FireChans Posted March 29, 2022 Posted March 29, 2022 As we continue to bear the doldrums of NFL FA, I thought this would be a fun little debate. QB’s eliminated because their trade value is STAGGERINGLY high. So, topic title. What player currently in the NFL, currently under their existing contract, would go for the most in a “we are shopping X” type bidding war? I think there may be one clear answer. And my pick is Justin Jefferson. Superstar? Check. Affordable contract for 3 years? Check. Young with potential? Check. I’m sure the AD’s of the world will get tossed around, but he’s older and with a big fat contract. I think JJ is potentially in the most valuable NFL player currently. Quote
Buffalo716 Posted March 29, 2022 Posted March 29, 2022 Probably Myles Garrett or TJ Watt Maybe a bosa 1 Quote
TheBrownBear Posted March 29, 2022 Posted March 29, 2022 If you want to go with that reasoning, Jamarr Chase is just as good as JJ and has an additional year on his rookie contract. 8 2 Quote
FireChans Posted March 29, 2022 Author Posted March 29, 2022 1 minute ago, TheBrownBear said: If you want to go with that reasoning, Jamarr Chase is just as good as JJ and has an additional year on his rookie contract. Jamarr has 1 year body of work with the much better QB. But I get your point. 1 Quote
Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD Posted March 29, 2022 Posted March 29, 2022 (edited) I would say Micah Parsons. DROY 13 Sacks Still 3 years on his rookie deal Cap hit under $4 Million Edited March 29, 2022 by Allen2Diggs 3 3 1 Quote
Patrick Duffy Posted March 29, 2022 Posted March 29, 2022 Defense I'd guess TJ Watt and Bosa... Offense off top of my head I'd guess maybe AJ Brown... 1 Quote
msw2112 Posted March 29, 2022 Posted March 29, 2022 At first, I was thinking that the question was simply "who is the most valuable non-QB" in the league, thus commanding the most in a trade. I would go with Aaron Donald. Factoring in the value of contracts, the benefits of a rookie deal with years remaining, I'd agree with the post that says Michah Parsons. 1 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted March 29, 2022 Posted March 29, 2022 16 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said: If you want to go with that reasoning, Jamarr Chase is just as good as JJ and has an additional year on his rookie contract. he hasn't done it twice yet.. Quote
TheBrownBear Posted March 29, 2022 Posted March 29, 2022 22 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: he hasn't done it twice yet.. He's a better prospect. Started over JJ in college (#1 vs. #2). 5th pick of the draft (vs. 22nd for JJ). 13 TDs as a rookie (JJ had 7 and 10 respectively in his two seasons). 18.0 ypc. Elevated his offense/team to playoffs and SB in first season. Extra year on his cheap rookie deal. And I don't see him backsliding. If anything, I expect him to put up MONSTER numbers next year. No brainer for me. 1 1 Quote
FireChans Posted March 29, 2022 Author Posted March 29, 2022 11 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said: He's a better prospect. Started over JJ in college (#1 vs. #2). 5th pick of the draft (vs. 22nd for JJ). 13 TDs as a rookie (JJ had 7 and 10 respectively in his two seasons). 18.0 ypc. Elevated his offense/team to playoffs and SB in first season. Extra year on his cheap rookie deal. And I don't see him backsliding. If anything, I expect him to put up MONSTER numbers next year. No brainer for me. Kirk Cousins vs Joe Burrow? 1 Quote
BruceVilanch Posted March 29, 2022 Posted March 29, 2022 I think Rashawn Slater would fetch a hefty price. and I think Jamaar Chase and Justin Jefferson would both be up there. Quote
Patrick Duffy Posted March 30, 2022 Posted March 30, 2022 17 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: TJ Watt and isn't even close. Don't know about "not even close". Aaron Donald should be close, Bosa too for that matter 2 1 Quote
4merper4mer Posted March 30, 2022 Posted March 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said: Probably Myles Garrett or TJ Watt Maybe a bosa Too many $$$$$ to offset the trade value. Someone on a rookie contract. Chase Young maybe. 2 Quote
BullBuchanan Posted March 30, 2022 Posted March 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said: Don't know about "not even close". Aaron Donald should be close, Bosa too for that matter Aaron Donald just decided not to retire. Whatever you pay for him, you have to assume it's for 1 year. TJ Watt is in his prime. 1 Quote
Buffalo716 Posted March 30, 2022 Posted March 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: Too many $$$$$ to offset the trade value. Someone on a rookie contract. Chase Young maybe. Young has supremely underplayed 3 1 Quote
Orlando Buffalo Posted March 30, 2022 Posted March 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Allen2Diggs said: I would say Micah Parsons. DROY 13 Sacks Still 3 years on his rookie deal Cap hit under $4 Million This is a hell of an argument and right now I can't beat it. 1 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted March 30, 2022 Posted March 30, 2022 36 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said: He's a better prospect. Started over JJ in college (#1 vs. #2). 5th pick of the draft (vs. 22nd for JJ). 13 TDs as a rookie (JJ had 7 and 10 respectively in his two seasons). 18.0 ypc. Elevated his offense/team to playoffs and SB in first season. Extra year on his cheap rookie deal. And I don't see him backsliding. If anything, I expect him to put up MONSTER numbers next year. No brainer for me. See below. No one cares who started over who in college (OSU started JT Barrett and Dwayne Haskins Joey Balls) or where they were drafted (not sure what point you're making there). JJ averaging 1500+ for first 2 years. No player in history has done that. Chase put up monster numbers this past season by any measure. Not sure what you would consider "monster" for nest year. Obviously neither is a poor choice... 24 minutes ago, FireChans said: Kirk Cousins vs Joe Burrow? Quote
4merper4mer Posted March 30, 2022 Posted March 30, 2022 13 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Young has supremely underplayed The point was really just to say that a young player at a premium position could/should fetch more than an older established high $ player in trade return. Young just came to mind. I think QB>DE>WR>LT>CB>all else in trade return. QB is off the table in this thread so I picked a young DE literally and figuratively. FWIW I don’t think a strong rookie year and an injury in year 2 qualifies as supremely underplaying and personally I think teams would cough up a lot for Young but that point is secondary. Nick Bosa if you prefer. Quote
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