Breaking: Von Miller to bills, 6 year , 120 million

[BillsFanForever19]

2 hours ago, davefan66 said:

Different fits and fabrics.  I believe the Bills store one is more “game like”, the nfl.com is the Nike version of the NFL Proline jersey.  That’s why I got the nfl.com one, better fitting.

 

I think you're just thinking about the difference between the $150 "Limited" Jerseys and the $120 "Game" Jerseys.

 

I've gotten Game Jerseys from each place and they're the same. The Limited Jerseys are more expensive, of a different material, and have numbers and letters stitched on.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

I hope everyone prepares for a lot of late games.

[Coffeesforclosers]

4 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

I hope everyone prepares for a lot of late games.

 

It took the NFL a year or two to figure out how well the Bills travel, and how much audiences love Josh Allen.

 

We *might* get as many prime time games as the Cowboys.  It's gonna be close. Jerrah is gonna have to pull out all the stops.

Edited March 19, 2022 by Coffeesforclosers

[Slippery Rubber Mats]

5 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

It played better but “very well”. Nah. Josh was pulling some Houdini ***** to escape almost definite sacks as his offensive line got blown up in front of him…. Especially in the divisional game. 
 

I’m still not even sold on Brown. Dude was down right awful at times in pass protection last season. 

 

I don't think anyone should be "sold" on Brown. He was a rookie lol. Of course he isn't a finished product

[Buffalo_Stampede]

 

[SCBills]

4 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

 

Well done.  
 

Clearly they plan on this being a 3 year commitment.  Year by year after if he’s trying to be Reggie White. 
 

7.4M in dead cap Year 4

 

3.7M in dead cap Year 5 

 

0 dead cap Year 6

 

 

Edited March 19, 2022 by SCBills

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Mikie's Bills]

15 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Well done.  
 

Clearly they plan on this being a 3 year commitment.  Year by year after if he’s trying to be Reggie White. 
 

7.4M in dead cap Year 4

 

3.7M in dead cap Year 5 

 

0 dead cap Year 6

 

 

If this is accurate, then an excellent job by Beane. I was expecting worse

[Magox]

31 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

I’m sure they could continue lowering the cap hit for the next few years and leave larger dead cap hits towards the end

[TPS]

This is good. Unless they want to make other moves, they should be able to fit all of their FAs within the current space, including Barkley.

Edited March 19, 2022 by TPS

[mannc]

1 hour ago, ScottLaw said:

It played better but “very well”. Nah. Josh was pulling some Houdini ***** to escape almost definite sacks as his offensive line got blown up in front of him…. Especially in the divisional game. 
 

I’m still not even sold on Brown. Dude was down right awful at times in pass protection last season. 

I’m not sure how you can say that.  No one laid so much as a glove on Josh for the last month of the season…oh, and the running was good too.

[Doc]

So is this the "splash" signing to distract from the stadium?  Asking for a friend.

[ddaryl]

6 minutes ago, Doc said:

So is this the "splash" signing to distract from the stadium?  Asking for a friend.

 

 

Tell your friend "What stadium?"

[No_Matter_What]

57 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

Well I wasn't way off with my guess 2 days ago. A bit smaller signing bonus, a bit lower 2022 cap hit in exchange for higher cap hits next 2 years.

 

Overall nice contract, next year will be fun cap wise

 

 

On 3/17/2022 at 9:39 AM, No_Matter_What said:

Didn't read the whole thread so no idea if this was discussed, but I will take a wild guess on contract structure:

 

$24M signing bonus spread over 6 years. There will be some other yearly bonuses instead of base salary I am just make it simple for the guess purposes.

 

Y1 - 4M base salary (8M cap hit)

Y2 - 11M base salary (15M cap hit)

Y3 - 14M base salary (18M cap hit)

Y4 - 17M base salary (21M cap hit, 12M dead cap)

Y5 - 25M base salary (29M cap hit, 8M dead cap)

Y6 - 25M base salary (29M cap hit, 4M dead cap)

 

That's 120M total, 53M in first 3 years, 70M in first 4. I can imagine signing bonus being a little less, but I doubt its less than 20M.

 

EDIT: What is surprising, according to sportrac signing bonus is spread over 5 years only, not all 6. I had no idea it was even possible. So it means that after 3 years there is only dead cap of 2 years worth of signing bonus (7,4M). Interesting.

Edited March 19, 2022 by No_Matter_What

[Mikie's Bills]

22 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said:

 

Well I wasn't way off with my guess 2 days ago. A bit smaller signing bonus, a bit lower 2022 cap hit in exchange for higher cap hits next 2 years.

 

Overall nice contract, next year will be fun cap wise

 

 

 

EDIT: What is surprising, according to sportrac signing bonus is spread over 5 years only, not all 6. I had no idea it was even possible. So it means that after 3 years there is only dead cap of 2 years worth of signing bonus (7,4M). Interesting.

Yeah I was unsure about that as well, but it has been done in the past.

 

See Trent Williams

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/trent-williams-6513/

 

Still somewhat likely there will be dead cap hits added in the later years of the deal assuming they restructure in 2023 or 24.

 

Edit:

Signing bonus can only be spread over a max of 5 years, interesting:

"Players receive a signing bonus upon signing their contract with a team and it is fully guaranteed. The player usually receives payment in the first year after signing with a team. The team can pay the player the whole amount at once or spread the payments out over the length of the contract to reserve cap space. This is known as a “prorated bonus” and a team can spread the payment out over a maximum of five years. However if the team cuts the player it must pay the full amount outstanding reducing their cap space."

https://en.as.com/en/2021/02/25/nfl/1614214446_974122.html#:~:text=The player usually receives payment,a maximum of five years.

Edited March 19, 2022 by Mikie's Bills

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, Tom Donahoe, GM said:

 

I don't think anyone should be "sold" on Brown. He was a rookie lol. Of course he isn't a finished product

I’ve been sold on several rookies.  Many people have been.  

 

You don’t think anyone should ever be sold on a rookie?  That’s strange.  Being sold on a player doesn’t mean that said player will 💯 be a star, it just means that you loved what you saw and are confidant that they’ll be good players.  

[No_Matter_What]

11 minutes ago, Mikie's Bills said:

 

Signing bonus can only be spread over a max of 5 years, interesting:

 

Yeah I also already found out.

[billieve420]

Von Miller signing is the Bills pushing their chips to the middle of the table and going all in. They should maintain that same aggressiveness come the trade deadline in terms of adding pieces for that run to a championship. It is Super Bowl or bust now for this team in terms of expectations moving forward.

[Motor26]

2 hours ago, mannc said:

I’m not sure how you can say that.  No one laid so much as a glove on Josh for the last month of the season…oh, and the running was good too.

Josh Allen was the highest pressured QB in the NFL last season. I’m not sure anyone thinks last years line would be considered good or not in need of an upgrade.

Edited March 19, 2022 by Motor26

[mannc]

2 minutes ago, Motor26 said:

Josh Allen was the highest pressured QB in the NFL last season. I’m not sure anyone thinks last years line would be considered good or not in need of an upgrade.

I was talking about the last six games, including the playoffs