CircleTheWagons99 Posted March 23, 2022 Posted March 23, 2022 Now lets see how good Mahomes is without those 50+ yard dump offs to Hill 3 Quote
SCBills Posted March 23, 2022 Posted March 23, 2022 Just now, mannc said: I do think this increases the odds of the Bills drafting CB at 25… Remember when people were upset we didn't bring back Levi Wallace?..... Beane looking up and down at the 40 times of secondary dudes in the draft. Quote
JGMcD2 Posted March 23, 2022 Posted March 23, 2022 Reminder that the Dolphins haven’t beaten the Bills since Josh’s rookie year and McDermott is 9-1 against them. Josh Allen 7-1 63% completion 1980 yards 21 TD 5 INT 430 Rush 4 TD Call me when they find a QB that can match that. 1 1 Quote
Awwufelloff Posted March 23, 2022 Posted March 23, 2022 Just now, RobbRiddick said: LOL I just went there after posting this. First thread title I see: Patrick Mahomes will make any WR look good, herp derp! https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=343098 Those morons are nothing if not predictable Posters here literally say the same thing about Allen turning anyone into superstars. Are they wrong? Brady did it for 20 years. 1 Quote
Donuts and Doritos Posted March 23, 2022 Posted March 23, 2022 Corner just became a bigger priority 1 2 Quote
FireChans Posted March 23, 2022 Posted March 23, 2022 1 minute ago, billsfan1959 said: Maybe not, but they sure as hell can pick up a pretty damn good receiver. With Mahomes at QB and Reid calling the offense, I'm sure the team isn't goint to fall off a cliff... The Chiefs got worse today. This is good news. 3 1 1 1 Quote
Bangarang Posted March 23, 2022 Posted March 23, 2022 1 minute ago, SCBills said: Given it seems Jets/Dolphins were the only options, this seems to have worked out in the best case scenario for us. Chiefs lose the most explosive player in the NFL. Get back strong draft compensation, but the highest pick is 29. Dolphins give up draft capital, tie up 4 yr/120M of cap space and have the most explosive player in the league dependent upon noodle-arm Tua getting him the ball down the field. The Jets were the best case scenario and it wasn’t even close. Waddle and Hill are a dangerous duo and Hill doesn’t have to beat you deep to be a game changer. The Dolphins gave up significant draft capital but it’s mostly mid to late round picks and they still kept their two first rounders for next year. In the last two days the Dolphins offense just got a lot better. 1 Quote
YoloinOhio Posted March 23, 2022 Posted March 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: Damn! Now we face him 2X minimum per season. We already did. It was Mahomes/Hill 2x, now it’s Tua/Hill 2x 1 Quote
SCBills Posted March 23, 2022 Posted March 23, 2022 1 minute ago, beebe said: The Chiefs are undoubtedly worse right now, but they are extremely well positioned for the immediate future. Paying Tyreek as the highest paid WR in NFL history would have been a tough ask. He's 28, relies on superior speed, and has had heel issues in recent years. He's probably going to tear an achillies eventually, and then what? Getting back five draft picks to free up $20 million in cap space is a nice swap for them. They went into last year with a bottom 5 offensive line and revamped it completely—trading for Orlando Brown, signing Joe Thuney, and drafting what became the two best OL in the draft in C Creed Humphrey and G Trey Smith. It's now a top 5 OL in the NFL. They added JuJu at WR in an incentive-heavy deal. They still have Kelce. They still have Hardman. They think—perhaps wrongly—that Josh Gordon will get caught up to speed and be productive with a full offseason. They'll likely sign Marquez Reshard Valdes-Scantling and then draft another WR using one of their picks. KC's defense needs to add pieces. Frank Clark, Chris Jones and Melvin Ingram all return. But they need another pass rusher and added depth on the DL. As it stands, this is weak DL. LB's are solid with Nick Bolton and Willie Gay, who they invested early picks in the last few years. And secondary is a problem. These picks will let the Chiefs invest heavily in pass rush, DB and perhaps they can add another WR. If Hill returned at this price point, the Chiefs couldn't confidently fix their DL and secondary. If they can strike gold in this draft or next, this team is officially rebuilt in a major way. We all get why KC did this. The issue is, they had a once in a generation pairing in Hill/Kelce. The most explosive WR in the NFL and the most athletic, talented TE in the NFL, both in their prime. That won't be duplicated anytime soon, by anyone. 5 Quote
Warcodered Posted March 23, 2022 Posted March 23, 2022 Man Hill is going to be so wide open when he looks back and sees Tua on his back. 1 9 2 Quote
Jauronimo Posted March 23, 2022 Posted March 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, Awwufelloff said: Would you rather have Hill or Von Miller on the Bills? Premier pass rusher > premier wide receiver. The only consideration here is their respective ages. With the way the Bills are set up right now, I think Von is more important but Hill stretching the field is fun to think about until I remember how much of a POS I think he is. 1 Quote
TheBrownBear Posted March 23, 2022 Posted March 23, 2022 So, what are the Chiefs big needs right now? I assume they're looking for secondary help and another WR to replace Reek? Pretty similar to Buffalo's situation. I could see them packaging picks to grab one of the CBs or WRs or hope that a guy like Dotson falls to them since he could fit the Reek mold. Quote
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted March 23, 2022 Posted March 23, 2022 Mike McDaniel is salivating right now. Hill AND Waddle?! In a division that can’t cover?! oh boy! 1 Quote
machine gun kelly Posted March 23, 2022 Posted March 23, 2022 I see this as a huge positive as it pertains to the Bills. Tua is mediocre at best so you have to have a guy throw him the ball. It will make them better, but not better than the Bills. weakening the Chiefs is awesome. I don’t hate the Chiefs, but losing one of their two marquee targets is great. we’re definitely going corner at 25. Mahomes is a heck of a QB. Tua, meh. I love it. 1 2 Quote
Success Posted March 23, 2022 Posted March 23, 2022 Man, that is a LOT to give up for a receiver. Shades of the Herschel Walker trade. It helps the Chiefs in the long run, but without Hill, the Bills are now in pole position in the AFC this season. 1 Quote
buffaloboyinATL Posted March 23, 2022 Posted March 23, 2022 Damn, they gave KC more than I expected. Quote
Back2Buff Posted March 23, 2022 Posted March 23, 2022 Dude won't stay healthy in Miami. I think I would be shocked if he plays more than 8 games a year. Quote
njbuff Posted March 23, 2022 Posted March 23, 2022 All this trade does is make McDermott's seat kinda warm now because the Bills are the CLEAR CUT favorite to win the Lombardi now. Not much pressure, right?😁 Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 23, 2022 Posted March 23, 2022 1 minute ago, FireChans said: The Chiefs got worse today. This is good news. Not just worse they can’t replace Hill. There is no one like him. They can add a good player and get production but it’ll be different now. 3 Quote
whorlnut Posted March 23, 2022 Posted March 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: I'm sure they will package the picks they received from the Dolphins, move up into the 1st round and get Hill's replacement on a rookie contract... Right. And we will take a corner that won’t be able to cover him. Rinse. Repeat… 1 Quote
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