K D Posted March 29, 2022 Posted March 29, 2022 11 hours ago, vanhalen26 said: And PSL seat fees will probably pay the owner share. Hopefully they kick in. This asset (owning the team) is appreciating by billions for them. They are billionaires, they don't have to do anything. They can invest their money and float around on their yacht and never work a day in their life. The fact that they choose to work so hard for our community and have created thousands of jobs between all of their companies in the process is so admirable it's almost unfathomable. Nobody should ever talk poorly about the Pegula's for all they have done for Buffalo. If they weren't making money on the Bills they would probably be making much more with less work elsewhere and then we wouldn't have a team. Because of them we will never have to worry about that again 5 1 1 1 3
Doc Brown Posted March 29, 2022 Posted March 29, 2022 Perfect amount of seats and the right location. They got two out of three right and that's not bad. 2
Chandler#81 Posted March 29, 2022 Posted March 29, 2022 12 hours ago, oldmanfan said: Fantastic news for WNY and all Bills fans! I was 4 years old at the first ever game in the Rockpile, made it to my seat in 1973 for the first ever game at Rich Stadium just before kickoff (which off course Mul-Key returns for a TD), and will God willing be there for the first ever game in the new stadium. My grandchildren (if I have any) will be able to maintain the tradition of being Bills fans going to the games in Buffalo!! Yep, I was thinking that after the 30 year lease is up, I’ll be 101 y/o when the next one opens. or not.. 1
buffblue Posted March 29, 2022 Posted March 29, 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, BillsFan692 said: Basically will be they wont break ground until summer next year Salary cap is 200 million per year and NYS has a 10% salary tax right? Someone do math on 20x30(years) its almost the entire public funding and thats not counting non player personell and tons of other things like sales tax on sales etc. These are rough numbers, but let's try anyways... Ny state outlay = 650 million Lease term = 30 years Eligible taxpayers in NY as of today = 14 million Tax burden for each NY resident = approximately 2 dollars extra per year per taxpayer Boy, let me grab my pitchforks to fight...nothing??? Edited March 29, 2022 by buffblue 2
Gugny Posted March 29, 2022 Posted March 29, 2022 8 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: Yep, I was thinking that after the 30 year lease is up, I’ll be 101 y/o when the next one opens. or not.. I'll be 51. 1
buffblue Posted March 29, 2022 Posted March 29, 2022 17 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: Yep, I was thinking that after the 30 year lease is up, I’ll be 101 y/o when the next one opens. or not.. How good was Bobby Chandler in Buffalo anyway? I'm 41 and don't have much to draw on for receiver pre Andre Reed...
The Wiz Posted March 29, 2022 Posted March 29, 2022 9 hours ago, billsfanmiamioh said: Anything that pisses Schopp off is good in my book! Im shocked he didn't spend two hours on his parlays in his addicted gambler fashion. 1
ExWNYer Posted March 29, 2022 Posted March 29, 2022 25 minutes ago, Gugny said: I'll be 51. Is that in dog years? 3
Chandler#81 Posted March 29, 2022 Posted March 29, 2022 (edited) 28 minutes ago, buffblue said: How good was Bobby Chandler in Buffalo anyway? I'm 41 and don't have much to draw on for receiver pre Andre Reed... Where do I begin? Precision route runner (ala Beasley) Glue fingertips (ala Diggs) Toe-taping extraordinaire (ala Baryshnikov) Outstanding blocker (ala Robert Woods) Perfect PK holder (ala Frank Reich) Ever reliable, regardless of injury (ala no one else) Every smallish kid in WNY was “BOBBY CHANDLER!” when playing football in the neighborhood (ala me) oh, and he’s a Slut! (ala @Gugny) Edited March 29, 2022 by Chandler#81 3 5 1 1
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted March 29, 2022 Posted March 29, 2022 45 minutes ago, buffblue said: These are rough numbers, but let's try anyways... Ny state outlay = 650 million Lease term = 30 years Eligible taxpayers in NY as of today = 14 million Approximate tax burden for each NY resident = approximately 2 dollars extra per year per taxpayer Boy, let me grab my pitchforks to fight...nothing??? what is this I just heard about they can leave in 15 years if they pay for the demolition?
haroldwaide Posted March 29, 2022 Posted March 29, 2022 11 minutes ago, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said: what is this I just heard about they can leave in 15 years if they pay for the demolition? After 15 years in the new stadium, the amount the team would have to pay back to NYS and Erie County will start to decline. If they move at any time during the lease they will ALSO have to pay to demolish the stadium. All this, plus the NFL relocation fees means they ain't moving.
nucci Posted March 29, 2022 Posted March 29, 2022 4 hours ago, buffblue said: How good was Bobby Chandler in Buffalo anyway? I'm 41 and don't have much to draw on for receiver pre Andre Reed... he was great 1
njbuff Posted March 29, 2022 Posted March 29, 2022 So, it takes 30 years to build a stadium in WNY? 😁😁
Beast Posted March 29, 2022 Posted March 29, 2022 I just hope the stadium has a little character if it’s an outdoor facility. Three evenly spaced decks wrapped around the playing field is not what I am hoping for.
haroldwaide Posted March 29, 2022 Posted March 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, Beast said: I just hope the stadium has a little character if it’s an outdoor facility. Three evenly spaced decks wrapped around the playing field is not what I am hoping for. I agree. Make the outside look like a chicken wing and have the hole in the roof look like a charging buffalo.
mannc Posted March 29, 2022 Posted March 29, 2022 Apparently it will be a natural grass playing surface…It’s often suggested that natural grass surfaces are safer for the players, but are there statistical studies that back that up? I know the old “Astro turf” was terrible, but I’d thought modern artificial turf was as safe as the real stuff….
Mr. WEO Posted March 29, 2022 Posted March 29, 2022 10 hours ago, Captain Caveman said: PSLs will probably net somewhere between 50-100 million. It's not nothing, but it's not covering the Pegulas share. The 200$ million from the NFL is also a loan that the Pegulas need to pay back (I think I read it's supposed to come from away team ticket sales over the length of the deal.) With all that said, I still very much wish ownership paid a bigger share and that NYS / Erie County (and taxpayers) paid less. Yes, so that would be the other owners, not Pegula, paying the G4 back. 10 hours ago, BillsFan692 said: Basically will be they wont break ground until summer next year Salary cap is 200 million per year and NYS has a 10% salary tax right? Someone do math on 20x30(years) its almost the entire public funding and thats not counting non player personell and tons of other things like sales tax on sales etc. Players salary taxes are not new revenue for the state, yet this is a new expense for the state.. That money already goes into the general fund of the State. You can't now say.. "oh it pays for itself". That money is already spent on other things.
Dopey Posted March 29, 2022 Posted March 29, 2022 21 hours ago, CountDorkula said: What does "Built For Buffalo" mean? Drunk Bills fan can continue to puke inside and the stench will still rise. Plus the rain will wash it away.
GolfandBills Posted March 29, 2022 Posted March 29, 2022 7 hours ago, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said: what is this I just heard about they can leave in 15 years if they pay for the demolition? You should make this a thread so everyone freaks out over nothing 3
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