Edit! McKenzie is back on a 2 year deal worth 4.4 million

[Saxum]

  On 3/14/2022 at 2:26 PM, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Just a little note that McKenzie got 24% of the snaps on offense.  Beasley got 62%.

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Or: Небольшое замечание: Маккензи получил 24% снэпов в нападении. Бизли получил 62%.

 

Explain this to his irrational ranting another way.  Leaving facts our does not strengthen argument.

[BarleyNY]

  On 3/14/2022 at 2:16 PM, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Pretty good.

 

 

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Okay, this seems much more reasonable. 

  On 3/14/2022 at 2:28 PM, Magox said:

The initial report was WAAAAY off.  

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And that’s why people need to chill out until the details come out on any deal. 

[NewEra]

  On 3/14/2022 at 2:19 PM, HappyDays said:

@BADOLBILZ you still sure this is an overpay? Never trust the initial numbers while Beane is in charge.

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I think this just shows that he was 💯 correct in saying 2 years 8M was absolutely an overpay

[YoloinOhio]

 

[TheFunPolice]

I'm shocked that the contract is that low! I thought 4 million/year was a pretty decent deal. This is very good value!

[BADOLBILZ]

  On 3/14/2022 at 2:19 PM, HappyDays said:

@BADOLBILZ you still sure this is an overpay? Never trust the initial numbers while Beane is in charge.

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Oh I am aware of that......you took what I said way out of context because you read upthread where people like Happless were defending paying McKenzie $4M/yr........here is what I said:

 

"I had him returning to Buffalo at $2.75M....(basically a $2M hit on the Bills cap).....if he really got $4M that's another $1M type over-pay."

 

Note the "if he really got $4M part....."

 

This contract is much more in line with what he is worth based on achievement.

 

Despite all of the talk about him leaving there wasn't a better fit for him anywhere.   

[ArtVandalay]

This move makes no sense.  I love McKenzie and so happy he's back, but he was absolutely buried last year to a level that I would call negligent. The coaching staff obviously didn't like him.... does this mean it was Dabol burying him and McD didn't pull rank? But McD threw shade at him after not activating him in the middle of the year... I don't get it. 

 

I'm glad he's back but let's actually get the kid on the field please. The one game he was out of necessity he blew up vs the greatest defensive coach of all time. 

Edited March 14, 2022 by ArtVandalay

[Warcodered]

 

  On 3/14/2022 at 3:18 PM, YoloinOhio said:

 

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[BADOLBILZ]

  On 3/14/2022 at 3:11 PM, NewEra said:

I think this just shows that he was 💯 correct in saying 2 years 8M was absolutely an overpay

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They know I was right.........they're just tryna' troll me.......imagine people still trying that like it's gonna' work. 

[LABILLBACKER]

  On 3/14/2022 at 3:20 PM, TheFunPolice said:

I'm shocked that the contract is that low! I thought 4 million/year was a pretty decent deal. This is very good value!

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You're telling me...bye Cole

[Warcodered]

  On 3/14/2022 at 3:26 PM, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

They know I was right.........they're just tryna' troll me.......imagine people still trying that like it's gonna' work. 

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[Mark Vader]

  On 3/14/2022 at 3:26 PM, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

They know I was right.........they're just tryna' troll me.......imagine people still trying that like it's gonna' work. 

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So, you're pleased that McKenzie is back at that contract?

[Gene Frenkle]

Lil Dirty!!! 😎

[BADOLBILZ]

  On 3/14/2022 at 2:33 PM, JGMcD2 said:

$4.4M total is a steal… 

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It's really not.

 

He had 178 yards receiving last year.

 

Before he lost his ST duties..........his punt return average was very low and his kick return average was middling.........all while retaining his untrustworthy handle on the ball.

 

If the Bills signed somebody from another team with that kind of track record for $8M over 2 years the board would be.........perplexed. 😉   

[aristocrat]

  On 3/14/2022 at 3:36 PM, BADOLBILZ said:

 

It's really not.

 

He had 178 yards receiving last year.

 

Before he lost his ST duties..........his punt return average was very low and his kick return average was middling.........all while retaining his untrustworthy handle on the ball.

 

If the Bills signed somebody from another team with that kind of track record for $8M over 2 years the board would be.........perplexed. 😉   

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125 of those yards came against the pats. Yea he was electric but I wanna see him do that 3-4 more times in a year. 

[Virgil]

20 Pages!  I knew we could do it everyone!!

[BADOLBILZ]

  On 3/14/2022 at 3:33 PM, Mark Vader said:

So, you're pleased that McKenzie is back at that contract?

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Yeah they need receiving depth and he has some upside in the slot yet...........but being a gadget guy who is a net negative on special teams is like paying half a player for one position.........so his pay wasn't in line with his value if he got $4M, IMO.  

 

If he was a good kick returner he would have gotten that $4M.    He kinda' blamed McD for benching him but his numbers weren't good even without the fumbles.   As much as they pay for ST'ers they should be getting good numbers on kick and punt returns.

[Patrick Duffy]

  On 3/14/2022 at 3:36 PM, BADOLBILZ said:

 

It's really not.

 

He had 178 yards receiving last year.

 

Before he lost his ST duties..........his punt return average was very low and his kick return average was middling.........all while retaining his untrustworthy handle on the ball.

 

If the Bills signed somebody from another team with that kind of track record for $8M over 2 years the board would be.........perplexed. 😉   

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I wouldn't say it's neither a steal or an overpay imo....

 

Although I believe his yards/stats etc definitely would have been much better if not due to the less opportunities, with that said however, I think this deal is fair for both sides

[Hapless Bills Fan]

  On 3/14/2022 at 3:11 PM, NewEra said:

I think this just shows that he was 💯 correct in saying 2 years 8M was absolutely an overpay

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It's not what he says, it's how and when he says it.  Like, 1) before the details are out 2) ranting and Emo, other people can't do math or use clocks blah blah 🤷‍♂️.  For a dude who wants to be taken as an authority, makes him look foolish.  JMO.

 

Even if the deal had turned out to be $8M overall, how it was structured and what was guaranteed would make all the difference - as has been detailed elsewhere, a lot of those "big number deals" aren't All That when you look at what's guaranteed and what's due when.

[BADOLBILZ]

  On 3/14/2022 at 3:50 PM, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

It's not what he says, it's how and when he says it.  Like, 1) before the deal is out 2) ranting and Emo, other people can't do math or use clocks blah blah 🤷‍♂️

For a dude who wants to be taken as an authority, makes him look silly.  JMO.

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Take the L with some dignity, Hap.  

 

Admit it........you thought $4M/yr was a good deal.........that's why you were mad.

 

I clearly stated that "if" the numbers were correct............we didn't notice you shouting down people who were saying it was a great deal at only $4M per year now, did we?