Bills sign Duke Johnson!!

[LyndonvilleBill]

31 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Looking at his tape from last season is pretty impressive. And 28 isn't exactly 35 yr old Frank Gore. I could see Duke get 30-40% of the touches. Moss and/or Brieda will be gone.

Well, looks like you were correct on Breida.😉

[Patrick Duffy]

3 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Johnson has better numbers all around, including salary.

According to Yolo's post comparing their last 62 games it's pretty close. I mean yeah, in principal Duke's are a little bit better, but not enough to argue about imo.

[Solomon Grundy]

1 hour ago, freddyjj said:

Shady played here in 2018 with Josh.  I get your point but a top 3 RB does not equate to SB.  Now a top 3 QB....

Yeah, but Josh then wasn’t Josh now and Shady was on his way out 

[ArtVandalay]

5 hours ago, StHustle said:

Won't be nowhere near what JD would've been. May not make the team.

Completely disagree, Duke has a better build (shorter but stockier), faster, quicker.  He's better than McKissic and almost certainly cheaper once we get the details. 

 

Good signing for a pass catching back, this is all you need. No need to invest $7 million in a 29 year old JAG like Mckissic.

[Patrick Duffy]

1 minute ago, ArtVandalay said:

Completely disagree, Duke has a better build (shorter but stockier), faster, quicker.  He's better than McKissic and almost certainly cheaper once we get the details. 

 

Good signing for a pass catching back, this is all you need. No need to invest $7 million in a 29 year old JAG like Mckissic.

  

Agree Duke may be a little better, or at least in REC yards and TD's stats are a little better. The bold I'm not sure of... Some have posted they believe McK is faster than Duke.

 

I honestly don't know, but if so it may not be much anyways.

[ArtVandalay]

1 hour ago, GreggTX said:

Camp body. I'd rather have a 3rd or 4th round pick out there as Singletary's backup.

Deal or bury Moss... still draft a back but a guy with size and explosiveness, I wouldn't be opposed to even drafting a RB in round 1 or 2 like Walker, would be a cheap way (cap wise) to get impact production.

 

Duke shouldn't be a camp body, he should be a specialized pass catching back. I think Moss had the hottest seat.

[Sierra Foothills]

5 hours ago, MiltonWaddams said:

Good receiving back. Past his prime, but has some of the attributes they were looking for in Mckissic.

Yes. Yes he can.

 

Past his prime based on what? His birth date?

 

5 hours ago, Back2Buff said:

Hopefully he doesn't make the team.  Solves zero need.

 

Need to draft a speed back.

 

Duke ran a 4.54 at the combine and faster at his Pro Day. He ran a 10.62 in the 100 meters in high school.

 

5 hours ago, Logic said:

 

 

check the charts, my man:

 

 

 

 

 

Thank you for the quality post. It is much needed in this topic.

 

4 hours ago, ngbills said:

What happened to speed? We may have the slowest rb's in the league with Singletary, Moss and Johnson. We need a speed back. 

 

Duke ran a 4.54 at the combine for which he was disappointed with himself. He ran a 10.62 in the 100 meters in high school. 

 

4 hours ago, WotAGuy said:

I’ll take a victory lap on this one. 
 

I didn’t call this signing, or any of them for that matter. I just feel like I deserve a victory lap. 

 

 

1 hour ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

Do people realize he's faster than McKissick and has significantly higher yards per reception average?

 

No they don't. Too busy writing instead of reading... pre-formed opinions.

 

To the mods: Please consider changing your definition of "crusading."  Crusading should encompass more than just the person who cuts and pastes the same post over and over. Thank you.

[Doc]

5 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said:

According to Yolo's post comparing their last 62 games it's pretty close. I mean yeah, in principal Duke's are a little bit better, but not enough to argue about imo.

 

They're not world-beaters, but Johnson appears to be a more productive back.  And at a lesser price.

[Motor26]

Great mentor for Pierce Strong or James Cook.

[Patrick Duffy]

2 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

They're not world-beaters, but Johnson appears to be a more productive back.  And at a lesser price.

 

Yeah I agree with you. I'm just mainly pointing out to the ones saying McK is better. I don't know what exactly he is thought to be better at, but I don't see anything to support it

[Doc]

2 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said:

Yeah I agree with you. I'm just mainly pointing out to the ones saying McK is better. I don't know what exactly he is thought to be better at, but I don't see anything to support it

 

Neither do I.  Which makes me wonder why they went after him first?

[BillsMailman]

[NewEra]

2 hours ago, GreggTX said:

Camp body. I'd rather have a 3rd or 4th round pick out there as Singletary's backup.

Incorrect.  Better than a camp body and a productive player with a skill set we wanted

[Sierra Foothills]

9 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Incorrect.  Better than a camp body and a productive player with a skill set we wanted

 

Agreed. Barring injury or unforeseen circumstances Duke will take snaps away from Moss. It's only a matter of how many if you know what I mean.

Edited March 21, 2022 by Sierra Foothills

[Rochesterfan]

1 hour ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Don't we pretty much have to draft a CB in the first couple rounds if not in round 1?  Seems that's a pretty gaping hole for us right now.

 

Do not be surprised if they sign at least one more DB before the draft.

 

Today alone they filled the RB and a WR hole.  
 

There are at least 2 Vet DBs that might chase a ring - I am not concerned.  
 

I would still expect a high DB drafted, but it may not be the gaping hole at that point.

 

 

[Ralonzo]

6 hours ago, No_Matter_What said:

You can never have enough Dukes.

depends what was for dinner last night…

 

this is kind of a consolation prize but it’s going to be Duke or moss I think. There’s a number of draftable prospects for the JDM role.

[Putin]

1 hour ago, ArtVandalay said:

Completely disagree, Duke has a better build (shorter but stockier), faster, quicker.  He's better than McKissic and almost certainly cheaper once we get the details. 

 

Good signing for a pass catching back, this is all you need. No need to invest $7 million in a 29 year old JAG like Mckissic.

Exactly for the $3 million in savings we just signed Case Keenum 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

6 hours ago, JGMcD2 said:

It’s a real murders row…

 

2010: CJ Spiller, Ryan Mathews, Jahvid Best

 

2011: Mark Ingram 

 

2012: Trent Richardson, Doug Martin, David Wilson

 

2015: Todd Gurley, Melvin Gordon

 

2016: Ezekiel Elliot

2017: Leonard Fournette, Christian McCaffrey

2018: Saquon Barkley, Rashaad Penny, Sony Michel

 

2019: Josh Jacobs

 

2020: Clyde Edwards-Helaire 

 

2021: Najee Harris, Travis Etienne

 

Question: how are you guys defining "First round RB picks that DON'T work out"?

 

For example, with 6 years in the league and 1000+ yds in 4 of them, >900 yds and missed games in another 2 season, Zeke Elliot is pretty clearly in a different category than Sony Michel or Saquon Barkley.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Fine.

 

 

 

I probably missed the rest of Sal's comparisons here

 

 

 

2 hours ago, Doc said:

 

Neither do I.  Which makes me wonder why they went after him first?

 

How do you know they went after McKissic first?  They may have wanted Duke Johnson, but he thought he had a deal elsewhere which fell through.

 

Or, there may be something on tape they like better about McKissic, who knows?

[RyanC883]

8 hours ago, boater said:

Heh. Beane is signing lots of Dolphins today.

 

what other dolphins?