Haack restructures contract

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

  On 3/12/2022 at 3:17 PM, MWK said:

sorry that I question our almighty front office. I didn’t know criticism was banned here.

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There's questioning, and then there is kvetching.

[Tuco]

  On 3/12/2022 at 2:19 PM, Not at the table Karlos said:

Was it a restructure or a new contract?

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Technically, according to the CBA, any restructure is a new contract. In this case it's a new contract for less money and the removal of the guaranteed portion. He's basically now getting league minimum and most likely going to have to compete for his job.

[ddaryl]

  On 3/12/2022 at 12:43 PM, PirateHookerMD said:

Guy is legit terrible....

 

 

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What is EPA/p ???

 

[billsherd]

  On 3/12/2022 at 4:26 PM, ddaryl said:

What is EPA/p ???

 

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Expected points added per play.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

  On 3/12/2022 at 12:38 PM, YoloinOhio said:

 

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Whaat?  Why?

[ddaryl]

  On 3/12/2022 at 1:49 PM, 2020 Our Year For Sure said:

 

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  On 3/12/2022 at 4:36 PM, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Whaat?  Why?

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They reduced his cap hit and he has no guaranteed money so when they do cut him there is no hangover.  Still have to find his replacement before cutting him

  On 3/12/2022 at 4:35 PM, billsherd said:

Expected points added per play.

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what a weird metric to judge a punter by... 

[BarleyNY]

  On 3/12/2022 at 4:47 PM, ddaryl said:

what a weird metric to judge a punter by... 

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Punters impact field position, which isn’t difficult to translate to EPA/p.

[Don Otreply]

Damn, we’re not gonna waste a draft pick on a punter…, 

[ddaryl]

  On 3/12/2022 at 4:55 PM, BarleyNY said:

Punters impact field position, which isn’t difficult to translate to EPA/p.

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Maybe... I still find that to be a stretch.. 

To me I would measure a punters success how often he was able to drop it inside the 20 when in range and then for punts in general average hang time / Yards Per Punt keeping in mind how many times the punter had a short field when punting.

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

  On 3/12/2022 at 12:43 PM, PirateHookerMD said:

Guy is legit terrible....

 

 

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I don't understand these statistics - they smell of Frankenstats to me - but I'm guessing that having a punt blocked, and especially a punt blocked and returned for a score, has a huge impact.  And since Haack isn't the one who whiffed on the block leading to the score, there's an argument to be made that it isn't entirely fair on him.

 

However, in the entirely objective metric "yards per punt", Haack is 32nd in the league at 42.9 y/p.  There were 3 punters below him - Harvin of Steelers, Pinion of Tampa, and Charlton of Car and Jax.  Only 6 punters had punts blocked - Jake Bailey of NWE had 3, 5 other punters (including Haack) had 1.

 

So that's still bad.

 

Bojo, btw, was mediocre at 15th

[Milanos Milano]

  On 3/12/2022 at 4:55 PM, BarleyNY said:

Punters impact field position, which isn’t difficult to translate to EPA/p.

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Thank you for being a valued poster here. Can’t wait to have further statistical analysis with you. I’m glad there are still posters like you around. 

[Shake_My_Head]

  On 3/12/2022 at 1:41 PM, Niagara Dude said:

Yuck!  could someone explain why we are bringing this guy back?

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Nothing to worry about here.   He's just going to be a training camp leg.  He can mentor a rookie punter and then be cut at the end of camp, with no guaranteed money or salary cap over hang.   

[ddaryl]

  On 3/12/2022 at 5:00 PM, Don Otreply said:

Damn, we’re not gonna waste a draft pick on a punter…, 

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 I think we might draft a P late, and bring in a FA leg for competition... Also lots of UDFA P to choose from...

[Hapless Bills Fan]

  On 3/12/2022 at 4:55 PM, BarleyNY said:

Punters impact field position, which isn’t difficult to translate to EPA/p.

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I mean, I'm sure it can be done, but in the case of a punt, it impacts the OTHER team's field position the most - rendering the connection to expected points ADDED per punt of necessity, indirect.  It will be filtered through the team's defense and the other team's ST.

 

Unless, of course, there's a blocked punt returned for a score, in which case the connection is direct and immediate.

 

Not so?

[MrEpsYtown]

  On 3/12/2022 at 4:07 PM, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

Why would the worst punter in the league be your fallback plan? Bring in someone else.

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I guess I should re-word it worst case scenario. I will say Haack didn't seem terrible in the playoffs, but an upgrade is needed there. 

  On 3/12/2022 at 3:58 PM, JK Fan said:

I missed that.

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Fell under the radar. It was one of Joe Schoen's first moves when he also grabbed Antonio Williams. 

[Ralonzo]

Haack tried to lose several games last year, actually succeeded once, and was due for guaranteed money to lock in soon as I understand it. If the new deal is indeed a one-year “prove-it” with no cap ramification then it’s obviously a good move.

[buffaloboyinATL]

He is a better kick holder than Bojo.  

[Niagara Dude]

  On 3/12/2022 at 5:01 PM, Shake_My_Head said:

Nothing to worry about here.   He's just going to be a training camp leg.  He can mentor a rookie punter and then be cut at the end of camp, with no guaranteed money or salary cap over hang.   

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Yes I saw later the part of no guarantee money

[GunnerBill]

God just cut the clown.

[BarleyNY]

  On 3/12/2022 at 5:01 PM, IronMaidenBills said:

Thank you for being a valued poster here. Can’t wait to have further statistical analysis with you. I’m glad there are still posters like you around. 

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I appreciate that.  Thanks.  And I certainly enjoy you and other posters who like to do this sort of thing.