Thurman#1 Posted March 16, 2022 Posted March 16, 2022 13 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: I agree except I'm not convinced Edwards-Helaire is a good back. He seems average to me especially on a loaded offensive team. 4.4 YPC. He's absolutely good. On a team that had major OL problems his rookie year. There's an argument he's not great, certainly. But he's good. Thing is, they're a passing team. They didn't need a great back and must be kicking themselves for not bringing in an OL, a pass rusher opposite Clark that year or a safety. All areas they concentrated on in 2021's offseason, any of which could have been addressed with a really solid guy in place of Edwards-Helaire. 18 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Edwards-Helaire is a pretty average back actually. There was an elite back in that class and it whould have been obvious to anyone with eyes who that was. Thank heavens the Chiefs missed on him can you imagine JT in that offense? Not claiming he's elite. But average? Nah, don't think so. He's good. 1 1
John from Riverside Posted March 16, 2022 Posted March 16, 2022 I mean its like nobody here wants to say that defenses actually watch film on their opponents If he were THAT easy to stop he wouldnt have gotten so much playing time and caught so many passes........its more like "We are gonna give you this because we know we can take the downfield away" Now take that same back in THIS offense where they CANT take the downfield away......he should excel in this offense 2
John from Riverside Posted March 16, 2022 Posted March 16, 2022 12 hours ago, NewEra said: Same, more $ than expected….but he has everything we need…..minus blazing speed of course. The pass protection is HUGE imo. He’s the best underneath rb available and teams love to give us the underneath easy stuff. Now we should be able to make teams defend the underneath, which opens up the rest of the fields again. I like the player, I hate the salary, but I love the fit in our O. Paying 1M over to get the guy that has everything we’re looking for is a sacrifice you sometimes have to make. I’m really excited to see what Dorsey has in store. Def eager to see which WR/s we draft (I don’t expect us to sign any good WRs in FA) and who’s going to be our TE2. I think the way defenses are gearing up to stop the pass, I hope to build a powerhouse 12 personnel alignment to mix in with our 11. Keep it multiple in 2022z So one thing not talked about here is given the contract maybe the bills are not sold on motor maybe they don’t want motor to get complacent he did have a down your followed up with a solid year last year but maybe the bills were not satisfied with his production 12 hours ago, Ralonzo said: Haha no. No he isn’t. Think Kamara-lite. He was a Swiss-army weapon for the Team. Can even line up wide and run credible routes. This is the Bills screen game being built as we watch. Or a shell-killer as he releases to the flat or in the middle beyond the LOS. Tremendous add. I didn’t even think this was possible. And he’s gonna be a fantasy monster. Picks up the blitz to which means he can stay on the field which is another reason why Brieda couldn’t
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 16, 2022 Posted March 16, 2022 Just now, John from Riverside said: So one thing not talked about here is given the contract maybe the bills are not sold on motor maybe they don’t want motor to get complacent he did have a down your followed up with a solid year last year but maybe the bills were not satisfied with his production Maybe they should have figured out that Moss is terrible and he should not have been getting equal touches to Singletary. And maybe they should have figured out Bates was the best option at guard. Singletary and the run game was more than adequate late in the year. If Brown does not regress the OL looks on paper better than last year and they still may add a rookie interior guy.
John from Riverside Posted March 16, 2022 Posted March 16, 2022 12 hours ago, ArtVandalay said: JD McKissic absolutely sucks. Do people here ever watch football outside of Buffalo or do you just cheer any and every signing and move they make? $7 million for a 29 year old JAG journeyman. Yo mama 3 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Maybe they should have figured out that Moss is terrible and he should not have been getting equal touches to Singletary. And maybe they should have figured out Bates was the best option at guard. Singletary and the run game was more than adequate late in the year. If Brown does not regress the OL looks on paper better than last year and they still may add a rookie interior guy. We are a top-five team in the NFL whenever you’re winning you tend to not make too many changes I think the bills deserve credit for making the changes that they did even though they were winning
John from Riverside Posted March 16, 2022 Posted March 16, 2022 9 hours ago, JaCrispy said: That’s who I was hoping for...speed, speed, and more speed, please! We don’t know what we don’t know whenever it comes to contract negotiations with players McKinnon and his agent might be looking elsewhere and for more money 9 hours ago, Turk71 said: Undrafted out of college, elusive but slow for his size (4.59 40). He was mostly used as a checkdown dumpoff at the line of scrimmage. This past season his average depth of target was .4 yards, basically at the line. He was good with the ball in his hands, averaging over 8 yds after the catch. A good steady role player, but definitely not a dangerous weapon. So basically a first down Guy we need that
bmur66 Posted March 16, 2022 Posted March 16, 2022 (edited) Beasleys replacement. Still need another RB. Edited March 16, 2022 by bmur66 1 1
Chaos Posted March 16, 2022 Posted March 16, 2022 8 hours ago, The Dean said: Or maybe, you know, just watch game video of him actually playing. I realize you are just trolling here. But you comment is a bit asinine. A review of situational statistics would provide the answers more completely and efficiently.
Back2Buff Posted March 16, 2022 Posted March 16, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, bmur66 said: Beasleys replacement. Still need another RB. lol, they play two totally different positions. Edited March 16, 2022 by Back2Buff 1
nucci Posted March 16, 2022 Posted March 16, 2022 2 hours ago, bmur66 said: Beasleys replacement. Still need another RB. he's not Beasleys replacement...he's a RB who can line up wide at times but he's not a slot receiver 1
hondo in seattle Posted March 16, 2022 Posted March 16, 2022 17 hours ago, NewEra said: Same, more $ than expected….but he has everything we need…..minus blazing speed of course. The pass protection is HUGE imo. He’s the best underneath rb available and teams love to give us the underneath easy stuff. Now we should be able to make teams defend the underneath, which opens up the rest of the fields again. I like the player, I hate the salary, but I love the fit in our O. Paying 1M over to get the guy that has everything we’re looking for is a sacrifice you sometimes have to make. I’m really excited to see what Dorsey has in store. Def eager to see which WR/s we draft (I don’t expect us to sign any good WRs in FA) and who’s going to be our TE2. I think the way defenses are gearing up to stop the pass, I hope to build a powerhouse 12 personnel alignment to mix in with our 11. Keep it multiple in 2022z Some folks wonder why we're signing another average RB when we have enough average RBs of our own. But like some others, I see this differently. We're adding an underneath threat to a team that needs an underneath threat. Defenses like to go into a shell against us. We need to be able to nickel-and-dime teams when the deeper stuff is well-covered by 5/6 DBs. JD's is another weapon in the arsenal that we can pull out to add stress to the opposing defense. But please note that when I call JD a "weapon," I'm not talking big artillery like a Thurman Thomas. He's a small caliber weapon - but still very useful in the certain situations. 1 3
MrEpsYtown Posted March 16, 2022 Posted March 16, 2022 5 hours ago, John from Riverside said: So one thing not talked about here is given the contract maybe the bills are not sold on motor maybe they don’t want motor to get complacent he did have a down your followed up with a solid year last year but maybe the bills were not satisfied with his production Picks up the blitz to which means he can stay on the field which is another reason why Brieda couldn’t I don't think this regime will ever sign a running back long term. The will sign mid level guys on short term deals and draft guys in the third round and rinse and repeat. 2
T master Posted March 16, 2022 Posted March 16, 2022 20 hours ago, MWK said: I LOVE this signing!!!!!! Finally a pass catching back!!!!! YAY now we have 3 backs at 5' 9"+ & 205 lbs soon we will corner the market ... 1
Coach Tuesday Posted March 16, 2022 Posted March 16, 2022 29 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: I don't think this regime will ever sign a running back long term. The will sign mid level guys on short term deals and draft guys in the third round and rinse and repeat. Fine with me. 6
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted March 16, 2022 Posted March 16, 2022 10 hours ago, Gugny said: You should probably be more concerned that the letter S looks like the letter N to you. Please don't make fun of me 1
julian Posted March 16, 2022 Posted March 16, 2022 18 hours ago, BullBuchanan said: it's the goal, but you can't really expect it. The best you can expect is to be in contention most years. Winning it all takes a bit of luck in addition to being talented enough to do it. You could argue that we aren't talented enough to do it yet, and that we'd require more luck than most to win. That's my particular stance. Beane needs to do more, McD needs to do more. If they got better and still didn't win it all, I wouldn't blame then though, and I'd let the band stay together forever. The New England Patriots went 10 years between Super Bowl wins with the greatest QB, Coach, and dynasty the game has ever seen - including with a team that went undefeated until they hit the wall in the SB. Bingo… I’ll only add that if we don’t have a super bowl by the time McDermott’s deal is up… I’m all for turning elsewhere, I don’t want to turn Allen’s career into Marino’s. 1
aristocrat Posted March 16, 2022 Posted March 16, 2022 Jumpng in late here but this guy has 5 career fumbles 3 rushing and 2 receiving. All in 2020. I love this part of his game. Devin had 8 last season.
Norcalbillsfan Posted March 16, 2022 Posted March 16, 2022 While I hope the bills still try to draft a late round RB with lightning speed, I think alot of the posters on here that are against this signing are missing just how important a pass catching RB that can also pass block is. That dual ability is extremely helpful to a QB and a first time offensive coordinator. He's not the big name home run hitter we all would like but there's a solid chance he helps josh adjust at the line in pass protection. And to those saying he's brieda 2.0, josh and the bills had absolutely no trust in brieda for pass blocking, or even knowing the playbook. 1
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