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6 hours ago, Billzgobowlin said:

It's coming.  Maybe 8 of the 9 draft picks will be CBs

All kidding aside I wouldn’t be surprised a punter in the 7th., although I wouldn’t be surprised if we took CB, speed WR, a backup QB, and maybe another G.  That’s 5 picks.  Just bundle the 9 as much to 5 moving up, to get the best players possible.

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1 hour ago, wppete said:

If any team tries to run in us this is our DLine:

 

Shaq - DE

Tim Settle - DT

DaQuan Jones - DT

Boogie Basham - DE


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Von Miller is the best run stopper of the bunch by a wide margin

5 hours ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

WTF is a Ty Crane

He’s naming himself after a character based on Tyson Chandler, ex nba player and HS phenom

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I wonder what the chances are that Lawson just gets cut before the season happens.  I'm not saying that I want that necessarily, but that's a log jam of a DE room again now.  I don't see the Bills making one DE inactive again every game.

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12 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

The advanced metrics back this up as well. I forget where I read the article last summer (thought it was the Athletic but have tried unsuccessfully to find it) but essentially good secondary play now correlates more directly with good team defense and ultimately winning than good dline play. 

 

Ultimately you can build your defense back to front or front to back what matters is having difference makers. 

Good information!  We might be an exception tho and certainly our coaching staff / management look to be leaning toward  building from front to back given all the draft capital , FA additions etc as they bring in Miller and 2 new dts in addition to phillips / Lawson. They are all prior high draft picks as well.   Our back 7 has 2 or 3 pro bowl / corners or safeties and at least one pro bowl LB. Lots of talent in both areas now but the last two years the d line production was lacking input from that type of talent and despite a #1 ranking , it’s hard for someone to argue they really performed like a #1 D  in big games , sometimes playing down to the competition like Jax or getting dominated by the Colts and almost the entire divisional and prior afc championship games against K C    I am willing to bet this latest d line talent influx will have much more impact than prior years , especially compared to the impact of a starting cb 2., even if it’s another pro bowl player or high draft pick. 
 

 

It should be easy to see the difference based on sacks, forced fumbles , run defense,TFL numbers,  and ultimately the W/ L record and playoff success, based on the fact that the front 4 group  is where we have made so many changes. Should be an easy “ eye test” to see the new d line effects compared to the prior two years. I don’t think anyone could argue that this is not the most talented d line of the Beane / McDermott era at least on paper,  so it should make for an easy comparison to prior years.

 

On the other hand, We have had a relatively constant in the back 7 over three seasons now, with the exception of a new Cb #2 this year (and perhaps some early games without White but even he may be ready for the regular season), so  a change in production there may be less likely to occur or perceive,  and if the W/L record in one possession games improves significantly for example ,  I think it would be hard to argue that it was not related to the new large talent influx along the d line.  Do you think that’s a fair statement?   I think it’s harder to isolate production of the back 7 , especially the Dbs , other than looking at PBUS, INTS, chunk pass plays over 20 yards etc., and even those things are affected by line play with pressures adding to ints or inability to have time to complete long routes. Just intuitively it seems much easier to see the direct, isolated  effects of line play in those areas like pressures / sacks / run defense , TFL, than it is to see db influence outside of ints and PBUs.
 

I would be interested in what “ advanced metrics “ they used exactly in coming up with their conclusion that good secondary play correlates more with good team d.; I mean that sincerely as a learning experience and not being sarcastic or flippant in any way.  Good post and we should be able to see if we do have much better line play from this group what the ultimate results end up getting us ; no further in the playoffs , or winning road one possession games, getting home field playoff advantage finally , and ultimately if we make it to the SB.   ( I do realize tho a lot depends on getting relatively similar O production in the face of a huge change in offensive staff and OC).  Like most things , the results are probably multifactorial, and too interrelated to draw exact conclusions. 🧐🤓😊 Best wishes! 

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3 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

Gilmore is not a zone corner......and didnt like his time here the first time around

Woods....in on that all day

Agreed BUT is much easier to have a man to man corner play zone than a zone corner (like wallace) play man to man. If healthy, Gilmore is going to be good in any scheme but he’ll still likely get $10m+ which is too rich for our blood. I Iike Peterson, Rhodes or maybe even Seymour on a 1 year cap friendly deal or a 2 year deal to spread out the signing bonus 

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