Doc Posted August 14, 2023 Posted August 14, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: Lots and lots of words there Goose. So you mean to tell everyone that Adam Schiff impeached Trump for merely asking about corruption that WASN’T happening? Do you even listen to yourself at all? Unbelievable! 😂😂😂😂 It magically disappeared once they fired (but didn't prosecute) Shokin. Poof! Amazing! Edited August 14, 2023 by Doc 1 1
Tommy Callahan Posted August 14, 2023 Posted August 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Kemp said: At least you understand that your contributions cannot be considered valid discussion, as defined by you. Nice work. I unblock a bunch of you every week. to see if anything changed. but you all just post "I love lamp" over and over again. on every thread. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_3q4itaVBQ I Love Lamp - YouTube later
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 14, 2023 Posted August 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, Chris farley said: I unblock a bunch of you every week. to see if anything changed. but you all just post "I love lamp" over and over again. on every thread. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_3q4itaVBQ I Love Lamp - YouTube later Nobody likes losing. Especially if they lie and cheat and still lose....
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 14, 2023 Posted August 14, 2023 Quote Testifying in support of his prior claims of investigating Burisma Holdings, Shokin, in a sworn affidavit dated September 4, 2019[53] for a court in Austria, stated that "The truth is that I was forced out because I was leading a wide-ranging corruption probe into Burisma Holdings, a natural gas firm active in Ukraine and Joe Biden’s son, Hunter Biden, was a member of the Board of Directors."[54] Shokin continued, stating that, "On several occasions President Poroshenko asked me to have a look at the criminal case against Burisma and consider the possibility of winding down the investigative actions in respect of this company, but I refused to close this investigation."[55] The investigation into Burisma only pertained to events happening before[56] Joe Biden's son, Hunter Biden, joined the board of directors of Burisma Holdings in 2014.[57] US President Donald Trump's subsequent bid to pressure Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to announce an investigation of Joe Biden in relation to Burisma led to the December 2019 impeachment of Trump.[citation needed] On February 27, 2020, a Ukrainian court ruling forced investigators to open a probe on Joe Biden's pressure on Poroshenko to fire Shokin.[40] The investigation was closed in November 2020 after the election of Joe Biden as President of the United States.[58] The D’lemmings honestly believe all of this is coincidence…. So funny 1
Tommy Callahan Posted August 14, 2023 Posted August 14, 2023 Just now, redtail hawk said: Nobody likes losing. Especially if they lie and cheat and still lose.... Bandwagon jumpers need to be on the winning team, cause if not they are forced to look in the mirror.
SoCal Deek Posted August 14, 2023 Posted August 14, 2023 Just now, Doc said: It magically disappeared once they fired (but didn't prosecute) Shokin. Poof! Anyone who thinks that it's in the USA's national interest for the Vice President to fly halfway around the world to make darn sure a foreign country fires some random attorney is going to get a charlie horse in their neck from straining to look the other way. Did I mention the fact that this random attorney was involved in investigating a company, who the VP's drug addicted son just happens to be on the Board of, again randomly and for no apparent reason? And did I also mention that the VP says he was completely unaware that this son was on that Board and being paid $1 Million per year by that company? I mean really now! We either care about corruption, or we don't. If we don't, just tell us that we don't so we can all go back to our easily manipulated lives. 3
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 14, 2023 Posted August 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Chris farley said: Bandwagon jumpers need to be on the winning team, cause if not they are forced to look in the mirror. What's the bandwagon playing in this forum? wasn't it 70/30 in the trump/Biden poll? You all need some new music. Good, honest stuff and not like the redneck Richmond song. Richmond is a pretty nice place other than it being the capitol of the confederacy.. Shouldn't be brought down.
B-Man Posted August 14, 2023 Posted August 14, 2023 Timeline Of Ukrainian Pay-To-Play Scheme Confirms Bidens' Corruption by Deroy Murdock The Biden crime family’s multi-million-dollar bribery and money-laundering operation has more moving parts than an 80-year-old grandfather clock. Even newsaholics find it tough to follow this scandal’s interlocking meetings, phone calls, trade junkets, wire transfers, and shady characters with unpronounceable names. As just-appointed Special Counsel David Weiss soon will learn – unlike “White House aides break into Democrat headquarters” – capturing the Bidens’ shakedowns requires more than one bumper sticker. Thankfully, the House Government Oversight Committee has ridden to the rescue. The Bidens’ Influence Peddling Timeline vividly illustrates the assorted crooks who paid Hunter Biden, his associates, and eight of his relatives https://dailycaller.com/2023/08/13/deroy-murdock-timeline-ukrainian-pay-play-scheme-confirms-bidens-corruption/ . 1 2
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 14, 2023 Posted August 14, 2023 Quote In 2012, Viktor Pshonka,[a] the Ukrainian prosecutor general, began investigating Burisma Holdings owner, Zlochevsky, over allegations of money laundering, tax evasion, and corruption during 2010–2012.[19][20] In April 2014, Burisma Holding's board of directors named Hunter Biden, son of then U. S. Vice President Joe Biden, to Burisma’s board as a director of Burisma, where he was said to have earned over $80,000 monthly.[21] Joe Biden had been made the point man on Ukraine after February 2014, when the pro-Russian president, Viktor Yanukovych, was ousted and fled. Then U. S. President Barack Obama's administration was prepared to work with the new government, a position shared with European governments and institutions, such as the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund. But they were all concerned about Ukraine's corruption, which had plagued the country ever since it gained independence in the 1991 breakup of the Soviet Union. Joe Biden became a frequent visitor to Ukraine. By his own count, Biden said he went there about a dozen times from early 2014 through early 2016.[22] 😂 all coincidence 1 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 14, 2023 Posted August 14, 2023 Just now, Chris farley said: tell us again how you used to be a republican. I was a REAL Republican, not the current disgusting, shameful iteration. But hold your head high among the losers, liars and cheaters. It's probably where you belong. 1 1
Tommy Callahan Posted August 14, 2023 Posted August 14, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: I was a REAL Republican, not the current disgusting, shameful iteration. But hold your head high among the losers, liars and cheaters. It's probably where you belong. yeah. the corporate liberal (current thing) narratives you post are right in line with pre 1990's GOP platform. LMAO. Edited August 14, 2023 by Chris farley
B-Man Posted August 14, 2023 Posted August 14, 2023 Quote Joe Biden became a frequent visitor to Ukraine. By his own count, Biden said he went there about a dozen times from early 2014 through early 2016.[22] What in the hell is the United States Vice President doing going to ANY foreign country 12 times in two years ?? Red flag anyone ? 1
SoCal Deek Posted August 14, 2023 Posted August 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, B-Man said: What in the hell is the United States Vice President doing going to ANY foreign country 12 times in two years ?? Red flag anyone ? Kamala has been the "point person" on the US Border for almost three years now, and she hasn't flown there once. 1
Kemp Posted August 14, 2023 Posted August 14, 2023 21 minutes ago, Chris farley said: I unblock a bunch of you every week. to see if anything changed. but you all just post "I love lamp" over and over again. on every thread. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_3q4itaVBQ I Love Lamp - YouTube later You are welcome to block me. Seems you can't. OCD? p.99. Still zero evidence of Joe taking bribes. Keep it up, guys.
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted August 14, 2023 Posted August 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Kemp said: What is the root cause of student debt? A decision to incur debt. 1 2
SoCal Deek Posted August 14, 2023 Posted August 14, 2023 36 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: There is nothing inherently wrong with wealth/income redistribution on the appropriate scale. The problem is always scale, and the democrat party typically looks for ways to push massive amounts of people to rely on the government, expanding government, and wetting its beak along the way. A microcosm of the problem is the current crisis with respect to immigration and NYC. Again, nothing wrong with the notion of providing sanctuary for people in need (other than on Marthas Vineyard, where they need to disappear those people before peak season). However, what quickly became apparent was that there was no consideration as to what exactly that phrase meant. What it turns out it meant was that the good leaders of NYC were completely comfortable with compassion and caring so long as the burden associated with it was carried elsewhere. Thereafter, it took about 15 minutes for the good leaders of NYC to send a clear message that while everyone has a story to tell, it was best that many of these folks tell their story walking. A quick search indicated 43 million people carry student loan debt. It's not a sideline issue, it was a simple yet brilliant political strategy that encourages people to see themselves as a victim, in spite of what boils down in many cases to poor planning, and put some money in their pocket to boot. Money moves people. With all due respect. It is not the job of government to redistribute wealth. Writing laws that make it harder for disparity to go unchecked...maybe. But, not redistributing income that has already been legally earned. 2 1
Kemp Posted August 14, 2023 Posted August 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: A decision to incur debt. No. It's the prices to attend university in America. Between 2009-10 and 2019-20, the total cost of attendance (fees, tuition, room, and board) saw an increase of 39.9% at public 4-year schools. At private 4-year schools, costs grew 44.2%. Between 1999-2000 and 2009-10, the cost of attendance at nonprofit private institutions grew from $20,989 per year to $34,920, an annual growth rate of 6.6%. During the same period, for-profit private institutions increased the cost of attendance from $16,124 to $24,118, a 5.0% annual growth rate. From 2009-10 to 2019-20, private nonprofits increased costs to $48,824, an annual growth rate of 4.0%. In the same period, private for-profits increased costs to $27,563, growing at an annual rate of 1.4%. Between 1999-2000 and 2019-20, tuition at the average 4-year institution increased 136.5%, an annual rate of 6.8%. 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 14, 2023 Posted August 14, 2023 21 minutes ago, Chris farley said: yeah. the corporate liberal (current thing) narratives you post are right in line with pre 1990's GOP platform. LMAO. Keep jousting with those corporate windmills, farley. You're clearly winning! 1
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 14, 2023 Posted August 14, 2023 7 minutes ago, Kemp said: No. It's the prices to attend university in America. Between 2009-10 and 2019-20, the total cost of attendance (fees, tuition, room, and board) saw an increase of 39.9% at public 4-year schools. At private 4-year schools, costs grew 44.2%. Between 1999-2000 and 2009-10, the cost of attendance at nonprofit private institutions grew from $20,989 per year to $34,920, an annual growth rate of 6.6%. During the same period, for-profit private institutions increased the cost of attendance from $16,124 to $24,118, a 5.0% annual growth rate. From 2009-10 to 2019-20, private nonprofits increased costs to $48,824, an annual growth rate of 4.0%. In the same period, private for-profits increased costs to $27,563, growing at an annual rate of 1.4%. Between 1999-2000 and 2019-20, tuition at the average 4-year institution increased 136.5%, an annual rate of 6.8%. you’re both right. The government intervention creating easy borrowing caused the unintended consequence of skyrocketing tuition. every time the government steps into a sector and provides easy borrowing folks stand around looking puzzled when they see a rapid rise in costs. these bastardized GSE monopolies that then run as for profit businesses with minimal regulation. I still remember the slick salesman who sold my naive self some easy student loans. I could have been the worst credit risk on the planet, didn’t care. Didn’t even ask. Easy debt. 1 1
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted August 14, 2023 Posted August 14, 2023 10 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: With all due respect. It is not the job of government to redistribute wealth. Writing laws that make it harder for disparity to go unchecked...maybe. But, not redistributing income that has already been legally earned. We can disagree on this one, that's fine with me. In my opinion, it's absolutely the role of the government to provide for infrastructure and provide for the health and well-being of the less fortunate. That's not to suggest that it's solely the government's job, but it's part of the process in civilized society. The problem is always scale. I start with this concept--paying taxes is the patriotic thing to do, and I have no fundamental problem with a progressive tax burden. I seem to recall you're a flat taxer, and that's fine too, but my problem is that the tax burden is too great, that government spending is out of control, and there literally can never be enough money to be spent, much of it yours and mine. I do not think that income tax in and of itself is a problem. I'll steer clear of any lengthy discussion on Constitutional authority, I'm just telling you the way I see it.
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