Tommy Callahan Posted April 10, 2023 Posted April 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Yeah, but broke. Were repairs free? You're in dream world. Things last longer now, even throwaway. My old rotary phone hanging on my garage wall for decades might disagree with what you just typed on a device you will need to replace in a year or so.
ExiledInIllinois Posted April 10, 2023 Posted April 10, 2023 Just now, Tiberius said: Automobiles for sure are way better now and last much longer So are other products. But I guess we simply don't clean our houses as much OR just hire a cleaning crew. LoL.... How many people had a cleaning crew back in 1950s/60s... Just now, Chris farley said: My old rotary phone hanging on my garage wall for decades might disagree with what you just typed on a device you will need to replace in a year or so. Who wants a rotary phone or a vacuum cleaner that draws 12 amps. 😆 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted April 10, 2023 Posted April 10, 2023 Just now, Tiberius said: Automobiles for sure are way better now and last much longer Not seeing many cars with cancer anymore. Admittedly I'm in an area with little road salt use but I remember cars with rusted out floorboards in WNY. Is ziebart still in biz? 1
ExiledInIllinois Posted April 10, 2023 Posted April 10, 2023 Just now, redtail hawk said: Not seeing many cars with cancer anymore. Admittedly I'm in an area with little road salt use but I remember cars with rusted out floorboards in WNY. Is ziebart still in biz? Yup. Then they came up with the 5 year "rust through" warranty. Rust THROUGH? 😆 JC... Jeeps came off the line with rust on it! Tune-ups every 15,000 too. 😆 2
Tommy Callahan Posted April 10, 2023 Posted April 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: So are other products. But I guess we simply don't clean our houses as much OR just hire a cleaning crew. LoL.... How many people had a cleaning crew back in 1950s/60s... Who wants a rotary phone or a vacuum cleaner that draws 12 amps. 😆 15 to 20 milliamps for the old phone. Kirby only uses that when used. and I aint buying another and tossing the old one in the trash. But your device does pull amps the entire time its charging. if a fast charger, even more. Re Use at the individual level less consuming is Green 3 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: JC... Jeeps came off the line with rust on it! Tune-ups every 15,000 too. yeah, back when they had carbs and timing chains that needed tune ups. GDI inject has helped a lot, but causes other issues like carbon buildup.
ExiledInIllinois Posted April 10, 2023 Posted April 10, 2023 18 minutes ago, Chris farley said: 15 to 20 milliamps for the old phone. Kirby only uses that when used. and I aint buying another and tossing the old one in the trash. But your device does pull amps the entire time its charging. if a fast charger, even more. Re Use at the individual level less consuming is Green yeah, back when they had carbs and timing chains that needed tune ups. GDI inject has helped a lot, but causes other issues like carbon buildup. Actually... My timing chain on my 2006 Jeep can go 250k. Belts at about 100k. BUT... The real breakthroughs are in electronics and metals. Products last longer. Yeah they might be throwaway, but no labor to fix it during the service life. Way better service life today.
Tommy Callahan Posted April 10, 2023 Posted April 10, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Actually... My timing chain on my 2006 Jeep can go 250k. Belts at about 100k. BUT... The real breakthroughs are in electronics and metals. Products last longer. Yeah they might be throwaway, but no labor to fix it during the service life. Way better service life today. better hold onto that old 4.0. they don't make them like that anymore. in fact, I believe that was the last year they did. and yes, a New Jeep has its first PM at 6K, and that is all labor. Ford F150 is all aluminum so no rust, but the Eco boost engines are garbage. Jeeps like most dodge vehicles have always had issues with RUST Edited April 10, 2023 by Chris farley
ExiledInIllinois Posted April 10, 2023 Posted April 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Chris farley said: better hold onto that old 4.0. they don't make them like that anymore. in fact, I believe that was the last year they did. and yes, a New Jeep has its first PM at 6K, and that is all labor. Yup! Cast iron block... 4.0L is the AMC block IIRC, 283? You don't see old Jeeps in junkyards for a reason! The windshield frame on the 2006 is rotting put from the inside though. Hasn't busted through yet though! Last of the dinosaurs. 2007 went to JK from TJ. Body on panel (no tub) too... 1
Doc Posted April 10, 2023 Posted April 10, 2023 13 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said: This This from 1956. A simple vacuum cleaner: $89.95. You know how much that is in 2023? About a $994.87!! https://www.usinflationcalculator.com The old days aren't as great as they are made out to be. AND we aren't suffering as bad now as we think... New technology is always most expensive when it first comes out. My parents bought a microwave in 1980 for $1000. I can get a far better one now for $90. 1 1 1
ExiledInIllinois Posted April 10, 2023 Posted April 10, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Doc said: New technology is always most expensive when it first comes out. My parents bought a microwave in 1980 for $1000. I can get a far better one now for $90. 1956 is 60 years after the first electric vacuums. 😆 Hardly "new" tech... The concept of a vacuum much earlier. Edited April 10, 2023 by ExiledInIllinois
Doc Posted April 10, 2023 Posted April 10, 2023 28 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: 1956 is 60 years after the first electric vacuums. 😆 Hardly "new" tech... The concept of a vacuum much earlier. No one had a vacuum cleaner until after WWII. And again, I can buy a microwave now for 1/10th the price of when they first came out. 1
ExiledInIllinois Posted April 10, 2023 Posted April 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Doc said: No one had a vacuum cleaner until after WWII. And again, I can buy a microwave now for 1/10th the price of when they first came out. Because they are made in some shithole country as a throwaway item... But last longer than the originals. 1
Tommy Callahan Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 22 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Yup! Cast iron block... 4.0L is the AMC block IIRC, 283? You don't see old Jeeps in junkyards for a reason! The windshield frame on the 2006 is rotting put from the inside though. Hasn't busted through yet though! Last of the dinosaurs. 2007 went to JK from TJ. Body on panel (no tub) too... kind of proved my point. thanks. Old truck when they were built to last. Now what, a 1.3L 3-cylinder turbo?
ExiledInIllinois Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Chris farley said: kind of proved my point. thanks. Old truck when they were built to last. Now what, a 1.3L 3-cylinder turbo? No. Absolutely wrong. That 2006 is coupled with modern electronics, modern spark plugs... Ignition system... Fuel injection, etc... So it's the best of both worlds. Old school coupled with the new school. The new school makes it almost bulletproof... BUT the manufacturer can't have you driving without functional obsolescence. It does leak a little oil since almost the day it stepped out of warranty over a decade ago. 😆... Just look how far brake pads have come. They can make a vehicle that can give you a million miles, they just don't want to. The service life on that 1.3L is probably still better than some other old leaky engines... Takes less maintenance through its service life and is more environmentally conscious. Edited April 11, 2023 by ExiledInIllinois 1
Irv Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 The sick thing about Demented Biden's policies is that we now are used to $4-5 /gallon gas prices. What a mess. 1 1
B-Man Posted May 30, 2023 Posted May 30, 2023 BIDENOMICS: Memorial Day staples rocked by inflation, ketchup up 27.9%. https://thepostmillennial.com/memorial-day-staples-rocked-by-inflation-ketchup-up-27-9
B-Man Posted May 31, 2023 Posted May 31, 2023 Can’t afford gas or food? Don’t worry, Biden’s got you covered (with cheap Internet?) During the fall of The Roman Empire, they had this policy called ‘Bread and Circuses,’ which basically meant the government was using entertainment to distract the masses from the collapse. Joe Biden’s White House appears to be taking a page from that book. ALSO: "Free" = Tax payer funded https://twitchy.com/rickrobinson-313235/2023/05/31/cant-afford-gas-or-food-dont-worry-bidens-got-you-covered-with-cheap-internet/ 1
B-Man Posted July 13, 2023 Posted July 13, 2023 Jonathan Chait sneers at families still struggling to afford groceries in Joe Biden's booming economy https://twitchy.com/sarahd/2023/07/13/jonathan-chait-paper-towels-n2385320 1
The Frankish Reich Posted July 13, 2023 Posted July 13, 2023 2 hours ago, B-Man said: Jonathan Chait sneers at families still struggling to afford groceries in Joe Biden's booming economy https://twitchy.com/sarahd/2023/07/13/jonathan-chait-paper-towels-n2385320 tl;dr Journalist Chait says real wages are going up. Critic hits back: paper towels are getting really expensive. Chait mocks that. I don't know about you, but I buy the 12 roll Costco pack. Now $26. Basically 2 bucks a roll. Each roll lasts a week or more in my small household. I'm with Chait here. 1
Irv Posted July 13, 2023 Posted July 13, 2023 1 hour ago, The Frankish Reich said: tl;dr Journalist Chait says real wages are going up. Critic hits back: paper towels are getting really expensive. Chait mocks that. I don't know about you, but I buy the 12 roll Costco pack. Now $26. Basically 2 bucks a roll. Each roll lasts a week or more in my small household. I'm with Chait here. Tried taking a loan recently? You must be living under a rock. 2
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