Tyreek seeking a trade [Now: Traded to the Dolphins]

[TheBrownBear]

3 minutes ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said:

The AFC East 

 

Patriots Defense that gave up 300+ 5 TDs to the Bills

Bills Defnese that gave up 350+ 3 TD to Kansas City 

 

and on and on … why?  Did you think they could cover?

The Pats defense is slow and getting slower, so I'll give you that.  The Bills were torched in KC in the playoffs, but that's without Tre White and, again, it's KC and they do that to everyone when they are on.  

[RalphWilson'sNewWar]

2 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

The Bills and Patriots have been two of the top pass defenses for a few years now.

Uh huh.  🙄.

[MJS]

They'd be fine if CEH turned out to be an elite back. He is pretty average, so there's the sting.

 

But yeah, the Chiefs have not done a good job filling the pipeline behind Hill and Kelce. I don't blame it all on one draft pick of a RB.

[GoBills808]

Just now, RalphWilson'sNewWar said:

Uh huh.  🙄.

😂😂just stop

 

 

[Logic]

I think we're going to continue to own the Dolphins as much as the next guy.

I also think Hill will become an under-producing malcontent, and will not like the steep dropoff in targets, production, prestige, and prime time games.

I also think it's stupid to give up that much draft capital for AND spend that much on a WR when you're not sure if your QB is "the guy" yet.

I also think that between Waddle and Hill, the Phins have now spent three 1sts, two 2nds, two fourths, and a 6th, not to mention a mega-contract, on 2 WRs.

Despite me saying all of that...

I can't deny that the Dolphins got materially better today. They added a six time Pro Bowler, three time All-Pro. This just a day after adding a Pro Bowl LT.

Hill - Waddle - Wilson - Parker - Gesicki - Edmonds - Mostert - Gaskin, with an improved offensive line, is about as much as they could have done to set Tua up for success.

It all comes down to the QB now...

Edited March 23, 2022 by Logic

[Warcodered]

Just now, RalphWilson'sNewWar said:

Uh huh.  🙄.

Well feel free to just ignore that if it doesn't fit your narrative.

[appoo]

6 minutes ago, Allen2Diggs said:

It was already our #1 need. 

The Dolphins have a ridiculous wr group now:

Tyreek Hill 

Devante Parker 

Jaylen Waddle 

Will Fuller 

Gesicki at TE

As a football fan, I love it. As a Bills fan, I love that Mahomes isn’t the one throwing to these dudes. 
 

With Phins D being pretty good, if those guys get a leap out of Tua, Miami is absolutely going to compete with the Bills for the AFCE crown- especially now that they’ve got that stud tackle. 

[gobills404]

The answer is Tuanigamanuolepola Tagovailoa

[Tanoros]

6 minutes ago, Awwufelloff said:

That's the best in the league by far. Waddle is incredible, especially at end of year.

Cinci has a very nice wr room too. It’s hard to say if Miami has the best by far. 

[RalphWilson'sNewWar]

Just now, TheBrownBear said:

The Pats defense is slow and getting slower, so I'll give you that.  The Bills were torched in KC in the playoffs, but that's without Tre White and, again, it's KC and they do that to everyone when they are on.  

Bills defense comes up small when it’s any starting QB with their actual weapons.

 

one of the Achilles heels of the Fraizer/McDermott Defense.

 

as long as their opponent is rolling out their 4th string QB with all backups in the WR Core…Buffalo going to dominate.

 

other than that…ehhhhh

[billsfan1959]

6 minutes ago, FireChans said:

They beat us in an extremely close game. And they got worse this off-season so far.

 

who is writing them off? Maybe you forgot that in every Chiefs loss we have ever had, Tyreek has caught a 6 yard pass and taken it 50 yards.

 

What is the point of moping about this?

 

Who TF is moping about it? I merely said they are still going to be a pretty damn good team.

 

Of course, not as good as if they had picked up Matt Breida. He would have transformed that offense, amiright?

[Motor26]

4 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:

People are way under estimating the dolphins I think.  This is not good. 

Maybe you’re over estimating the Dolphins? Josh’s record against them is 7-1. He is to the Dolphins what Brady used to be to the Bills.

[Warcodered]

1 minute ago, Logic said:

I think we're going to continue to own the Dolphins as much as the next guy.

I also think Hill will become an under-producing malcontent, and will not like the steep dropoff in targets, production, prestige, and prime time games.

I also think it's stupid to give up that much draft capital for AND spend that much on a WR when you're not sure if your QB is "the guy" yet.

I also think that between Waddle and Hill, the Phins have now spent three 1sts, two 2nds, two fourths, and a 6th, not to mention a mega-contract, on 2 WRs.

Despite me saying all of that...

I can't deny that the Dolphins got materially better today. They added a six time Pro Bowler, three time All-Pro. This just a day after adding a Pro Bowl LT.

Hill - Waddle - Wilson - Parker - Gesicki - Edmonds - Mostert - Gaskin, with an improved offensive line, is about as much as they could have done to set Tua up for success.

It all comes down to the QB now...

So what your saying is the owner isn't going to pay them to lose this time around.

Just now, gobills404 said:

The answer is Tuanigamanuolepola Tagovailoa

Tua Turntheballover.

[RalphWilson'sNewWar]

1 minute ago, Warcodered said:

Well feel free to just ignore that if it doesn't fit your narrative.

No worries I properly addressed it in another post.

[FireChans]

1 minute ago, billsfan1959 said:

 

Who TF is moping about it? I merely said they are still going to be a pretty damn good team.

 

Of course, not as good as if they had picked up Matt Breida. He would have transformed that offense, amiright?

You are moping. It’s embarrassing. Pick yourself up and dust yourself off. We have an off-season to win and our biggest rival just lost their second best player and the most electric WR in football.

[Warcodered]

1 minute ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said:

Bills defense comes up small when it’s any starting QB with their actual weapons.

 

one of the Achilles heels of the Fraizer/McDermott Defense.

 

as long as their opponent is rolling out their 4th string QB with all backups in the WR Core…Buffalo going to dominate.

 

other than that…ehhhhh

Man I must of forgotten that Hill and Kelce were both in traction during week 5. You know the time we played them with our all pro CB last year.

[billsfan1959]

7 minutes ago, prissythecat said:

 

Will be interesting to see what happens this coming season with Tyreek gone.   Thats a ton of production out the door.   Juju is not in the same league.

 

Absolutely. I think they move up in the 1st round and try to find his "replacement." We'll see. This definitely hurts them.

[wjag]

16 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

Not a fan. Tua obviously isn’t great but Tyreek is and he doesn’t need to burn you deep to be a game changer.

 

Waddle was becoming a problem at the end of last season.  Didn't he set the rookie receiving record for passes caught?  Now add into Hill with Devante Parker, and Mike Gesecki and these guys will be a problem.

[Max Fischer]

I actually think KC made the right move.

 

The move will no doubt hurt them in the short run, as Hill is nearly impossible to replace. However, he's 28, relies entirely on speed and his next contract will be an albatross. The bevy of draft picks allow KC to find a decent replacement and likely a few more pieces on offense. Moreover, they free up much needed cap space. It's still a huge gamble for KC but I think it could pay dividends as early as this season. 

 

For Miami, they get an elite WR who will immediately make the Dolphins better. However, it's a very heavy price, especially when their QB might not have the tools to take full advantage of Hill's skills. The Dolphins have so many holes, it doesn't seem to make sense to sacrifice all their resources on a WR who may have already peaked. 

[Matt_In_NH]

Damn, KC got a pile of picks for a WR who will play for three years in Miami with TUA.