The Frankish Reich Posted August 1, 2023 Posted August 1, 2023 8 hours ago, BillStime said: Talking points distributed - lmao So ... why don't DR's fans just post there? They claim to be frustrated, indignant, outraged by things they read here. Or worse, claiming to "ignore" people they disagree with. I understand all of the usual suspects post on that board too. So why not stay there? 1 1 1
John from Riverside Posted August 1, 2023 Posted August 1, 2023 41 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Actually, the problem for the Republicans as they just spent a three hour interview to find out that Biden discussed business with no one Oh, well maybe the next witness 1 1
Tommy Callahan Posted August 1, 2023 Posted August 1, 2023 3 hours ago, Big Blitz said: Doubt it. they will just ignore it while the useful idiots cheer on the next current thing.
BillsFanNC Posted August 1, 2023 Author Posted August 1, 2023 Testimony UNDER oath. TESTIMONY under oath. Testimony under OATH!! -- The King..... Devon Archer’s testimony today is bombshell: • Hunter Biden’s ex BFF testified that the value of adding Hunter Biden to Burisma’s board was “the brand” and confirmed that then-Vice President Joe Biden brought the most value to “the brand.” Archer also stated that Burisma would have gone under if not for “the brand.” Devon Archer’s testimony: •In December 2015, Mykola Zlochevsky, the owner of Burisma, and Vadym Pozharski, an executive of Burisma, placed constant pressure on Hunter Biden to get help from D.C. regarding the Ukrainian prosecutor, Viktor Shokin. Shokin was investigating Burisma for corruption. Hunter Biden, along with Zlochevsky and Pozharski, “called D.C.” to discuss the matter. Biden, Zlochevsky, and Pozharski stepped away to take make the call. Devon Archer testified that Hunter Biden put then-Vice President Joe Biden on the speakerphone during business meetings, over 20 times. Archer testified that Joe Biden was put on the phone to sell “the brand.” These phone calls include a dinner in Paris with a French energy company and in China with Jonathan Li of BHR. •In spring of 2014, then-Vice President Joe Biden attended a business dinner with his son, Hunter, and his associates at Café Milano in Washington, D.C. Elena Baturina, a Russian oligarch who is the widow of the former mayor of Moscow, attended the dinner. Notably, the Biden Administration’s public sanctions list for Russian oligarchs does not contain Baturina… From a source familiar with the testimony 1 1
All_Pro_Bills Posted August 1, 2023 Posted August 1, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Actually, the problem for the Republicans as they just spent a three hour interview to find out that Biden discussed business with no one Oh, well maybe the next witness What the testimony showed is Joe Biden lied when he said he and his son never discussed his son's business dealings. Now we know Joe not only discussed but participated as well. But still no evidence. My suggestion to anyone expecting House Oversight committee chairman Comer to step up to the microphone and proclaim "now we got him!" needs to temper their expectations here. What we should expect is a series of criminal referrals to the DOJ, 10, 20, 50 counts of some criminal violation. Against various participants. What Comer is going to say to Garland is here is all the evidence and recommendations for criminal prosecution. But everything I'm giving you is everything you already know, The DOJ and the FBI already know about the extent of the Biden family bribery and payoff operation. But you've done nothing. Because you've been told to do nothing. We both know this, everybody in Washington knows this too. You've been ordered not to investigate or prosecute anything. By some person or group of persons. Given this, I suggest that nailing the Biden's here will accomplish little to nothing in the big scheme of things. Take out Joe and another player steps up to the plate for their swing at the cash ball. The real target is something entirely different. Let me explain. Let's start with the laptop. The DOJ, FBI, CIA, NSA, etc, all know the laptop and its contents are authentic and belonged to Hunter. They know it was not a classic Russian disinformation operation. They know the contents would be personally and professionally and legally damaging to Joe Biden and to his family. Barr at DOJ knew it was authentic, Garland knows it's authentic, Comey at the FBI knew it was authentic, Wray knows this too. So why did they bury the story and the machine in some basement storage room? Why did they and 51 former IC members that signed a letter concluding it was Russian disinformation lie and continue to lie? Why didn't the CIA and FBI step up and provide evidence during the Trump impeachment that would have confirmed the President had reasonable and probably cause to suspect wrongdoing by the Biden's in relation to Ukraine? More importantly, who gave these people the orders, and who continues to give orders such as the one to to bury that PC in that basement storage room and who told those IC members to lie? What's the identity of the Wizard behind the curtain giving the orders to these people? Who's running the swamp? That's really it. Who's running the protection racket that enables politicians, including the Biden's but so many more, to line their pockets? Who gave the order to the IRS director telling them to stop IRS agents from investigating the tax returns of Hunter Biden and the financial transaction record of the Biden family? The goal isn't to just take down Biden. Its to take down the mafia-like system that enables these kinds of operations to fester. Its the system that provides protection, that calls out FBI SWAT teams in the middle of the night to harass people causing problems, initiates investigations and searches for legal transgressions against dissenters, buries evidence and proof of payoffs, and silences people asking too many questions. Its an organized system of corruption that permeates the leadership of our government. It needs to be taken down to ensure the continuation of our Democracy and Constitution system of government. Edited August 1, 2023 by All_Pro_Bills 3
Tommy Callahan Posted August 1, 2023 Posted August 1, 2023 47 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: What the testimony showed is Joe Biden lied when he said he and his son never discussed his son's business dealings. Now we know Joe not only discussed but participated as well. But still no evidence. My suggestion to anyone expecting House Oversight committee chairman Comer to step up to the microphone and proclaim "now we got him!" needs to temper their expectations here. What we should expect is a series of criminal referrals to the DOJ, 10, 20, 50 counts of some criminal violation. Against various participants. What Comer is going to say to Garland is here is all the evidence and recommendations for criminal prosecution. But everything I'm giving you is everything you already know, The DOJ and the FBI already know about the extent of the Biden family bribery and payoff operation. But you've done nothing. Because you've been told to do nothing. We both know this, everybody in Washington knows this too. You've been ordered not to investigate or prosecute anything. By some person or group of persons. Given this, I suggest that nailing the Biden's here will accomplish little to nothing in the big scheme of things. Take out Joe and another player steps up to the plate for their swing at the cash ball. The real target is something entirely different. Let me explain. Let's start with the laptop. The DOJ, FBI, CIA, NSA, etc, all know the laptop and its contents are authentic and belonged to Hunter. They know it was not a classic Russian disinformation operation. They know the contents would be personally and professionally and legally damaging to Joe Biden and to his family. Barr at DOJ knew it was authentic, Garland knows it's authentic, Comey at the FBI knew it was authentic, Wray knows this too. So why did they bury the story and the machine in some basement storage room? Why did they and 51 former IC members that signed a letter concluding it was Russian disinformation lie and continue to lie? Why didn't the CIA and FBI step up and provide evidence during the Trump impeachment that would have confirmed the President had reasonable and probably cause to suspect wrongdoing by the Biden's in relation to Ukraine? More importantly, who gave these people the orders, and who continues to give orders such as the one to to bury that PC in that basement storage room and who told those IC members to lie? What's the identity of the Wizard behind the curtain giving the orders to these people? Who's running the swamp? That's really it. Who's running the protection racket that enables politicians, including the Biden's but so many more, to line their pockets? Who gave the order to the IRS director telling them to stop IRS agents from investigating the tax returns of Hunter Biden and the financial transaction record of the Biden family? The goal isn't to just take down Biden. Its to take down the mafia-like system that enables these kinds of operations to fester. Its the system that provides protection, that calls out FBI SWAT teams in the middle of the night to harass people causing problems, initiates investigations and searches for legal transgressions against dissenters, buries evidence and proof of payoffs, and silences people asking too many questions. Its an organized system of corruption that permeates the leadership of our government. It needs to be taken down to ensure the continuation of our Democracy and Constitution system of government. Not according to them. the MSM sites said the hearing was a dud and nothing was proven. so that's what they run with as fact.
BillStime Posted August 1, 2023 Posted August 1, 2023 7 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said: So ... why don't DR's fans just post there? They claim to be frustrated, indignant, outraged by things they read here. Or worse, claiming to "ignore" people they disagree with. I understand all of the usual suspects post on that board too. So why not stay there? I agree but… they are lonely and crave attention to distract from their pathetic lives and bad choices.
Tommy Callahan Posted August 1, 2023 Posted August 1, 2023 ^^^^^^^^^^^^ the projection is off the chart ^^^^^^^^^^^^ 1
BillsFanNC Posted August 1, 2023 Author Posted August 1, 2023 7 hours ago, Big Blitz said: Here you go. He talked to his son about his foreign business dealings because he's a loving family man... 1
BillsFanNC Posted August 1, 2023 Author Posted August 1, 2023 This must really melt some wires in brains of those like @John from Riverside The NYT is deviating here from your long standing marching orders. Which outlet do you trust and parrot? Does not compute. 1
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted August 1, 2023 Posted August 1, 2023 8 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: Here you go. He talked to his son about his foreign business dealings because he's a loving family man... Yikes. Joe Biden partnering with Hunter in significant business deals is actually evidence of his deep commitment to his critically ill son. God bless Hunter for finding a way to help his father deal with things. 3
Biden is Mentally Fit Posted August 1, 2023 Posted August 1, 2023 Is there any precedence for the board mods to combine accounts? It seems like we might all be able to save precious brain cells if there was one account with the handle “Tiberius from Riverside”. 4
Orlando Buffalo Posted August 1, 2023 Posted August 1, 2023 13 hours ago, John from Riverside said: No actual evidence What would constitute actual evidence? Do expect to find Joe on video saying he help back a billion dollars unless they fired the guy who was investigating his son? 1 1
All_Pro_Bills Posted August 1, 2023 Posted August 1, 2023 6 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: If anyone still believes in Joe's innocence at this point they're either lying to themselves or incapable of rational thought. But then again these are the same folks that believe Trump sold nuclear top secrets. Even though not a single charge mentioned it. And absent a shred of evidence or proof. But they heard it from Joe Scarborough. So it must be true! And they insist the other guys are in a cult. Comical. Just comical. 3
SoCal Deek Posted August 1, 2023 Posted August 1, 2023 Speaking as a guy who worked with public elected officials for over FORTY years; the minute Joe got brought into any one of those phone calls he should have immediately said “I can’t be involved here” and gotten off the call. Then…he should’ve told his son to NEVER do that again. 2
The Frankish Reich Posted August 1, 2023 Posted August 1, 2023 25 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Speaking as a guy who worked with public elected officials for over FORTY years; the minute Joe got brought into any one of those phone calls he should have immediately said “I can’t be involved here” and gotten off the call. Then…he should’ve told his son to NEVER do that again. Agreed. I've been saying for months that Hunter should be investigated. And these congressional investigations, even though "political" (hey, it's an elected branch), have yielded some important information. Now here's the dividing line. We can all agree that getting Joe on the line was inappropriate, unbecoming, unsavory. As I understand it though, this was after he was out of office, before he was running again. So "unsavory" is not the same as "illegal." What happened before 2017 is really the key here. We shall see.
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