Bills sign Jamison Crowder

[Motorin']

1 minute ago, NewEra said:

yup.  Which is entirely possible if another team decides to pull some contract shenanigans 

 

I have faith in Beane being able to pull some double reverse shenanigans if necessary. 

[Warcodered]

1 minute ago, billsfan_34 said:

However you spell his name lol

TD Jesus.

[billsfan_34]

17 hours ago, Putin said:

Diggs , Davis , Crowder , McKenzie and a 1st round pick WR 

Not sure they would draft a WR in the first round. 

[NewEra]

11 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

At this time, and until he presents an offer sheet the Bills refuse to match, that would be Ryan "Rick" Bates.

At this time, we hope that it will be Ryan Bates.  

 

Any idea how many snaps he’s had @ RG in the nfl?

5 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

 

I have faith in Beane being able to pull some double reverse shenanigans if necessary. 

I hope so. 
 

ever see him play RG?  
 

I can’t help but be at least a little apprehensive about his move to RG.  Playing LG last year he was sandwiched between our two best OL. Now he’ll be playing next to a raw 2nd year guy who wasn’t very good in pass protection.  That stuff matters more than people think.  It’s not madden.  
 

does anyone know if Bates has played RG, if so, how many snaps?  
 

 

we can take this to the Bates thread so we don’t hijack.  

Edited March 22, 2022 by NewEra

[wjag]

53 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Good videos!  Thanks for posting. 

 

1. for a guy who ran a 4.56 40-yd, he looks to play a helluvalot faster than that - especially in the highlights from Washington

What's the scoop there, anyone know?  Or where's someone with "scout eyes" to look at the highlights?

 

 

I saw Josh answer this question about his speed.  Apparently he runs faster than what he was clocked at the combine.  When asked why, he said, and I paraphrase, "because I have guys chasing me..."

[gobills404]

8 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said:

Not sure they would draft a WR in the first round. 

There’s a good chance BPA is a WR and there’s no way you let Jamison Crowder on a 1 year deal stop you from taking that player

[Special K]

2 minutes ago, gobills404 said:

There’s a good chance BPA is a WR and there’s no way you let Jamison Crowder on a 1 year deal stop you from taking that player

 

I was hoping the Bills would draft Kyle Phillips as a Beasly replacement, but I guess the signing of Crowder would stop the Bills from drafting a "slot" receiver.....but no doubt the Bills should still draft a "speed" receiver.

[Warcodered]

On a positive note on him replacing Beasley, I don't think he even has a twitter account.

[BearNorth]

28 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

 

I have faith in Beane being able to pull some double reverse shenanigans if necessary. 

As I recall, what the Bills did with Clay was put contract language/numbers in the offer that made it impossible for Miami to match.  I believe once you put the RFA tag on a player and set the level, you have to match the offered contract by the other team, including all the quirky stuff in it.  The Bills are admittedly cap strapped at the moment, so that limits their options.  Bates saw what kind of numbers that Wyatt Teller got paid, and since he replaced Teller on the roster, is just looking for the best for #1.

[Motorin']

7 minutes ago, BearNorth said:

As I recall, what the Bills did with Clay was put contract language/numbers in the offer that made it impossible for Miami to match.  I believe once you put the RFA tag on a player and set the level, you have to match the offered contract by the other team, including all the quirky stuff in it.  The Bills are admittedly cap strapped at the moment, so that limits their options.  Bates saw what kind of numbers that Wyatt Teller got paid, and since he replaced Teller on the roster, is just looking for the best for #1.

 

Luckily Bates can't write his own offer! Teller got paid big bucks after several full seasons being graded one of the best OG's in the league. Rick has started 4 regular season games... If a team does come with a higher #, Beane can shift some things around if need be. There's almost no way Bates is getting a Wyatt Teller like offer. Maybe after a couple of full seasons. 

[par73]

CB has to be focus of the draft. I thought they'd at least sign one veteran, though.

[buffaloboyinATL]

49 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said:

Not sure they would draft a WR in the first round. 

Only if it is Jameson Williams. (I hope) Otherwise I hope we go CB in round 1 and DB of some kind in 2 or 3. 
 

Edited March 22, 2022 by buffaloboyinATL

[Shaw66]

14 hours ago, Logic said:

Just one note:

 

He’s the same age — 29 — that Beasley was when he signed with the Bills.

 

If he fails to stick or contribute here, I don’t feel that age will be the reason.

 

I’m admittedly an eternal optimist, but the fact that Crowder had more career catches, yards, and touchdowns in his 7 years prior to joining the Bills than Beasley had in HIS 7 pre-Bills years, all while playing with much worse quarterbacks than Beasley had….makes me hopeful that Crowder can be a productive slot receiver in this offense.

 

That said, if I had my ‘druthers, the Bills would draft a more explosive receiver in round 1 or 2 that pushes Crowder down or off the depth chart. I look at 29 year old Crowder as a push with 32 year old Beasley, but I’d prefer an UPGRADE to Beasley.

I figured someone would come up with some data about his age, etc.   I hadn't checked it.  But when I said long in the tooth, I was referring to my own impressions of having seen him.   I have a friend with great Jets tickets, and he shares them with me for Bills games, so I've seen Crowder in person several times now.  My impression has been that he's slowed down in the last few years - slowed down in the sense that he isn't the really tough option he was in his earlier years.  Whether that's true remains to be seen, and even if it's true, whether he finds the experience with the Bills to be rejuvenating also remains to be seen.  

 

Having said that, I agree with you about the Bills needing a better, younger answer.  Crowder at his best can be an answer for a year or two but as you say, the Bills need someone to push him to the bench or off the roster.   Fact is, Crowder is going to have show something to take playing time from McKenzie.   Crowder is clearly the better receiver, but McKenzie is the bigger threat when he's on the field, and more difficult to plan for.  

[freddyjj]

1 hour ago, John from Riverside said:

Have you done enough research to know that he wasn’t even in Edmonds responsibility Edmonds was just the one that attempted to chase him down I don’t know if Edmonds is the long term answer here but you need to do more research

Might I suggest you watch it again.  Taron Johnson blitzes so Edmunds has the flat and is late getting there and misses tackle.  Tre gets blocked out by Perriman and Poyer overruns to sideline and gets blocked too.  Bam Johnson and Taron give chase to no avail.

 

 

Edited March 22, 2022 by freddyjj

[freddyjj]

42 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

On a positive note on him replacing Beasley, I don't think he even has a twitter account.

https://nypost.com/2019/08/10/inside-jamison-crowders-heartwarming-bond-with-autistic-brother/

 

This is a nice profile of Jamison and his relationship with his younger brother (by 9 years) Jamaris,  who is non-verbal, has Down Syndrome and is also on the Autistic spectrum.  

 

Jamison is a special person 

[John from Riverside]

5 minutes ago, freddyjj said:

Might I suggest you watch it again.  Taron Johnson blitzes so Edmunds has the flat and is late getting there and misses tackle.  Tre gets blocked out by Perriman and Poyer overruns to sideline and gets blocked too.  Bam Johnson and Taron give chase to no avail.

 

 

Cover 1 already covered this to length I suggest you go watch it

[BillsFan4]

Really like the fit.

 

Nice signing Beane! He’s had a pretty great offseason so far.

[billsfan_34]

1 hour ago, gobills404 said:

There’s a good chance BPA is a WR and there’s no way you let Jamison Crowder on a 1 year deal stop you from taking that player

I necessarily wasn’t looking at Crowder as a barrier to drafting a WR. I think CB is a huge area of need…but BPA is typically always the best choice.

[Mark Long Beach]

I never felt much doubt that Bean would find a quality vet WR to come in on a cheap deal (such as what we got in Crowder).   What WR doesn't want Josh Freaking Allen throwing to them?   

 

However, I am much more concerned about CB  than I can remember.   Levi was a fantastic floor for a CB and really a solid fallback starter.   His lack of foot speed hurt him vs many WR, but his change of direction, anticipation and understanding of where he was supposed to be was very good.   Dane is a better, more aggressive tackler, but gets lost and fooled way more often in coverage.   I want him as my outside CB4, not 1 2 or 3.  

 

Tre is likely to be not ready for the start of season...  With the high demand of CBs, any competent ones go for more money than we have.   I don't like any of the vet CBs left and feel like we MUST take a CB in the first round to maximize the chances of a competent starter.   I don't like this feeling.

[Tenhigh]

18 hours ago, Never NEVER Give-up said:

Holy Cow!!   Nicely done!  He was the only guy on the Jets Offense that I ever worried about.  He's pretty darn good!!

There were other guys on the Jets offense?