MrEpsYtown Posted March 16, 2022 Posted March 16, 2022 23 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Grant is better than McKenzie. Would have preferred him. I know people get mad, but it is what it is. Grant just has that vision on returns. 1 Quote
No_Matter_What Posted March 16, 2022 Posted March 16, 2022 11 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: Grant is better than McKenzie. Would have preferred him. I know people get mad, but it is what it is. Grant just has that vision on returns. Maybe but apparently he is also much more expensive. 1 Quote
mjt328 Posted March 16, 2022 Posted March 16, 2022 11 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: Grant is better than McKenzie. Would have preferred him. I know people get mad, but it is what it is. Grant just has that vision on returns. Isaiah McKenzie has never really gotten enough consistent offensive snaps to see what he's capable of. For the most part, it's been a gadget play here and there. I do know that against New England last year (2021) and the last game against Miami in 2020, he was pretty much uncoverable. Last year was also his first year as a returner. So he still has room for growth and improvement. 1 Quote
MrEpsYtown Posted March 16, 2022 Posted March 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said: Maybe but apparently he is also much more expensive. 13/3= 4.33 8/2= 4 Quote
No_Matter_What Posted March 16, 2022 Posted March 16, 2022 1 minute ago, MrEpsYtown said: 13/3= 4.33 8/2= 4 Old/wrong info my friend. McKenzie actually signed for 4.4/2 https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/isaiah-mckenzie-21914/ 2 Quote
MiltonWaddams Posted March 16, 2022 Posted March 16, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: 13/3= 4.33 8/2= 4 McKenzie's originally reported contract numbers were 8/2, but he was actually signed to a 4.4/2 as far as I've seen Edited March 16, 2022 by MiltonWaddams 1 Quote
MrEpsYtown Posted March 16, 2022 Posted March 16, 2022 1 minute ago, mjt328 said: Isaiah McKenzie has never really gotten enough consistent offensive snaps to see what he's capable of. For the most part, it's been a gadget play here and there. I do know that against New England last year (2021) and the last game against Miami in 2020, he was pretty much uncoverable. Last year was also his first year as a returner. So he still has room for growth and improvement. In terms of the return game, you either have it or you don't. Grant has crazy vision and he explodes through the middle of coverage teams. I don't see that with McKenzie or Stevenson honestly. I do think McKenzie has a role as a receiver, and the one thing I will give him is that he is younger than Grant. He seemed to play well in that NE game because they insisted on playing him man with a big slow corner. But he was excellent in that game. The Miami game was a meaningless game. 3 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said: Old/wrong info my friend. McKenzie actually signed for 4.4/2 https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/isaiah-mckenzie-21914/ Ok that's amazing thanks. I'll stop bitching about it now lol I had no idea. Got caught up in baseball free agency, and work lol 2 Quote
Sierra Foothills Posted March 16, 2022 Posted March 16, 2022 51 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: Grant is better than McKenzie. Would have preferred him. I know people get mad, but it is what it is. Grant just has that vision on returns. 35 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: 13/3= 4.33 8/2= 4 30 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: In terms of the return game, you either have it or you don't. Grant has crazy vision and he explodes through the middle of coverage teams. I don't see that with McKenzie or Stevenson honestly. I do think McKenzie has a role as a receiver, and the one thing I will give him is that he is younger than Grant. He seemed to play well in that NE game because they insisted on playing him man with a big slow corner. But he was excellent in that game. The Miami game was a meaningless game. Ok that's amazing thanks. I'll stop bitching about it now lol I had no idea. Got caught up in baseball free agency, and work lol McKenzie's contract is about half of Grant's. To paraphrase the old Irish saying, "The Devil you know..." McKenzie has been with the Bills for 3 years. They know him, his character, abilities, and personality. He is a known quantity. He's well-liked and well-respected within the organization. On his only punt return in 2020 he scored an 84 yard TD. I would definitely consider this exploding through the middle of the coverage: I believe Lil' Dirty has untapped potential as a returner, especially after studying under Andre Roberts. I believe his benching last year was botched by McDermott. Moreover I'm not convinced that Jakeem Grant is a better investment than McKenzie. Especially at twice the cost. Quote
MiltonWaddams Posted March 16, 2022 Posted March 16, 2022 7 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: JC Jackson’s replacement seems ideal to me as a Bills fan. 1 2 Quote
H2o Posted March 16, 2022 Posted March 16, 2022 6 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said: JC Jackson’s replacement seems ideal to me as a Bills fan. All of Judon's recruiting finally paid off 4 Quote
MAJBobby Posted March 16, 2022 Posted March 16, 2022 Interesting Take on Bills Cap Tickets from Cover 1 1 1 Quote
Not at the table Karlos Posted March 16, 2022 Posted March 16, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: Some proposed Rule changes I like the Titans proposal. I doubt it would have helped us this year tho. Our defense was struggling to stop chefs. Edit- Did people miss their last three drives where they did any and everything they wanted with little to no resistance? Edited March 16, 2022 by Not at the table Karlos 1 1 Quote
MAJBobby Posted March 16, 2022 Posted March 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said: I like the Titans proposal. I doubt it would have helped us this year tho. Our defense was struggling to stop chefs. The Best part of this it is other teams making the proposals not the Bills. Where people would put it out there as crying no doubt. 1 Quote
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