Bills status for Week 2 of UFA (Beane: We are pretty much Done; now shifting focus to Draft. And LIED to all of us. ).

[MJS]

16 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

What has attracted players to the Bills is our world class training facility.  I think we got the top guys and resources to get our players ready.

I actually wouldn't be surprised if he is back for the opener.

This is extremely unlikely. We don't even want him back by the opener. We want him to get completely right before he comes back.

[Royale with Cheese]

Just now, MJS said:

This is extremely unlikely. We don't even want him back by the opener. We want him to get completely right before he comes back.

 

I think the doctors will determine when his knee is at full strength.  If it's by the opener, then he will be out there.

If it's not, then he won't.  

 

I've known several people who have recovered from ACL tears and were back well before 10 months.

[Patrick Duffy]

7 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

I think the doctors will determine when his knee is at full strength.  If it's by the opener, then he will be out there.

If it's not, then he won't.  

 

I've known several people who have recovered from ACL tears and were back well before 10 months.

Yup, it's different for each person, and I agree with you regarding Bills top notch facility... I have to think having that type of equipment/training/recovery at your disposal could make some sort of difference.

[SCBills]

Sounds like Beane is pretty much done, but I can’t imagine he doesn’t address corner at some point before the draft.  
 

I also don’t trust a word he says anymore about these types of things, and I’m definitely not saying that’s a bad thing!

 

 

Edited March 21, 2022 by SCBills

[Thurman#1]

3 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

You want to try again? Nevermind. You won’t.
 

10.8 months has been the AVG timeline on an ACL tear in the NFL.

 

So using that, yep likely does not see the field until week 6. 

 

The Recovery

Tre’Davious White will need supreme conditioning of his thighs. Adrian Peterson famously came back in eight months to play after his ACL surgery. However, the average time it takes to return to play in the NFL is 10.8 months (4). With an estimated surgical date of December 16th, White should be back in October or November 2022. Barring an expedited recovery, White is a strong candidate to start next season on the PUP list.

 

https://thebuffalofanatics.com/the-tredavious-white-acl-injury/

 

 

 

The 10.8 months isn't about being ready to play. Read the actual study, found in the footnotes of your link there.

 

It's about returning to game play. So if guys were ready in mid-July, they still didn't return until Week 1.

 

Doesn't look to me like a coincidence that the off-season is just over 8 months. That puts the average time at about mid-season for those who could return by week one. How many guys get hurt in OTAs or camp, miss the whole season and then can't see game play till September even if healthy in June.

 

Also, they weren't claiming great accuracy. They only studied 31 guys who came back. That's just not a big enough sample size to claim accuracy, nor do they.

 

31 guys and too many other factors.

 

Their only claim that they make based on their own numbers is that people are recovering faster than genuinely believed.

 

 

 

Edited March 21, 2022 by Thurman#1

[MAJBobby]

Beane Lied to us. Still signing. By my counts we need a Swing OT and a CB still and will be sitting very well to head into the draft. 

[BillsFanForever19]

I don't think he was lying. He said he was done with high priced signings and would only be in on guys that "value opportunity over money" on 1-year deals to improve their stock for next season.

 

Jamison Crowder signed a 1-year deal worth UP TO (keywords) 4 million dollars. An absolute bargain for him, when you consider he's probably making closer to 3. No numbers for Duke Johnson yet, but I imagine that's again, another low price bargain deal.

Edited March 21, 2022 by BillsFanForever19

[Aussie Joe]

Who cares if he "lied" to "us"?

 

 

Edited March 21, 2022 by Aussie Joe

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

I see two needs for the Bills left in FA,getting a mid level CB and someone who can be the return man.  At this point, who would be the return guy?

 

Depending on what WR they draft, he could have experience as a return man, but do you want to trust a rookie in that role?

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, MAJBobby said:

Beane Lied to us. Still signing. By my counts we need a Swing OT and a CB still and will be sitting very well to head into the draft. 

 

I loathe it when people toss the word "Lied" around

 

For one thing, when Beane goes on the show, he probably isn't following what's out in public or not yet.  So if he knows about a couple cap moves or pending deals that haven't been announced yet, they're "done" in his mind and he's talking about future moves.

[Coach Tuesday]

6 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I loathe it when people toss the word "Lied" around

 

For one thing, when Beane goes on the show, he probably isn't following what's out in public or not yet.  So if he knows about a couple cap moves or pending deals that haven't been announced yet, they're "done" in his mind and he's talking about future moves.

I don’t think Bobby was being too serious…

[Warcodered]

8 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I loathe it when people toss the word "Lied" around

 

For one thing, when Beane goes on the show, he probably isn't following what's out in public or not yet.  So if he knows about a couple cap moves or pending deals that haven't been announced yet, they're "done" in his mind and he's talking about future moves.

Right like in the presser he talked about being right up against the cap, and when they asked how that'd work with needing a back up QB he then mentioned there other moves he'd already factored in.

[HOUSE]

 

Bills 'pretty much done' after Monday moves

 

If this is mostly it for the Bills, and it sounds like it is, then it was a pretty successful free agency period.

The Bills got their pass rusher. They replaced their backup quarterback. They brought in a tight end to pair with their emerging one. They brought back a few key players.

Brandon Beane appeared on the "Pat McAfee Show" and indicated that the Bills were looking past free agency period to the draft.

"We've got to knock this draft out, because we're pretty much done with free agency," Beane said Monday.

 

https://buffalonews.com/bn-blitz-bills-pretty-much-done-after-monday-moves/article_d917c70a-a97d-11ec-8eed-77c21947c0b7.html

 

 

[UKBillFan]

Think “pretty much” is doing a lot of heavy lifting in that sentence - still expect a CB through the door prior to the draft.

[No_Matter_What]

Yeah we've heard this before.

 

I'd be shocked if we didn't add FA CB prior draft. Beane is just waiting for Bradbury or for the dust to settle competely and then will sign some cheap vet.

 

Other than that I tend to believe him.

[HOUSE]

I see 2 CBs  and a punter in the draft. Poor Brandon is out of Cash....lol

[MasterStrategist]

Great FA, biggest positional need in order:

1. CB: likely need 2.  Somehow find a FA, still options to swing a 1 yr deal, and an early-mid draft pick.  Alot hinges on when they think that Tre will be healthy to play.

 

2. G/IOL: need another starter, or at least someone to compete with or potentially replace Bates if he is signed elsewhere.  Round 1-3 ideally.

 

3. WR: would love another playmaker, but not sure we "need" someone round 1.  Another outside guy is preferable.  With a deep draft, this could be anywhere round 1-4 but I'd think round 2-3 is going to be best value.

 

4. RB: still think we could look to upgrade, or very least look for a complimentary type, ie: speed/scatback.

 

5. Depth: Tackle, IOL, LB/ST, CB and Dline.  I'd expect our round 4-7 to fill in some depth and look for someone who might have slid.

 

 

Overall, I think we are set up very nicely going into draft to focus on BPA, but #1 and 2 on list above should certainly be an early focus.

[MAJBobby]

9 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I loathe it when people toss the word "Lied" around

 

For one thing, when Beane goes on the show, he probably isn't following what's out in public or not yet.  So if he knows about a couple cap moves or pending deals that haven't been announced yet, they're "done" in his mind and he's talking about future moves.

Omg a joke. Putting a little levity into the post. 

11 hours ago, Aussie Joe said:

Who cares if he "lied" to "us"?

 

 

A sense of humor would be nice. 

[atlbillsfan1975]

12 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

I see 2 CBs  and a punter in the draft. Poor Brandon is out of Cash....lol

Yep, the year after the Panther’s Super Bowl visit they let both corners leave in FA. Carolina then drafted three corners (2,3,5 rounds). I expect something similar this year for the Bills. McDermott has proven he can coach up the defensive backfield. The Bills might sign a vet or two but will happen after draft and/or will not be players we get excited about. 

[HOUSE]

You've got to know when to hold 'em
Know when to fold 'em
Know when to walk away
And know when to run
You never count your money
When you're sittin' at the table
There'll be time enough for countin'
When the dealin's done