Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted March 17, 2022 Posted March 17, 2022 Can recall Monday morning reading the Bills sign McKenzie for $8 mil, by Tuesday morning when contract detail came out it was $4 mil. Expect the same here. This is the first free agent the Bills ever signed that my wife knew right away who he was. She's a Dancing With the Stars viewer! Quote
Rochesterfan Posted March 17, 2022 Posted March 17, 2022 On 3/17/2022 at 1:21 AM, newcam2012 said: He's lucky if he has 2 good years in him. I don't like the signing. Expand Good that makes me feel a lot better about the deal. 🤦♂️ 4 1 Quote
daz28 Posted March 17, 2022 Posted March 17, 2022 On 3/17/2022 at 12:31 AM, PatsFanNH said: Should be a great signing for the Bills for the first 2 years. So that make only 1 yr POSSIBLY where he is a liability.. but may get you over the hump against KC. Expand Even at 35, he's not going to be the 60th worst DE in the game. He'll just be a somewhat overpaid one. It's not like he'll be so bad we'd have to cut him, and crush our cap doing so. 2 Quote
ndirish1978 Posted March 17, 2022 Posted March 17, 2022 On 3/17/2022 at 12:12 AM, JBI$111 said: This contract seems more like a rookie GM handling it & reaching for a name or a splash for marketing purposes because he missed on a few others this year that we may or may not know about aka like Russ Brandon in the past (which never worked out), that's way too much and ridiculous regardless of how it's back-loaded. I like Brandon Beane a lot, but this just seems like an over zealous reach & inexperience GM move. Stupid and he really got fleeced & overpaid! They need better offensive lineman, a cornerback or two, a really good linebacker and another stud wide receiver like DK Metcalf. Also, a better running back then just Singletary. Expand Only took 5 posts to make the ignore list, that's gotta be some kind of record! 1 1 3 Quote
muppy Posted March 17, 2022 Posted March 17, 2022 On 3/17/2022 at 12:29 AM, Generic_Bills_Fan said: I think the pass rush was pretty underrated last season too so they could be absolute animals this year. Expand I would think adding a guy like Von Miller into the mix will serve to make the entire DL more productive and better. Its exciting to ponder the possibilities moving forward that is for sure! I frankly don't care who eats as long as someone on that line does ya know? GO BILLS!~!~!!! 2 Quote
Hsker4life Posted March 17, 2022 Posted March 17, 2022 On 3/17/2022 at 1:28 AM, newcam2012 said: Of course not. My issue is the contract. You really think he's going have anything left in year 3, 4, 5, and 6? The Bills brass made a terrible financial decision long term. Chandler Jones was a much better asset. Expand Do you not understand how contracts and guaranteed money work? And how old do you think Chandler is? 1 Quote
Bruffalo Posted March 17, 2022 Posted March 17, 2022 On 3/17/2022 at 1:28 AM, newcam2012 said: Of course not. My issue is the contract. You really think he's going have anything left in year 3, 4, 5, and 6? The Bills brass made a terrible financial decision long term. Chandler Jones was a much better asset. Expand It's a good thing the structure of the contract has clear and easy outs for years 4-5-6 with little to no guaranteed money. It's also really easy to go find this information by this point of the news breaking. Also, Chandler Jones is almost the same age as Miller, and by most metrics is not as efficient as Miller. I think you can argue that Jones might be a better asset but it's not nearly as clear cut as you're making it out to be. 1 1 Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted March 17, 2022 Posted March 17, 2022 On 3/17/2022 at 1:32 AM, Rochesterfan said: Good that makes me feel a lot better about the deal. 🤦♂️ Expand You’re just listening to the wrong person lol IF he only has two good years left he is gone after year 3 pretty easily Quote
Doc Brown Posted March 17, 2022 Posted March 17, 2022 Really need to see the structure of this deal before giving an opinion. Quote
The Dean Posted March 17, 2022 Posted March 17, 2022 On 3/17/2022 at 1:17 AM, Dablitzkrieg said: Tax payers Expand I have to believe you know the public money is for the Stadium---which the county (not the team) will own, right? And that money has nothing at all to do with the money for players. Right? You know that? On 3/17/2022 at 1:28 AM, newcam2012 said: Of course not. My issue is the contract. You really think he's going have anything left in year 3, 4, 5, and 6? The Bills brass made a terrible financial decision long term. Chandler Jones was a much better asset. Expand The ignorance is strong with this one. Quote
Breakout Squad Posted March 17, 2022 Posted March 17, 2022 On 3/17/2022 at 12:30 AM, Chaos said: Over their last two full seasons (both 2019 and 2021) Von Miller: 17.5 sacks, 37 QB hits, 5 Forced fumbles Chandler Jones: 29.5 Sacks, 52 QB hits, 14 forced fumbles Expand Cherry picker 😝 Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted March 17, 2022 Posted March 17, 2022 On 3/17/2022 at 1:33 AM, muppy said: I would think adding a guy like Von Miller into the mix will serve to make the entire DL more productive and better. Its exciting to ponder the possibilities moving forward that is for sure! I frankly don't care who eats as long as someone on that line does ya know? GO BILLS!~!~!!! Expand I’m kind of bittersweet we didn’t trade for him last year now…we saved some picks but Im pretty sure we would’ve won it all last year with von on board Quote
TampaBillsJunkie Posted March 17, 2022 Posted March 17, 2022 On 3/17/2022 at 1:33 AM, Doc Brown said: Really need to see the structure of this deal before giving an opinion. Expand Who cares? We got him for at least 2-3 years and he will teach the young ones a thing or two. 1 Quote
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted March 17, 2022 Posted March 17, 2022 On 3/17/2022 at 1:33 AM, daz28 said: Even at 35, he's not going to be the 60th worst DE in the game. He'll just be a somewhat overpaid one. It's not like he'll be so bad we'd have to cut him, and crush our cap doing so. Expand Wonder to if part of the reason he came to Buffalo is knowing they use a deep rotation on the D line which is good news for a 30 something year old player. Fans here don't like it, but I'm sure the older players do. 1 Quote
CSBill Posted March 17, 2022 Posted March 17, 2022 On 3/17/2022 at 1:21 AM, smuvtalker said: Hey guys, sorry to Debbie Down this celebration, but I've got a bit of bad news. Upon hearing of the Miller signing, I immediately rejoiced, jumping up and down, ran outside, stripped naked and began running down the street. Unfortunately, I'm not in the best shape, and after about 30 yards or so, my heart gave out on me, and I collapsed right on my street. I was pronounced dead about 46 minutes ago. That was the bad news. The good news is I'm happy to report they have wifi up here In heaven, so I'll be cheering our Bills on LITERALLY in spirit!! Go Bills!!! Beane is an effing wizard!!! Let's get this Lombardi trophy dammit!! I'm harder than a 6 pound block of ice in Siberia in a snowstorm with minus 12 degree temps and wind gusts of 29 mph... Expand Really, you sure about heaven? Do they really let you talk like that there? 1 Quote
Solomon Grundy Posted March 17, 2022 Posted March 17, 2022 On 3/17/2022 at 1:21 AM, newcam2012 said: He's lucky if he has 2 good years in him. I don't like the signing. Expand Who pissed in your coffee? Quote
Logic Posted March 17, 2022 Posted March 17, 2022 On 3/17/2022 at 12:55 AM, BillsVet said: Congratulations on being the most petty member of TBD today. You win the internet gold star. Expand Thank you, I shall treasure it always! (You’re happy about this signing though, right? Or still mad at Beane for…reasons?) 2 Quote
muppy Posted March 17, 2022 Posted March 17, 2022 On 3/17/2022 at 1:31 AM, Buffalo_Stampede said: It's the same contract as Chandler Jones but with cap pushed back. So 2 years from now there will be a high cap hit but there ways to work around it. Josh Allen has huge base salaries. The easiest way to clear cap in 2024 and 2025 will be to convert those base salaries to bonus cash. Plus the TV money will boost the cap a lot. In other words don't worry about the cap numbers. Expand granted the cap is a complicated formula that very few can truly explain. One of those is a poster named @Tuco I hope he chimes in. Quote
Warcodered Posted March 17, 2022 Posted March 17, 2022 On 3/17/2022 at 1:38 AM, muppy said: granted the cap is a complicated formula that very few can truly explain. One of those is a poster named @Tuco I hope he chimes in. Expand I'm just going to go with it being magic....which is why Bean is a wizard. 1 Quote
Doc Brown Posted March 17, 2022 Posted March 17, 2022 On 3/17/2022 at 1:36 AM, TampaBillsJunkie said: Who cares? We got him for at least 2-3 years and he will teach the young ones a thing or two. Expand I guess. McKissic must’ve really pissed Beane off. 1 Quote
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