Niagara Dude Posted March 20, 2022 Posted March 20, 2022 6 hours ago, GunnerBill said: His best season came in a dome, but even his last 3 stops in the NFL all outdoors - Denver, Washington, Cleveland - he has thrown 32 touchdowns against 21 picks and completed over 60% of his throws. They are still top end backup Quarterback numbers and for a 7th round pick which is basically no different to signing a free agent. I take the point on the cap hit. $6m did feel a lot to me when I saw it. Let's see what it comes out at. I am happy with Keenum because I thought we were going to be looking in the Matt Barkley / Mike Glennon tier of backups and Keenum is way better than that. If $6.1m is the number I expect the Bills to extenr him and lower the hit. This is a different conversation, right now Chase Daniel was signed as a back-up for 2mllion cap hit and Tyrod Taylor has a 2.7 mllion cap hit this season. Bridgewater has one of highest at 6.5 mllion, but I believe he started last season. Need to get that 6.1 number to half so we can sign a CB or guard. BATES is meeting with Patriots, so both the CB position and guard spots could use a free agent signing. Quote
nucci Posted March 20, 2022 Posted March 20, 2022 21 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said: Name calling when you don't agree? sorry if his cap number is at 6 million and we go into the draft without signing a CB then I don't like the trade. Now if the Bills restructure to get his number to around 3-4 million then I would be fine, still need money to sign Barkley who is rumoured to be coming in next week. we don't need Barkley...he's also a terrible QB 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted March 20, 2022 Posted March 20, 2022 14 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said: This is a different conversation, right now Chase Daniel was signed as a back-up for 2mllion cap hit and Tyrod Taylor has a 2.7 mllion cap hit this season. Bridgewater has one of highest at 6.5 mllion, but I believe he started last season. Need to get that 6.1 number to half so we can sign a CB or guard. BATES is meeting with Patriots, so both the CB position and guard spots could use a free agent signing. Case is better than Chase and Tyrod. But I do take the point on the hit and agree it is a little on the high side. Quote
Nextmanup Posted March 20, 2022 Posted March 20, 2022 Pray to the sweet baby Jesus that nothing happens to Josh! Case Keenum? 1 Quote
GolfandBills Posted March 20, 2022 Posted March 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Nextmanup said: Pray to the sweet baby Jesus that nothing happens to Josh! Case Keenum? you don't want one of the better back up QBs in the league? Just now, BillsMafi$ said: this should make the cap hounds a little happier 3 1 Quote
Niagara Dude Posted March 20, 2022 Posted March 20, 2022 25 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Case is better than Chase and Tyrod. But I do take the point on the hit and agree it is a little on the high side. I still am waiting to see if they restructure and if that happens then I am fully on board. I just really want to see us sign some quality starting level CB, because White may not return until Nov and we lost Wallace in free agency. CB & guard are two positions we need to look at, I Bates is visiting the Patriots this weekend. The cheaters may just sign him to pull information out of him and then we need a starting guard. Quote
GolfandBills Posted March 20, 2022 Posted March 20, 2022 7 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said: I still am waiting to see if they restructure and if that happens then I am fully on board. I just really want to see us sign some quality starting level CB, because White may not return until Nov and we lost Wallace in free agency. CB & guard are two positions we need to look at, I Bates is visiting the Patriots this weekend. The cheaters may just sign him to pull information out of him and then we need a starting guard. I'm sure everyone is on pins and needles over this 1 Quote
stevewin Posted March 20, 2022 Posted March 20, 2022 10 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Pray to the sweet baby Jesus that nothing happens to Josh! Case Keenum? Funny - coincidentally yours is the first post after the Bills PR release where he says in reference to Minnesota Miracle that one of the top moments of his life was giving his life to JC Quote
The Jokeman Posted March 20, 2022 Posted March 20, 2022 1 hour ago, nucci said: we don't need Barkley...he's also a terrible QB But he's helped Josh in the past and a positive influence. Similar to what AVP was; guys like that are there for more than what they can do on the field. 1 Quote
nucci Posted March 20, 2022 Posted March 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: But he's helped Josh in the past and a positive influence. Similar to what AVP was; guys like that are there for more than what they can do on the field. I understand that but Josh seems ok 40 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said: I still am waiting to see if they restructure and if that happens then I am fully on board. I just really want to see us sign some quality starting level CB, because White may not return until Nov and we lost Wallace in free agency. CB & guard are two positions we need to look at, I Bates is visiting the Patriots this weekend. The cheaters may just sign him to pull information out of him and then we need a starting guard. this is such an overused statement. Players switch teams all the time...coaches watch film of other teams...there are scouts who watch other teams play all season. I don't think signing Bates is going to give Patriots a better chance to beat us Quote
Saint Doug Posted March 20, 2022 Posted March 20, 2022 45 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Pray to the sweet baby Jesus that nothing happens to Josh! Case Keenum? Just imagine, not too long ago, there was a time when we wanted to get him as our starter… Quote
CapeBreton Posted March 20, 2022 Posted March 20, 2022 Great trade and glad to see the re-structure, Keenum is a competent backup. I’d actually have some faith we could win games if he had to start. 2 Quote
Sierra Foothills Posted March 20, 2022 Posted March 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, nucci said: I understand that but Josh seems ok Josh was okay last season. This year he was facing the prospects of a QB room that lost Daboll, Mitch Trubisky, and Davis Webb. A Barkley signing would be intended to offset some of that loss. Quote
nucci Posted March 20, 2022 Posted March 20, 2022 Just now, Sierra Foothills said: Josh was okay last season. This year he was facing the prospects of a QB room that lost Daboll, Mitch Trubisky, and Davis Webb. A Barkley signing would be intended to offset some of that loss. ok but I think Barkley is a bit overrated on here Quote
The Jokeman Posted March 20, 2022 Posted March 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, nucci said: I understand that but Josh seems ok this is such an overused statement. Players switch teams all the time...coaches watch film of other teams...there are scouts who watch other teams play all season. I don't think signing Bates is going to give Patriots a better chance to beat us Especially since have a new OC and new O-line coach etc. It would hurt to lose Bates but he was undrafted and a backup most of his career this far. We likely could get a better talent in the draft for less money. 1 Quote
SCBills Posted March 20, 2022 Posted March 20, 2022 I don’t want to spend on Barkley, but if he’s willing to come back for a min deal as QB3, that’s a no-brainer given what he brings off the field and in the QB room. Quote
JGMcD2 Posted March 20, 2022 Posted March 20, 2022 So Keenum is a cap hit of $3.5M for Buffalo? A better QB than Bridgewater with a smaller cap hit. A MUCH better QB than Kyle Allen with a slightly larger cap hit. And all it cost us was a pick that would’ve never made the roster… nice. 3 4 2 Quote
nucci Posted March 20, 2022 Posted March 20, 2022 11 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said: So Keenum is a cap hit of $3.5M for Buffalo? A better QB than Bridgewater with a smaller cap hit. A MUCH better QB than Kyle Allen with a slightly larger cap hit. And all it cost us was a pick that would’ve never made the roster… nice. and we still have a 7th round pick 1 1 Quote
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