Joe Ferguson forever Posted April 8, 2023 Posted April 8, 2023 14 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: Lol…so some drivel in a lefty “ news” publication = “ most “ Republicans ? So laughable it’s not worth mentioning. Yeah, this wasn't a Rasmussen poll so you feel justified in disregarding it, right? 15 minutes ago, sherpa said: Your views do not prove anything, and I doubt anyone cares. If there is some evidence of inappropriate behavior or anything related to suggested bribery, so state. If not, shut up. Your views on the rich are meaningless. yeah, haven't seen much value in your posts either. insights that can be found from cat crap or whatever his name is - cat crap works well to stop goggles from fogging tho... shut up yo self...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted April 8, 2023 Posted April 8, 2023 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: It’s good to have wealthy friends. 500k to them is like a couple of nice high end dinners out for most. ya know, I get really confused with the far right's stance on elites. I thought you all hated them. I guess it depends on which side they are on. hmmm? Edited April 8, 2023 by redtail hawk
The Frankish Reich Posted April 8, 2023 Posted April 8, 2023 For those who watch Succession (recommended!): "wealthy benefactor" Harlan Crow = Conor Roy.
Joe Ferguson forever Posted April 8, 2023 Posted April 8, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: For those who watch Succession (recommended!): "wealthy benefactor" Harlan Crow = Conor Roy. wasn't all that interested in the backstory. Just seemed like good old fashioned corruption. but this is kinda fun, especially your alleged link to a TV series about the Murdochs https://nypost.com/2023/04/07/who-is-harlan-crow-the-billionaire-giving-free-trips-to-clarence-thomas/ "Crow also owns a private resort in the Adirondacks called Camp Topridge, the former summer retreat of cereal heiress Marjorie Merriweather Post — who also commissioned the construction of former President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort." Isn't it quaint how the elite refer to their Adirondack mansions as "camps"? Edited April 8, 2023 by redtail hawk
Kemp Posted April 8, 2023 Posted April 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Boatdrinks said: Nope. However, this type of thing is common in Washington and isn’t going away anytime soon. Who is more dangerous ? Someone who sees something great and wants to preserve it as is ? Or someone who looks at something great and wants to tear it apart, “ re imagine it “ or fundamentally change it from its original state because they think they “ know better “ than its creators ? Democrats do , but we’ve known that. Some of them view themselves as legislators and that’s unfortunate. Seems like Thomas is the only Supreme Court Justice who has done this. Your way of rationalizing it is to say they all do it and that Democrats are somehow the guilty parties. It's cult thinking and that's the only thing you folks can ever do. Twist everything to create a narrative. You are no different than a follower of Jim Jones. 1 1
ChiGoose Posted April 8, 2023 Posted April 8, 2023 This was a clear test of partisanship. Thomas absolutely violated the law, which requires all comped transportation to be disclosed. And even if there is debate as to the lodging and food, it’s clearly an ethical gray area that any rational person would have disclosed just to avoid even the appearance of impropriety. All people here had to say was “Yes, he should have disclosed the trips” but apparently some people can’t even do that. He’s on their side, so they need to reflexively defend him even when he’s clearly in the wrong. He’s free to have wealthy friends and go on lavish trips. He just has to disclose them. This would be a good time to explore better ethics provisions for all SCOTUS justices but I would wager it just continues downwards towards partisan bickering instead. 2
Joe Ferguson forever Posted April 8, 2023 Posted April 8, 2023 1 minute ago, ChiGoose said: This was a clear test of partisanship. Thomas absolutely violated the law, which requires all comped transportation to be disclosed. And even if there is debate as to the lodging and food, it’s clearly an ethical gray area that any rational person would have disclosed just to avoid even the appearance of impropriety. All people here had to say was “Yes, he should have disclosed the trips” but apparently some people can’t even do that. He’s on their side, so they need to reflexively defend him even when he’s clearly in the wrong. He’s free to have wealthy friends and go on lavish trips. He just has to disclose them. This would be a good time to explore better ethics provisions for all SCOTUS justices but I would wager it just continues downwards towards partisan bickering instead. excellent points. I just had a deja Vu , really. Can't remember the exact incident but I've been here before.
ChiGoose Posted April 8, 2023 Posted April 8, 2023 38 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: wasn't all that interested in the backstory. Just seemed like good old fashioned corruption. but this is kinda fun, especially your alleged link to a TV series about the Murdochs https://nypost.com/2023/04/07/who-is-harlan-crow-the-billionaire-giving-free-trips-to-clarence-thomas/ "Crow also owns a private resort in the Adirondacks called Camp Topridge, the former summer retreat of cereal heiress Marjorie Merriweather Post — who also commissioned the construction of former President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort." Isn't it quaint how the elite refer to their Adirondack mansions as "camps"? Used to go to Massawepie every summer, just an hour down the road from Crow’s place. It’s a beautiful area. Also, Succession is an excellent show.
Joe Ferguson forever Posted April 8, 2023 Posted April 8, 2023 Just now, ChiGoose said: Used to go to Massawepie every summer, just an hour down the road from Crow’s place. It’s a beautiful area. Also, Succession is an excellent show. I have never watched it. Can't stand the Murdochs. I have been to the Rockefeller "camp" in the Adirondacks tho. Caught trout, went snowmobiling, fooled around and didn't fall in love...
Boatdrinks Posted April 8, 2023 Posted April 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Kemp said: Seems like Thomas is the only Supreme Court Justice who has done this. Your way of rationalizing it is to say they all do it and that Democrats are somehow the guilty parties. It's cult thinking and that's the only thing you folks can ever do. Twist everything to create a narrative. You are no different than a follower of Jim Jones. 50 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: This was a clear test of partisanship. Thomas absolutely violated the law, which requires all comped transportation to be disclosed. And even if there is debate as to the lodging and food, it’s clearly an ethical gray area that any rational person would have disclosed just to avoid even the appearance of impropriety. All people here had to say was “Yes, he should have disclosed the trips” but apparently some people can’t even do that. He’s on their side, so they need to reflexively defend him even when he’s clearly in the wrong. He’s free to have wealthy friends and go on lavish trips. He just has to disclose them. This would be a good time to explore better ethics provisions for all SCOTUS justices but I would wager it just continues downwards towards partisan bickering instead. So if disclosed , your take on it then becomes that it was simply because Thomas is a “ swell guy” ? Of course , most of us on this board have strong partisan leanings. I’m not that concerned about “ appearances “ or feelz. We can generally predict where a Thomas or a Sotomayor is going to be on an issue without them disclosing where every gift came from. 1
The Frankish Reich Posted April 8, 2023 Posted April 8, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, redtail hawk said: wasn't all that interested in the backstory. Just seemed like good old fashioned corruption. but this is kinda fun, especially your alleged link to a TV series about the Murdochs https://nypost.com/2023/04/07/who-is-harlan-crow-the-billionaire-giving-free-trips-to-clarence-thomas/ "Crow also owns a private resort in the Adirondacks called Camp Topridge, the former summer retreat of cereal heiress Marjorie Merriweather Post — who also commissioned the construction of former President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort." Isn't it quaint how the elite refer to their Adirondack mansions as "camps"? Interesting that the "Murdochs" of Succession all jetted off to Lake Placid for one of those Men Who Rule the World meetings. You know the kind of meeting: Davos, Aspen Institute, all those things are resident Right Wing Conspiracy Theorists claim to despise. Not to mention the weirdly homoerotic men-only Bohemian Grove retreat Thomas, Crow, and various other billionaires have gone on. They used a Lake Placid setting as a stand-in for Aspen, but still - art imitating life imitating art. Edited April 8, 2023 by The Frankish Reich 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted April 8, 2023 Posted April 8, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Interesting that the "Murdochs" of Succession all jetted off to Lake Placid for one of those Men Who Rule the World meetings. You know the kind of meeting: Davos, Aspen Institute, all those things are resident Right Wing Conspiracy Theorists claim to despise. Not to mention the weirdly homoerotic men-only Bohemian Grove retreat Thomas, Crow, and various other billionaires have gone on. They used a Lake Placid setting as a stand-in for Aspen, but still - art imitating life imitating art. I briefly tasted that life. I think I'm much happier in a normal life. But my God, the wealth. It's staggering. And wrong. They had this enormous dinner table with each chair at different heights to indicate status. It must be exhausting. That said, we smoked a lot of weed back then☺️ Edited April 8, 2023 by redtail hawk
Boatdrinks Posted April 8, 2023 Posted April 8, 2023 1 minute ago, redtail hawk said: I briefly tasted that life. I think I'm much happier in a normal life. But my God, the wealth. It's staggering. And wrong. Wealth is wrong ?
Joe Ferguson forever Posted April 8, 2023 Posted April 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: Wealth is wrong ? people are talking about civil war...much of it has to do with economics. How much do you need? Not a political question, just a practical one.
Boatdrinks Posted April 8, 2023 Posted April 8, 2023 14 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: people are talking about civil war...much of it has to do with economics. How much do you need? Not a political question, just a practical one. You think talk of civil war has to do with economics? It seems more about social issues than economics. Now there is a lot of silly talk about socialism among the younger more indoctrinated set, but we know such things are doomed to failure. We are a capitalist nation and would do well to get our focus back to it. That’s one reason we need Trump and his policies back. The Dems policies are causing much economic misery. How much is enough ? That’s not for the government to decide. It’s up to the individual. 1
Orlando Buffalo Posted April 8, 2023 Posted April 8, 2023 41 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: You think talk of civil war has to do with economics? It seems more about social issues than economics. Now there is a lot of silly talk about socialism among the younger more indoctrinated set, but we know such things are doomed to failure. We are a capitalist nation and would do well to get our focus back to it. That’s one reason we need Trump and his policies back. The Dems policies are causing much economic misery. How much is enough ? That’s not for the government to decide. It’s up to the individual. Economics will never be what causes a civil war again in the US. It is simply to easy to become rich in this country, not Elon rich but a millionaire rich. 1 1
Orlando Buffalo Posted April 8, 2023 Posted April 8, 2023 41 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said: Economics will never be what causes a civil war again in the US. It is simply to easy to become rich in this country, not Elon rich but a millionaire rich. @redtail hawk you disagree? 1
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