No_Matter_What Posted March 15, 2022 Posted March 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: So with the trickle of yesterdays UFA period. Here is where the bottom 10 of cap space stand. I chose bottom 10 because they will have moved to make to get compliant and sign more players. Some will be easier than others based on their contracts they still have that can be moved around. 22. - Bills 3.8M in space 56 on contract 23. - Cardinals 2.5M in space 59 on contract (does not account for Nukes restructure that was just announced) 24. - Vikings 2.4M in space 59 on contract 25 - Titans -1.6M in space 60 on contract 26. - Chiefs -6.2M in space 60 on contract 27. - Giants -6.4M in space 58 on contract 28. - 49ers -8.9M in space 51 on contact (not a good ratio there) 29. - Saints - 9.8M in space 62 on contract 30. - Bucs -14.7M in space 53 on contract (yes Tawmy is accounted for in this) 31. - Packers -20.9M in space 52 on contract (Adams Tag and Rodgers new contract accounted for) 32. - Rams -22.8M in space 63 on contract Not sure if you realize it but in all cases only 51 contracts count. So anything over 51 is irrelevant. All teams you listed have those numbers counting 51 players. 1 1 Quote
PetermansRedemption Posted March 15, 2022 Posted March 15, 2022 5 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: So with the trickle of yesterdays UFA period. Here is where the bottom 10 of cap space stand. I chose bottom 10 because they will have moved to make to get compliant and sign more players. Some will be easier than others based on their contracts they still have that can be moved around. 22. - Bills 3.8M in space 56 on contract 23. - Cardinals 2.5M in space 59 on contract (does not account for Nukes restructure that was just announced) 24. - Vikings 2.4M in space 59 on contract 25 - Titans -1.6M in space 60 on contract 26. - Chiefs -6.2M in space 60 on contract 27. - Giants -6.4M in space 58 on contract 28. - 49ers -8.9M in space 51 on contact (not a good ratio there) 29. - Saints - 9.8M in space 62 on contract 30. - Bucs -14.7M in space 53 on contract (yes Tawmy is accounted for in this) 31. - Packers -20.9M in space 52 on contract (Adams Tag and Rodgers new contract accounted for) 32. - Rams -22.8M in space 63 on contract The Giants are baffling. To have such a horrendous team and be that negative in the cap. 1 1 Quote
MAJBobby Posted March 15, 2022 Posted March 15, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, No_Matter_What said: Not sure if you realize it but in all cases only 51 contracts count. So anything over 51 is irrelevant. All teams you listed have those numbers counting 51 players. I do realize that, and those player counts are NOT irrelevant. they need 90 for camp. So those players on contract will go down as they clear space if cuts are needed, meaning for the UFA purposes more players will b hitting the market within 24 hours. Figure teams have 7 draft choices and sign roughly 13 UDFAs. So going into draft you would want roughly 65-70 on contract to get to your 90 Edited March 15, 2022 by MAJBobby Quote
nucci Posted March 15, 2022 Posted March 15, 2022 1 minute ago, PetermansRedemption said: The Giants are baffling. To have such a horrendous team and be that negative in the cap. previous GM and coach were awful 1 Quote
NewEra Posted March 15, 2022 Posted March 15, 2022 1 hour ago, H2o said: Not necessarily. The Browns could pawn him off somewhere else like Seattle, Indy, New Orleans, or Carolina. That means Ward and now Mathieu are now gone from that defense. The effects of how they've navigated the Cap will begin to catch up with them. Not to mention how tough that division has gotten over the last week. The cap eventually catches up with every good team with an expensive QB. There will always be cap casualties. That’s a good thing for the nfl Quote
Draconator Posted March 15, 2022 Author Posted March 15, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Now Packers have 24 hours to clear 20M in cap space to be compliant. This is rally Devante Adams tag number that would have to be cleared. Edited March 15, 2022 by Draconator Quote
MAJBobby Posted March 15, 2022 Posted March 15, 2022 1 minute ago, PetermansRedemption said: The Giants are baffling. To have such a horrendous team and be that negative in the cap. Completely agree. Quote
No_Matter_What Posted March 15, 2022 Posted March 15, 2022 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: I do realize that, and those player counts are NOT irrelevant. they need 90 for camp. So those players on contract will go down as they clear space if cuts are needed, meaning for the UFA purposes more players will b hitting the market within 24 hours. Ok, to me the way you wrote it is sounded like those contracts are counted. What I meant they are not relevant to the remaining cap. Not a big deal either way Quote
NewEra Posted March 15, 2022 Posted March 15, 2022 22 minutes ago, Mikie's Bills said: I would have cut/traded Beasley to give Chark that deal. May have been been able to even give him a little less to come to a contender over the Lions. We might be saving the Cole release for a bigger name. 1 2 Quote
MiltonWaddams Posted March 15, 2022 Posted March 15, 2022 1 minute ago, NewEra said: The cap eventually catches up with every good team with an expensive QB. There will always be cap casualties. That’s a good thing for the nfl Exactly why I don’t comprehend how some posters dwell on the Bills lack of current cap space. With a qb making over $40 million you are going to have challenges. I’d take those challenges any day over the alternative. 1 1 Quote
MAJBobby Posted March 15, 2022 Posted March 15, 2022 1 minute ago, Draconator said: And as of 5 minutes ago with Rodgers new cap hit this is where packers stand roughly Packers -2.7M in space 52 on contract (Adams Tag) ***UPDATE*** Rodgers new cap hit is 28.5M that saved 18.2M so they are closer to being compliant 3 minutes ago, Draconator said: Love that CBs are already in the 1 year deal range. Opens Levi Wallace up for a return guessing his market was soft again.... Maybe GMs realize how CB friendly McDs Defense is and do not want to fall in the Josh Norman trap again. 1 Quote
MAJBobby Posted March 15, 2022 Posted March 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, ExWNYer said: I would make this call. I loved Shenault in the Draft. 1 1 Quote
filthymcnasty08 Posted March 15, 2022 Posted March 15, 2022 14 minutes ago, nucci said: previous GM and coach were awful Not just awful but @#$ING AWFUL! 1 1 Quote
ExWNYer Posted March 15, 2022 Posted March 15, 2022 Just now, MAJBobby said: I would make this call. I loved Shenault in the Draft. Depends on the cost (cap & capital) but I would explore it. Quote
MAJBobby Posted March 15, 2022 Posted March 15, 2022 Just now, ExWNYer said: Depends on the cost (cap & capital) but I would explore it. 1.3M cap hit post trade.. still has another year on rookie deal after. 3rd will get it done most likely 1 Quote
CapeBreton Posted March 15, 2022 Posted March 15, 2022 5 minutes ago, ExWNYer said: Would love to have this guy on the team, I wonder what they'd be asking for, he was a second rounder in 2020. Bills did a lot of WR scouting in the 2020 draft so they'd be familiar with him. Quote
MrEpsYtown Posted March 15, 2022 Posted March 15, 2022 10 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said: The Giants are baffling. To have such a horrendous team and be that negative in the cap. That Leonard Williams trade and subsequent signing was just really short sighted. And the Kenny Golladay thing was really bad. Bradberry has been good, but still kind of overpaid. At the end of the day the biggest mistake they made was passing on Josh. 1 Quote
DCOrange Posted March 15, 2022 Posted March 15, 2022 6 minutes ago, ExWNYer said: I think he’d make some sense for teams like GB and Cleveland that need receivers and preferably cheap ones. I don’t think he’s very good though and don’t think he’s a fit here with McKenzie on board; they essentially do the same gadget stuff and not much else. 2 Quote
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