Bills sign Duke Johnson!!

[The Wiz]

13 hours ago, buffalo2218 said:

Looks like the phins are becoming the Bills' farm squad

The Bills were the farm team for the nfl for 2 decades.  Time to do some farming of our own. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

7 hours ago, Turk71 said:

  Johnson was drafted in the 3rd round (77th pick) while Mckissic went undrafted a year later. Scouts definitely felt Johnson had much greater potential.

  I definitely think the Bills got the better player who is more versatile, faster while being 15 lbs heavier, has a better resume', and will cost less. 

He's also a month younger.

I like this pickup. 

My guess is, there’s a reason why the Bills targeted McKissic first.

 

Could be because, stats aside, they felt he was a better player for us

[Tanoros]

8 hours ago, newcam2012 said:

I don't dislike the pick up. It's cheap and he might do well in the Bills offense. However, I'm a bit skeptical Johnson will bring much to the table. He's bounced around a few teams and had moderate success in Cleveland. For me, it's hard to get enthusiastic about Duke Johnson. Beane had a very limited budget and did ok here. I'd temper your expectations. 

My guess is Johnson is being brought in to be the number 2 rb. Maybe the 3rd down back. Either way, he isn’t coming in as the starter, unless he has an amazing camp/pre season. 
 

He looked really good last year when he got playing time down the stretch. Certainly better than what we saw from Moss, and I think that’s the idea. Have insurance in case Moss doesn’t develop. 

[YoloinOhio]

 

[No_Matter_What]

55 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

That's really cheap, especially for Johnson. Both have around 350k guaranteed, which is not great wrt Mancz, since I hope he will not be good enough to make the roster.

[Mat68]

19 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said:

That's really cheap, especially for Johnson. Both have around 350k guaranteed, which is not great wrt Mancz, since I hope he will not be good enough to make the roster.

Seems neither will be top 51 contracts.  Those are the moves they got left most likley.  Barring another restructure or extension to create space for a cb.  

[Aesop]

Really love this signing at a bargain. Singletary took control of the RB room the 2nd half of last season but it is nice to snag an elite pass catching running back. For comparison, DJ's owns a massive 9.2 yards/reception over his career, which is more than CMC (8.4 y/r), Fournette (7.1 y/r) and JD McKissic (7.8 y/r). Really don't understand why anyone wouldn't like this acquisition, especially given the price. 

[newcam2012]

1 hour ago, Tanoros said:

My guess is Johnson is being brought in to be the number 2 rb. Maybe the 3rd down back. Either way, he isn’t coming in as the starter, unless he has an amazing camp/pre season. 
 

He looked really good last year when he got playing time down the stretch. Certainly better than what we saw from Moss, and I think that’s the idea. Have insurance in case Moss doesn’t develop. 

Agree 100%. What I'm taking exception too is some here are acting like Johnson is the second coming...The pick up is solid but lets keep it in perspective. 

Edited March 22, 2022 by newcam2012

[sonyab1974]

WOW! What is going on? They don't want to wait until draft season next month to sign people?

[Beerball]

21 hours ago, BillsMafi$ said:

 

Control your enthusiasm. Duke Johnson rates zero “!” In the title.

[boater]

13 hours ago, RyanC883 said:

what other dolphins?

https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2022/3/21/22988932/report-buffalo-bills-sign-center-greg-mancz-miami-dolphins

[Hapless Bills Fan]

3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

Looks as though they are both Veteran Salary Benefit contracts.  The "tell" is they count less against the cap than the salary plus bonuses.

 

Here's a good explanation:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/jake-kumerow-contract-details-and-the-nfls-veteran-salary-benefit/ar-AAV0Yuh

 

Looks as though the Bills guaranteed part of their base salary as well, and that the maximum additional bonus allowed under VSB has had an increase from $137,500 to $152,500.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

2 hours ago, No_Matter_What said:

That's really cheap, especially for Johnson. Both have around 350k guaranteed, which is not great wrt Mancz, since I hope he will not be good enough to make the roster.

 

It's apparently even cheaper than that when you look at the cap hit.

[buffaloboyinATL]

7 hours ago, No_Matter_What said:

That's really cheap, especially for Johnson. Both have around 350k guaranteed, which is not great wrt Mancz, since I hope he will not be good enough to make the roster.

Really? I hope Krommer unlocks his potential and he because a pro bowl caliber Guard. 
 

Edited March 22, 2022 by buffaloboyinATL

[without a drought]

On 3/21/2022 at 1:03 PM, Bangarang said:

Meh

Should have went with, Meh!!

[John from Riverside]

That is dirt cheap for Duke

[Buffalo716]

11 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

My guess is, there’s a reason why the Bills targeted McKissic first.

 

Could be because, stats aside, they felt he was a better player for us

Mckissic is the better receiving option and blocker as a combination

 

Duke is a better runner and more dynamic receiver

Edited March 22, 2022 by Buffalo716

[Doc]

1 hour ago, buffaloboyinATL said:

Really? I hope Krommer unlocks his potential and he because a pro bowl caliper Guard. 

 

  

[Hapless Bills Fan]

5 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Mckissic is the better receiving option and blocker 

 

Duke is a better runner

 

Hey, while I got your attention, what's your take on Crowder's playing speed?  Does it look faster than his 40 time to you?  Would love you to wander over to his thread and weigh in.

[Doc]

12 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Mckissic is the better receiving option and blocker 

 

Duke is a better runner

 

Just curious, but based on what?  He's out-produced McKissic in the passing game.