AZ cuts Jordan Phillips - now signed by Bills

[JohnNord]

5 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

Where’s the source?

[YoloinOhio]

7 minutes ago, JohnNord said:

Where’s the source?

I was told there was a source and to remove the question mark. Ryan Talbot maybe 

Edited March 17, 2022 by YoloinOhio

[Logic]

 

8 minutes ago, JohnNord said:

Where’s the source?

We're not likely to find out who Ryan Talbot's source is, but Ryan himself is a good/reliable enough source for me:
 

 

[Golden]

2 minutes ago, Logic said:

 

We're not likely to find out who Ryan Talbot's source is, but Ryan himself is a good/reliable enough source for me:
 

 

Yes!  Hope it’s official soon

[Warcodered]

6 minutes ago, Logic said:

 

We're not likely to find out who Ryan Talbot's source is, but Ryan himself is a good/reliable enough source for me:
 

 

Man if this happens

 

Shaq Lawson:

[Hapless Bills Fan]

58 minutes ago, Logic said:

 

We're not likely to find out who Ryan Talbot's source is, but Ryan himself is a good/reliable enough source for me:
 

 

 

I'm not sure Ryan Talbot is that reliable as a source.  Who are his sources?

 

The Bills DL is looking kind of crowded -

DE - Miller, Rousseau, Epenesa, Basham

DT - Lotulelei, Jones, Oliver, Settle

 

We have some developmental guys and we should consider picking up another 1TDT if we want to move on from Lotulelei - but Jordan Phillips is NOT a 1TDT

[Logic]

6 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I'm not sure Ryan Talbot is that reliable as a source.  Who are his sources?

 

The Bills DL is looking kind of crowded -

DE - Miller, Rousseau, Epenesa, Basham

DT - Lotulelei, Jones, Oliver, Settle

 

We have some developmental guys and we should consider picking up another 1TDT if we want to move on from Lotulelei - but Jordan Phillips is NOT a 1TDT

For what it's worth, I just listened to the Cover 1 Youtube show, and Aaron Quinn mentioned that he hears from the Buffalo News that the team is working on the contract with Phillips as we speak.

I know, I know...a lot of "sources of sources" and "I'm hearing...." right now, but it's all we've got.

As you yourself pointed out to me, the Bills rostered 5 DTs last season. Perhaps they plan to do so again this season. 

Also, perhaps they feel that Settle and Phillips are diverse enough at their size  -- each around 325 lbs -- to play some 1T in spots.

I'd bet we'll know soon enough whether the Phillips stuff is true.

And as to the defensive end position...as crowded as it looks now, I have a feeling the Bills are going to try to bring back either Hughes or Addison. Again, time should tell pretty quickly whether that's the case.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

7 minutes ago, Logic said:

For what it's worth, I just listened to the Cover 1 Youtube show, and Aaron Quinn mentioned that he hears from the Buffalo News that the team is working on the contract with Phillips as we speak.

I know, I know...a lot of "sources of sources" and "I'm hearing...." right now, but it's all we've got.

As you yourself pointed out to me, the Bills rostered 5 DTs last season. Perhaps they plan to do so again this season. 

Also, perhaps they feel that Settle and Phillips are diverse enough at their size  -- each around 325 lbs -- to play some 1T in spots.

I'd bet we'll know soon enough whether the Phillips stuff is true.

And as to the defensive end position...as crowded as it looks now, I have a feeling the Bills are going to try to bring back either Hughes or Addison. Again, time should tell pretty quickly whether that's the case.

 

I'm kind of "ugh" at both ideas (Phillips re-signing AND Hughes or Addison.

 

I felt last year we had too many bodies at DE and DT and it led to overthinking "gee who are the best matchups this week?" instead of just putting the best players out there.  I also feel with the older players, we need to bring in young guys.

 

Jordan Phillips looks like he ought to be a 1TDT, but the experiment was tried when he was here before.  Thinking Phillips could play some 1T would be a Bad Plan.

 

Settle is said to be able to play 1TDT.

[Golden]

14 minutes ago, Logic said:

For what it's worth, I just listened to the Cover 1 Youtube show, and Aaron Quinn mentioned that he hears from the Buffalo News that the team is working on the contract with Phillips as we speak.

I know, I know...a lot of "sources of sources" and "I'm hearing...." right now, but it's all we've got.

As you yourself pointed out to me, the Bills rostered 5 DTs last season. Perhaps they plan to do so again this season. 

Also, perhaps they feel that Settle and Phillips are diverse enough at their size  -- each around 325 lbs -- to play some 1T in spots.

I'd bet we'll know soon enough whether the Phillips stuff is true.

And as to the defensive end position...as crowded as it looks now, I have a feeling the Bills are going to try to bring back either Hughes or Addison. Again, time should tell pretty quickly whether that's the case.

Well said;

our defense is predicated/ designed on interior pressure so our DE’s can clean up.  Phillips presents more interior pressure & strength moving opposing QB’s off their mark or line of sight & opening up opportunities for our DE’s 

[BillsFanForever19]

24 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I'm not sure Ryan Talbot is that reliable as a source.  Who are his sources?

 

The Bills DL is looking kind of crowded -

DE - Miller, Rousseau, Epenesa, Basham

DT - Lotulelei, Jones, Oliver, Settle

 

We have some developmental guys and we should consider picking up another 1TDT if we want to move on from Lotulelei - but Jordan Phillips is NOT a 1TDT

 

Not crowded. Hell, we have room to add to it.

 

Last season, we carried SIX DE's. Right now we have 4. Epenesa has shown little to nothing in his first 2 seasons. Basham was a healthy scratch for most of the season with the coaches viewing him as bottom of the DE depth chart. They will be rotational pieces and honestly, that's where they belong right now.

 

Last season we carried 5 DT's. Right now we're carrying 4. Phillips isn't a 1T. But Settle and Jones are. Phillips will rotate with Oliver. Settle and Jones will rotate with each other. And Lotulelei may be a post 6/1 cut.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

12 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Not crowded. Hell, we have room to add to it.

 

Last season, we carried SIX DE's. Right now we have 4. Epenesa has shown little to nothing in his first 2 seasons. Basham was a healthy scratch for most of the season with the coaches viewing him as bottom of the DE depth chart. They will be rotational pieces and honestly, that's where they belong right now.

 

Last season we carried 5 DT's. Right now we're carrying 4. Phillips isn't a 1T. But Settle and Jones are. Phillips will rotate with Oliver. Settle and Jones will rotate with each other. And Lotulelei may be a post 6/1 cut.

 

It's not just the numbers, but the roles each can fulfill.  I think Settle is more a 3T guy though he can play 1T.   I think it would be a mistake to slot him in for major reps there.

 

You're correct about the numbers we carried last year.  I've posted elsewhere why I think that was a problem so I'll give it a rest here.

[BillsFanForever19]

Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

It's not just the numbers, but the roles each can fulfill.  I think Settle is more a 3T guy though he can play 1T.   I think it would be a mistake to slot him in for major reps there.

 

You're correct about the numbers we carried last year.  I've posted elsewhere why I think that was a problem so I'll give it a rest here.

 

But even if you thought 11 was a lot - 8, which is what we'll be at after adding Phillips and most likely losing Lotulelei, is the absolute minimum.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

Just now, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

But even if you thought 11 was a lot - 8, which is what we'll be at after adding Phillips and most likely losing Lotulelei, is the absolute minimum.

 

If we do move on from Lotulelei he absolutely must be replaced somehow.  You can't have 3 - 3T and 1 - 1T

[ndirish1978]

I don't think we cut star, we're already paying him so we might as well trot him out there to be Jones' backup. It also doesn't hurt to have 3 different 3 techs who can also play 1 tech at times. You throw Settle/Philips out there next to Oliver and the D doesn't know which of the 2 is doing what.

[jlgarsh]

33 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Not crowded. Hell, we have room to add to it.

 

Last season, we carried SIX DE's. Right now we have 4. Epenesa has shown little to nothing in his first 2 seasons. Basham was a healthy scratch for most of the season with the coaches viewing him as bottom of the DE depth chart. They will be rotational pieces and honestly, that's where they belong right now.

 

Last season we carried 5 DT's. Right now we're carrying 4. Phillips isn't a 1T. But Settle and Jones are. Phillips will rotate with Oliver. Settle and Jones will rotate with each other. And Lotulelei may be a post 6/1 cut.

Maybe they’ll flip Epenesa for a player/draft pick. Stranger things have happened. Jerry Hughes for Kelvin Shepard, for instance.

Edited March 17, 2022 by jlgarsh

[BillsFanForever19]

51 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

If we do move on from Lotulelei he absolutely must be replaced somehow.  You can't have 3 - 3T and 1 - 1T

 

Everything I've been reading says Settle plays 1T. He has the versatility to play both. I think listing him as a strictly 3T is incorrect. Having a 1T in Jones and a guy who has played both is more than we've had in previous years at the position.

[LABILLBACKER]

1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I'm kind of "ugh" at both ideas (Phillips re-signing AND Hughes or Addison.

 

I felt last year we had too many bodies at DE and DT and it led to overthinking "gee who are the best matchups this week?" instead of just putting the best players out there.  I also feel with the older players, we need to bring in young guys.

 

Jordan Phillips looks like he ought to be a 1TDT, but the experiment was tried when he was here before.  Thinking Phillips could play some 1T would be a Bad Plan.

 

Settle is said to be able to play 1TDT.

Not a fan of the rotation. Identify your best 4 and play them 65-70%.  The depth will give the starters a blow. Which Phillips do we get. Contract year guy or paid and unmotivated guy? I'm kinda excited to see Settle by Ed. Say goodbye to Star.

[Locomark]

Phillips and Jerry can both come back at no more than $2mil for a year. Then AJ can become Giant trade bait for their corner we covet. 

[Aussie Joe]

6 hours ago, taglientep said:

This official yet?

no

[Back2Buff]

My guess, this contract won't be signed until June 1st.  They will agree and then cut Star, with Post-June 1st designation.  

 

Phillips is the perfect guy to do this with.  He wants to be here so will have zero issues waiting till June 1st to get his money.