Bills sign Duke Johnson!!

[Chicken Boo]

20 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

How many playoff games have Jonathan Taylor and Derrick Henry won???  How many Super Bowls???

 

Not a great argument as neither has an elite QB to help the balance. 

 

Imagine the Bills with Taylor or Henry.  

[billsfan1959]

2 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

How is it that different? Sure there are some differences, but you still have to be competent in running the ball. Do you think the Titans are half the team without Henry? If Henry doesn’t get hurt, they likely would have gone to the super bowl. 

 

They aren't the same team without Henry because their entire offense is built around Henry...

[filthymcnasty08]

We needed a body in the RB room.

 

Good pickup, cheap.

 

IMHO:  If we sign a vet CB next, we are 100% going to take another RB in the draft and I wouldn't be surprised if it were Breece Hall.

 

 

 

 

[thenorthremembers]

1 hour ago, StHustle said:

Won't be nowhere near what JD would've been. May not make the team.

Has a higher career yards per reception and catch percentage than McKissic.   I think we are really overestimating how good JD is, or would be in this offense.  

[MAJBobby]

1 minute ago, Chicken Boo said:

 

Not a great argument as neither has an elite QB to help the balance. 

 

Imagine the Bills with Taylor or Henry.  

On what Rookie Deals?

[YoloinOhio]

I’m having a hard time reconciling the two !! in the thread title 

[Milanos Milano]

2 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said:

 

Not a great argument as neither has an elite QB to help the balance. 

 

Imagine the Bills with Taylor or Henry.  

We are unstoppable. Nobody and I mean nobody is stopping us if we have Taylor on this team. Breece Hall is basically Jonathan Taylor. We are stupid if we don’t do it. 

[LABILLBACKER]

I'm fine with a dynamic rb as long as its during his 5 yr rookie deal. Most of our money will be wrapped up on Josh, Von, Tre, Stef and eventually Ed & Dawson. We're not going to have the money. As MAJBobby said, it's much more of a 11 personnel passing league. It's ok to want a compelling RB but it doesn't have to be a #1 priority. 

[Logic]

39 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

 

I bet the Steelers don’t consider Najee Harris a wasted pick. Or many of the other top RBs to go high end over the years. If we had a Jonathan Taylor type of RB, we are unstoppable. It’s the missing key. 

Sure, just completely ignore the 1st round RB picks that DON’T work out.

 

How do you think the Giants feel about Barkley, how do the Panthers feel paying almost $20M a year for an oft injured CMC? I’m sure the Seahawks don’t regret spending a 1st on Rashaad Penny, and that the Chiefs are thrilled they took Clyde Edwards Helaire.

 

First round running backs don’t always work out, however selectively you might like to list them.

[Chicken Boo]

Just now, MAJBobby said:

On what Rookie Deals?

 

That the thing.  We won't know unless we try.  

 

Henry was in year 4 when he ran for 1500 and Taylor - year 2, 1800 yards rushing. 

[Solomon Grundy]

1 hour ago, Logic said:

You're just on a one-man crusade this year for Breece Hall.

Anything the Bills do that negatively impacts their chances of drafting him -- and let's be honest, with holes at CB, WR, and OL, all of which are more important positions than RB, it's not likely that they draft him ANYWAY -- causes you to jump into the thread and make dramatic pronouncements like "if they don't want to win a Super Bowl, it's their prerogative".

One of the more dedicated, relentless, humorous draft campaigns I've seen on this forum over the years.

Two men. Count me in!!

Edited March 21, 2022 by Solomon Grundy

[freddyjj]

4 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

Why can’t we just get our Thurman Thomas? It optimized Kelly. Allen deserves his Thurman. Let’s get it, and roll into the Super Bowls. 

Thurman first two years - 505 carries for 2126 yds and 8 rushing TDs.  Also 78 catches for 877 Yds and 6 TDs.

Devin 1st 3 years - 495 carries for 2332 yds and 11 rushing TDs.  Also 107 catches for 697 yards and 3 TDs.  

Pretty even performances - within 24 total yds and identical TD totals!

 

The game has changed in 30 years with more Nickel D and less carries by RBs and more platooning at RB.  Singletary is an effective runner in the right scheme - he is not the receiver Thurman was - thus the Bills signing Duke Johnson.

[JGMcD2]

2 minutes ago, Logic said:

Sure, just completely ignore the 1st round RB picks that DON’T work out.

 

How do you think the Giants feel about Barkley, how do the Panthers feel paying almost $20M a year for an oft injured CMC? I’m sure the Seahawks don’t regret spending a 1st on Rashaad Penny, and that the Chiefs are thrilled they took Clyde Edwards Helaire.

 

First round running backs don’t always work out, however selectively you might like to list them.

It’s a real murders row…

 

2010: CJ Spiller, Ryan Mathews, Jahvid Best

 

2011: Mark Ingram 

 

2012: Trent Richardson, Doug Martin, David Wilson

 

2015: Todd Gurley, Melvin Gordon

 

2016: Ezekiel Elliot

2017: Leonard Fournette, Christian McCaffrey

2018: Saquon Barkley, Rashaad Penny, Sony Michel

 

2019: Josh Jacobs

 

2020: Clyde Edwards-Helaire 

 

2021: Najee Harris, Travis Etienne

[Milanos Milano]

2 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said:

 

That the thing.  We won't know unless we try.  

 

Henry was in year 4 when he ran for 1500 and Taylor - year 2, 1800 yards rushing. 

Ultra productive RBs with speed are the best indicator of success in the NFL. Breece Hall runs a 4.39 and had two seasons of 1,400+ yards and is dangerous in the passing game. He had Brock Purdy. Imagine what he’d do with Josh Allen. I haven’t felt this confident about a RB since Jonathan Taylor. I honestly hope we find a way to draft him. 

[The Jokeman]

I like Duke over Moss but we still need a speedy/breakaway threat. Ty Chandler from UNC might be a guy we could take later that could be such a RB and help in the return game too. 

[Solomon Grundy]

5 minutes ago, Logic said:

Sure, just completely ignore the 1st round RB picks that DON’T work out.

 

How do you think the Giants feel about Barkley, how do the Panthers feel paying almost $20M a year for an oft injured CMC? I’m sure the Seahawks don’t regret spending a 1st on Rashaad Penny, and that the Chiefs are thrilled they took Clyde Edwards Helaire.

 

First round running backs don’t always work out, however selectively you might like to list them.

Neither do the CBs, WRs, OL, etc..

[Milanos Milano]

I wanted Jonathan Taylor so badly when he was drafted. I don’t want to see a Taylor 2.0 . Breece Hall is it, he does it all. Speed, runs, catches, blocks, goal line. 

[Solomon Grundy]

11 minutes ago, freddyjj said:

Thurman first two years - 505 carries for 2126 yds and 8 rushing TDs.  Also 78 catches for 877 Yds and 6 TDs.

Devin 1st 3 years - 495 carries for 2332 yds and 11 rushing TDs.  Also 107 catches for 697 yards and 3 TDs.  

Pretty even performances - within 24 total yds and identical TD totals!

 

The game has changed in 30 years with more Nickel D and less carries by RBs and more platooning at RB.  Singletary is an effective runner in the right scheme - he is not the receiver Thurman was - thus the Bills signing Duke Johnson.

Not as explosive as Thurman either 

[John from Riverside]

2 hours ago, StHustle said:

Won't be nowhere near what JD would've been. May not make the team.

Some supremely bad takes on this board right now

 

McK is probably better......but a back that can catch AND pass protect WILL make this team

[NewEra]

24 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said:

 

Not a great argument as neither has an elite QB to help the balance. 

 

Imagine the Bills with Taylor or Henry.  

Who was the last elite rb to win a super bowl?  

21 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

We are unstoppable. Nobody and I mean nobody is stopping us if we have Taylor on this team. Breece Hall is basically Jonathan Taylor. We are stupid if we don’t do it. 

You’ve gone off the deep end bruh.  Are you going to be rooting against the bills when we inevitably don’t draft him just so the Bills don’t win a SB and prove you wrong.  
 

And you’re saying Brandon Beane is stupid.