Shake_My_Head Posted March 28, 2022 Posted March 28, 2022 1 hour ago, wiseman3 said: I'd bet that the final product will be pretty similar to this...Tottenham Hotspur Stadium. If so, very cool. https://www.google.com/maps/uv?pb=!1s0x48761e98d5d88ec3%3A0x572dd66a0e5f79bf!3m1!7e115!4shttps%3A%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipNj8KM-383dULHHYrmwsRWluBukt_EPeWQLbijV%3Dw213-h160-k-no!5sTottenham Hotspur Stadium - Google Search!15sCgIgAQ&imagekey=!1e10!2sAF1QipNj8KM-383dULHHYrmwsRWluBukt_EPeWQLbijV&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjB2pn-0en2AhUNU98KHQ7WBgkQoip6BAg5EAM
chaccof Posted March 28, 2022 Posted March 28, 2022 5 hours ago, jletha said: Gee, it sure looks a lot like the old stadium....guess $1.4B doesn't buy much these days.....
TheBrownBear Posted March 28, 2022 Posted March 28, 2022 Is this the greatest offseason in franchise history? (Offseason only - forgetting what immediately preceded it, of course)
That's No Moon Posted March 28, 2022 Posted March 28, 2022 4 hours ago, John Adams said: With, I expect, Buffalo touches, whatever that will mean and I bet it means something. the concession stand and merch shop will accept Green Stamps. 1
DrDawkinstein Posted March 28, 2022 Posted March 28, 2022 I havent gone through the entire thread to see if someone did the math, but in case no one has... The Cost for Erie County residents to keep the Bills in Buffalo: $250,000,000 / roughly 650,000 tax payers = $384.62 each Over 30 years, that is $12.82/year/taxpayer to keep the Bills and lock them in. I'd happily pay it. 5 1
Huh? What? Posted March 28, 2022 Posted March 28, 2022 I made a bad comment back in January and was rightly reminded and spanked because of the comment I made... This seems to be a fair deal for all... Lost in the conversation was I thought besides new stadium monies...upgrades at Key Bank Center would part of the overall package...
freddyjj Posted March 28, 2022 Posted March 28, 2022 2 hours ago, PrimeTime101 said: took that long cause it was a domed stadium does not matter if its above ground or not.. your still building from the ground up. Lol - It does matter. Easier to do concrete forms in an excavation versus building steel frame and having to do steel superstructure then forms for seating etc. 1
Shake_My_Head Posted March 28, 2022 Posted March 28, 2022 8 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: I havent gone through the entire thread to see if someone did the math, but in case no one has... The Cost for Erie County residents to keep the Bills in Buffalo: $250,000,000 / roughly 650,000 tax payers = $384.62 each Over 30 years, that is $12.82/year/taxpayer to keep the Bills and lock them in. I'd happily pay it. Not the way to look at it. Erie County's portion will be repaid entirely by stadium-related ticket, parking and related taxes. That is, only the fans who go to the games will pay those taxes. https://www2.erie.gov/exec/index.php?q=press/poloncarz-details-erie-county-investment-new-buffalo-bills-agreement
DrDawkinstein Posted March 28, 2022 Posted March 28, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, Shake_My_Head said: Not the way to look at it. Erie County's portion will be repaid entirely by stadium-related ticket, parking and related taxes. That is, only the fans who go to the games will pay those taxes. https://www2.erie.gov/exec/index.php?q=press/poloncarz-details-erie-county-investment-new-buffalo-bills-agreement Even better. My point then is, even worst case, folks are only paying >$13/year. Or just over $1/month. A trivial pittance when it means being able to keep our beloved team. I'm just offering other perspectives because so many people online are overreacting to that "$850M" quoted number. And they feel like it's going to put them in the poor house. When in reality, folks wont even notice. Edited March 28, 2022 by DrDawkinstein 1
BillsfaninSB Posted March 28, 2022 Posted March 28, 2022 24 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: the concession stand and merch shop will accept Green Stamps. Preferred parking for anyone driving a 1988 Buick Regal.
Stads Posted March 28, 2022 Posted March 28, 2022 1 hour ago, TheFunPolice said: I've been searching for audio from when he went nuts about all the public money spent downstate on the Nets, Mets, Islanders, Yankees, and Rangers/Knicks deals. How could any Bills fan be unhappy? Your taxes paid aren't going to change either way. We just get to keep our team here. We pay for tons of things that we don't even know/care about. He's not a fan unless there is a fantasy angle he can exploit 1
GolfandBills Posted March 28, 2022 Posted March 28, 2022 4 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: Lucas Oil cost $720M. How can they spend $1.4B and not have a domed stadium that can be used year round? This is a horrible deal for taxpayers. Inflation and that was quite a while ago
Shake_My_Head Posted March 28, 2022 Posted March 28, 2022 14 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: When in reality, folks wont even notice. That's not a heavy lift. The majorty of the population is lucky if they can chew gum and walk at the same time.
boater Posted March 28, 2022 Posted March 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Shake_My_Head said: If so, very cool. https://www.google.com/maps/uv?pb=!1s0x48761e98d5d88ec3%3A0x572dd66a0e5f79bf!3m1!7e115!4shttps%3A%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipNj8KM-383dULHHYrmwsRWluBukt_EPeWQLbijV%3Dw213-h160-k-no!5sTottenham Hotspur Stadium - Google Search!15sCgIgAQ&imagekey=!1e10!2sAF1QipNj8KM-383dULHHYrmwsRWluBukt_EPeWQLbijV&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjB2pn-0en2AhUNU98KHQ7WBgkQoip6BAg5EAM OK. Very cool. ONLY.. if that's an NFL dimensioned infield. If they build Highmark 2 with a soccer dimensioned infield, count me out.
Huh? What? Posted March 28, 2022 Posted March 28, 2022 Here's the meta question for all you Jetsons'... come 2056... which one of you are going to genetically engineer a kid who is willing to spend $1.4 trillion to buy and keep the Bills in Buffalo... taking into consideration that Spacely Sprockets which use to own the air rights in OP was obtained by robotic Jerry Jones and his wife Rosie... forward thinking... just saying... 5
Mr. WEO Posted March 28, 2022 Posted March 28, 2022 2 hours ago, BillsfaninSB said: Construction costs are outrageous now. Can’t go by a raw cost. Needs to go by a some ratio. Should have done this 6 or 7 years ago. Would have saved hundreds of millions. Well if you want to go by "ratio", it's an even worse deal for the NY taxpayers. The second most expensive public deal was the LV Raiders just opened stadium, where the public kicked in 750 and the Raiders put up 1.1 BILLION.
BuffaloButt Posted March 28, 2022 Posted March 28, 2022 6 hours ago, jletha said: Too bad it's not a dome!!☹
TheFunPolice Posted March 28, 2022 Posted March 28, 2022 (edited) $850 million is a lot of money, but NY State would be like the 10th largest economy in the world if it were its own country. Edited March 28, 2022 by TheFunPolice
sonyab1974 Posted March 28, 2022 Posted March 28, 2022 I’m in shock! This is awesome!!! This is very ironic because people here said that they would never get one and to stop talking about it! Some people got upset. Well it’s happening!!! 😁
SoCal Deek Posted March 28, 2022 Posted March 28, 2022 Just now, sonyab1974 said: I’m in shock! This is awesome!!! This is very ironic because people here said that they would never get one and to stop talking about it! Some people got upset. Well it’s happening!!! 😁 So you're saying we can get back to the re-sign Edmunds debate? Sweet! Any thoughts there? 1
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