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4 minutes ago, H2o said:

Now THIS is an interesting nugget. We might end up getting screwed. 

 

Do you think he is worth more than we offered him? What do you think he will get from the Vikes? How much do you think the Bills will match up to?

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8 minutes ago, H2o said:

Now THIS is an interesting nugget. We might end up getting screwed. 

 

They are pretty much in the same boat as us in terms of cap space, so it is interesting to see where this goes. Bates, Edmunds, pick for Danielle Hunter? 

 

4 minutes ago, Tom Donahoe, GM said:

 

Do you think he is worth more than we offered him? What do you think he will get from the Vikes? How much do you think the Bills will match up to?

 

If they were planning on him being their starter, they should have given him a 2nd round tender, and they didn't. So they are either taking a huge risk, or they don't think as highly of him as we do, or they are planning on finding a starting guard in the draft. 

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3 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

 

If they were planning on him being their starter, they should have given him a 2nd round tender, and they didn't. So they are either taking a huge risk, or planning on finding a starting guard in the draft. 

 

I'm wondering if it matters. If you're willing to pay him more, why not choose a lower tender then match any reasonable offer. Best case no one offers and you get him for a lower price, or someone offers a reasonable price and you match, or someone offers more and you let him go (w/o comp I understand)

 

I just mean that if you're willing to match, why not choose the lower tender?

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2 minutes ago, Tom Donahoe, GM said:

 

Do you think he is worth more than we offered him? What do you think he will get from the Vikes? How much do you think the Bills will match up to?

 

2 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

 

They are pretty much in the same boat as us in terms of cap space, so it is interesting to see where this goes. Bates and a pick for Danielle Hunter? 

 

If they were planning on him being their starter, they should have given him a 2nd round tender, and they didn't. So they are either taking a huge risk, or planning on finding a starting guard in the draft. 

True. I think we like him, but wanted to squeeze one more cheap year out if we possibly could. Whether he is the long term answer or not? I have no idea. We only have a small sample size of him playing meaningful snaps, but he faired well imo all things considered. When I say "screwed" I don't mean it in the terms of we're doomed or anything, only we could lose a nice depth piece with starting potential. I don't think we pay any more for him that $3-3.5M per year. I have a feeling the Vikes will offer him a contract that the Bills will not match.  

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2 minutes ago, Tom Donahoe, GM said:

 

I'm wondering if it matters. If you're willing to pay him more, why not choose a lower tender then match any reasonable offer. Best case no one offers and you get him for a lower price, or someone offers a reasonable price and you match, or someone offers more and you let him go (w/o comp I understand)

 

I just mean that if you're willing to match, why not choose the lower tender?

 

Yeah it makes sense. But it is only about a million more. So I think if they were really planning on him being their guy they should have done that. At the same time, it is hard to put a price on guys like this, so finding out what another team is willing to pay is not a terrible strategy. 

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2 hours ago, Tom Donahoe, GM said:

 

The Bills lost their OC and playcaller

The Bills lost their O-line Coach

The Bills lost their 2 starting guards (Feleciano* and Williams)

The Bills lost their third down back (Breida)

The Bills lost their blocking fullback (DiMarco)

We've got our right tackle though. And Von Viller. :)

 

 

EDIT for clarity, this post is /s

 

Feliciano was a backup g/c.  Not a starter as evidenced by him being healthy and watching Bates play. 
 

Breida wasn’t our 3rd down back.  He was 3rd rb and rarely ever played.

 

dimarco?  Are you serious? Fireable offense.  

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12 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Feliciano was a backup g/c.  Not a starter as evidenced by him being healthy and watching Bates play. 
 

Breida wasn’t our 3rd down back.  He was 3rd rb and rarely ever played.

 

dimarco?  Are you serious? Fireable offense.  

 

The offense has never been the same after losing Pat  😉

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Posted
1 hour ago, H2o said:

Now THIS is an interesting nugget. We might end up getting screwed. 

I think he have tendered him so Vikings will owe us a draft pick if they sign him and we can't or won't match the offer

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7 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

We’re not alone.

 

 

 

My guess is he didn't pass his physical with the Ravens. He is coming off of back surgery and its very possible the Ravens saw something they didn't like there. 

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2 minutes ago, Draconator said:

Not any free agent news, or worthy of it's own thread, but needed to be shared anyway

 

 

Somebody's going to have to fill that NFL ad space unless Baker starts doing a bunch of ads with a moving company.

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7 minutes ago, Billzgobowlin said:

I think he have tendered him so Vikings will owe us a draft pick if they sign him and we can't or won't match the offer

No it was low tender. He was a UDFA from what I am tracking so no compensation 

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