BillStime Posted May 4, 2023 Author Posted May 4, 2023 1 minute ago, JaCrispy said: I’m sure American patriot @BillStime won’t like the sound of this…He certainly does not support the radical Marxists trying to tear down our American institutions…👍 Oh, lmao - MAGA nutter defending corruption - same freaks who told us Trump would drain the swamp - pure gold. 1
B-Man Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 Just now, ChiGoose said: Liberals: SCOTUS needs a code of ethics Clickservatives: Sotomayor had shady dealings! Liberals: Yes, that’s why SCOTUS needs a code of ethics Clickservatives: This is an attack on the court! ChiGoose : I will ignore the multiple attacks on conservative justices to try (and fail) to deflect from what is happening. 😂 Coordinated effort. All you need to know. .
ChiGoose Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 8 minutes ago, B-Man said: ChiGoose : I will ignore the multiple attacks on conservative justices to try (and fail) to deflect from what is happening. 😂 Coordinated effort. All you need to know. . I oppose people physically attacking justices. It’s bad and shouldn’t happen. Now that that’s out of the way, Thomas had legal custody of the kid from a very young age and raised him as his own. The fact that it’s not reportable for someone to then pay tens of thousands of dollars for the tuition of someone being raised by a Supreme Court Justice is why we need a real code of ethics. I’m not saying Thomas has to resign, and it’d be dumb to try to impeach him. But you have to either be pro-corruption or just totally partisan to think that this isn’t a problem at least worth looking into. Even if only to establish better rules moving forward and not punish any actions in the past. As to the “coordinated effort,” it’s kinda of big news that there are hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of goods and services being funneled to Supreme Court justices behind the scenes. Once ProPublica broke the original story, every outlet was going to try to find more. It’d be incredibly stupid and journalistic malpractice not to.
Kemp Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 Can you imagine the reaction from the Republicans and the Trumpers here if it came out that Soros was buying houses for Kagan? They would be pushing each other out of the way to get to the microphones to condemn Kagan. Crickets for Thomas.
Doc Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, Kemp said: Can you imagine the reaction from the Republicans and the Trumpers here if it came out that Soros was buying houses for Kagan? They would be pushing each other out of the way to get to the microphones to condemn Kagan. Crickets for Thomas. I'm not surprised that anyone in government is getting paid by someone. Hell our legislative branch literally gets money to sway their vote. Should it happen? Of course not.
B-Man Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 4 hours ago, ChiGoose said: Liberals: SCOTUS needs a code of ethics OOPS ! Senator Smith gives the game away. Here’s a recap of the Left’s coordinated assault on judicial independence and the rule of law since they lost control of the Supreme Court: Senator Schumer threatened Justices Kavanaugh and Gorsuch by name on the steps of the Supreme Court and said they “will pay the price.” The Left’s ramped up threats to pack the Court with left-wing politicians in robes who will rule the way they want. Liberal dark money groups successfully bullied Justice Breyer into retirement. The draft Dobbs opinion was leaked, which resulted in illegal months-long protests outside the justices’ private homes that led to an attempted assassination of Justice Kavanaugh. The justices' addresses were doxxed and posted online. There’s been a coordinated campaign to try and delegitimize the institution because rulings didn’t go the way the Left wanted. Democrat members of Congress have called to defy and ignore court orders. Every conservative justice has been smeared with sham ethics violations to try and force recusals in order to affect the outcome of cases. Now Senate Democrats are threatening to withhold crucial security funding to force the Supreme Court into implementing a code of ethics that will be used as a weapon to attack and intimidate the originalist majority. These gross and dangerous attacks will not stop as long as the Left doesn’t have total control of the Supreme Court. https://twitter.com/JCNSeverino/status/1654139827028197383
Kemp Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Doc said: I'm not surprised that anyone in government is getting paid by someone. Hell our legislative branch literally gets money to sway their vote. Should it happen? Of course not. Lobbyists paying members of Congress to do things is bad. Until now, it was assumed the Supreme Court was above this. Back to my point. What would the reaction of Trump supporters and Republicans be if Kagan was being fiscally supported by Soros? Hell, they lost their bowels about Bragg being a a small part of a small donation by Soros. Were you troubled by that?
ChiGoose Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 1 hour ago, B-Man said: OOPS ! Senator Smith gives the game away. Here’s a recap of the Left’s coordinated assault on judicial independence and the rule of law since they lost control of the Supreme Court: Senator Schumer threatened Justices Kavanaugh and Gorsuch by name on the steps of the Supreme Court and said they “will pay the price.” The Left’s ramped up threats to pack the Court with left-wing politicians in robes who will rule the way they want. Liberal dark money groups successfully bullied Justice Breyer into retirement. The draft Dobbs opinion was leaked, which resulted in illegal months-long protests outside the justices’ private homes that led to an attempted assassination of Justice Kavanaugh. The justices' addresses were doxxed and posted online. There’s been a coordinated campaign to try and delegitimize the institution because rulings didn’t go the way the Left wanted. Democrat members of Congress have called to defy and ignore court orders. Every conservative justice has been smeared with sham ethics violations to try and force recusals in order to affect the outcome of cases. Now Senate Democrats are threatening to withhold crucial security funding to force the Supreme Court into implementing a code of ethics that will be used as a weapon to attack and intimidate the originalist majority. These gross and dangerous attacks will not stop as long as the Left doesn’t have total control of the Supreme Court. https://twitter.com/JCNSeverino/status/1654139827028197383 So you don’t think the Supreme Court needs a better ethics code? If George Soros or any other leftie boogeyman started secretly funneling hundreds of thousands of dollars to the liberal justices, you would be ok with that?
B-Man Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 The usual PPP suspects whine and spin their 'takes' on Justice Thomas, then howl in protest when the left's organized assault on the Supreme Court is documented. No matter, their complaints will get them nowhere, despite their spittle-ridden posts. This story is another attempt to manufacture a scandal about Justice Thomas. But let’s be clear about what is supposedly scandalous now: Justice Thomas and his wife devoted twelve years of their lives to taking in and caring for a beloved child—who was not their own—just as Justice Thomas’s grandparents had done for him. They made many personal and financial sacrifices to do this. And along the way, their friends joined them in doing everything possible to give this child a future. Harlan Crow’s tuition payments made directly to these schools on behalf of Justice Thomas’s great nephew did not constitute a reportable gift. Justice Thomas was not required to disclose the tuition payments made directly to Randolph Macon and the Georgia school on behalf of his great nephew because the definition of a “dependent child” under the Ethics in Government Act (5 U.S.C. 13101 (2)) does not include a “great nephew.” It is limited to a “son, daughter, stepson or stepdaughter.” Justice Thomas never asked Harlan Crow to pay for his great nephew’s tuition. And neither Harlan Crow, nor his company, had any business before the Supreme Court. This malicious story shows nothing except for the fact that the Thomases and the Crows are kind, generous, and loving people who tried to help this young man. https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2023/05/in-defense-of-justice-thomas.php https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2023/05/in-defense-of-justice-thomas.php
BillStime Posted May 4, 2023 Author Posted May 4, 2023 21 minutes ago, B-Man said: This story is another attempt to manufacture a scandal about Justice Thomas. Oh. Ok ”manufactured”
Doc Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 25 minutes ago, Kemp said: Lobbyists paying members of Congress to do things is bad. Until now, it was assumed the Supreme Court was above this. Back to my point. What would the reaction of Trump supporters and Republicans be if Kagan was being fiscally supported by Soros? Hell, they lost their bowels about Bragg being a a small part of a small donation by Soros. Were you troubled by that? What about Sotomayor and Penguin Random House? 1
ChiGoose Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 Just now, Doc said: What about Sotomayor and Penguin Random House? Should be investigated too! If justices are able to take in serious cash without disclosure, then the rules need to be rewritten. Even if taking in that kind of money is ok under the rules now, doesn’t mean that’s how it should be. For example: I don’t think there is any problem with Gorsuch selling his home to a lawyer. He’s a rich lawyer and needs to sell his house to move to DC so another rich lawyer buys it. The timing is a bit sketchy but that doesn’t necessarily make it wrong or problematic, so long as the public knows who bought it. By hiding the ultimate purchaser, he denies the American public an opportunity to evaluate his fairness and raises the specter of untoward influence. Some of the things that Thomas did weren’t against the rules but they sure as hell look shady and probably should be (ask Allen Weisselberg about having other people pay for tuition and other expenses for you). For the public to have trust in our institutions, these kinds of financial relationships need to be public.
Kemp Posted May 5, 2023 Posted May 5, 2023 31 minutes ago, Doc said: What about Sotomayor and Penguin Random House? After reading what you're talking about I see that Sotomayor was paid for writing books. What service did Thomas provide to receive houses and trips and tuition? You understand the difference. You just can't face it. It must be tough to live a series of lies. The hits just keep on coming. https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2023/05/04/leonard-leo-clarence-ginni-thomas-conway/
Doc Posted May 5, 2023 Posted May 5, 2023 Just now, Kemp said: After reading what you're talking about I see that Sotomayor was paid for writing books. What service did Thomas provide to receive houses and trips and tuition? You understand the difference. You just can't face it. It must be tough to live a series of lies. It was more than just being paid to write books. What service did Thomas provide? Continuing to be a conservative judge?
Kemp Posted May 5, 2023 Posted May 5, 2023 Just now, Doc said: It was more than just being paid to write books. What service did Thomas provide? Continuing to be a conservative judge? I didn't think you'd admit that Thomas's votes were being bought by a donor.
Doc Posted May 5, 2023 Posted May 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, Kemp said: I didn't think you'd admit that Thomas's votes were being bought by a donor. Again, he, a conservative judge, was having his conservative votes bought by a conservative donor? Is that what you're going with?
ChiGoose Posted May 5, 2023 Posted May 5, 2023 20 minutes ago, Doc said: Again, he, a conservative judge, was having his conservative votes bought by a conservative donor? Is that what you're going with? Probably not, but it looks bad. To the American public, it looks like the billionaire elites can buy a Supreme Court Justice. Is that something not worth at least looking into?
BillStime Posted May 5, 2023 Author Posted May 5, 2023 43 minutes ago, Kemp said: After reading what you're talking about I see that Sotomayor was paid for writing books. What service did Thomas provide to receive houses and trips and tuition? You understand the difference. You just can't face it. It must be tough to live a series of lies. The hits just keep on coming. https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2023/05/04/leonard-leo-clarence-ginni-thomas-conway/ Both look bad Kemp - no exceptions. The Supreme Court needs a code of ethics. 1
Doc Posted May 5, 2023 Posted May 5, 2023 12 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: Probably not, but it looks bad. To the American public, it looks like the billionaire elites can buy a Supreme Court Justice. Is that something not worth at least looking into? Yes. 1
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