No criminal charges for Deshaun Watson; civil deposition 3/15

[Saxum]

53 minutes ago, Bronxbomber21 said:

Watson traded to the Eagles 

 

No actual trade yet.

 

 

 

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, Bronxbomber21 said:

Watson traded to the Eagles 

 

I mean that would make him even easier to dislike. I freaking hate the Eagles. 

[TBBills]

The slogan for Philly is "The City of brotherly massages"

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

So it’s still down to Houston 

 

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David Newton ESPN Staff Writer 

 

The Carolina Panthers will make an "aggressive" offer for Deshaun Watson as soon as the Houston quarterback waives his no-trade clause for them to negotiate with the Texans, a league source told ESPN.

 

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An issue with having the clause waived is not anticipated, the source said.

 

 

Edited March 13, 2022 by SlimShady'sSpaceForce

[YoloinOhio]

 

[GunnerBill]

25 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

The Saints would be interesting. I wonder if we'd see Sean Peyton end his "retirement" after only one year if New Orleans can find a way to get Deshaun Watson and make the cap stuff work. 

[SoTier]

The Saints, Eagles or Panthers work for me.   Actually, just about any NFC team except the Cowboys works for me.   Just as long as he's out of the AFC.

[YoloinOhio]

 

[BillsShredder83]

2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

Rusty Hardon is quite the name for a slimy defense attorney lol

[billsfan1959]

Just now, BillsShredder83 said:

Rusty Hardon is quite the name for a slimy defense attorney lol

 

Based on what I have seen in the civil suit, Watson's Hardon wasn't Rusty...

[Mr. WEO]

On 3/13/2022 at 12:23 PM, GunnerBill said:

 

The Saints would be interesting. I wonder if we'd see Sean Peyton end his "retirement" after only one year if New Orleans can find a way to get Deshaun Watson and make the cap stuff work. 

 

 

Chris Simms would still rank Taysom Hill ahead of Watson...

[Mr. WEO]

4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

 

It's interesting since the grand jury and DA won't indict, he may not have the privilege to take the 5th if there is no longer a reasonable fear of incriminating himself and exposing himself to prosecution.

 

Even so, he has to defend himself or it's simply "she said (no he said)" for the jurors to hear.  Also, at trail, they may be allowed to draw a "negative inference" from his taking the 5th in deposition.

 

 

 

[without a drought]

1 hour ago, BillsShredder83 said:

Rusty Hardon is quite the name for a slimy defense attorney lol

When you're going up against Tony Buzbee, you better bring someone with the right name

[Hapless Bills Fan]

7 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said:

Rusty Hardon is quite the name for a slimy defense attorney lol

 

I thought it was an appropriate name for the lawyer defending a client alleged to have asked therapists to rub his....lawyer?

[HappyDays]

 

This would be quite the curve ball. I suppose Matt Ryan would be traded, I could see the Colts jumping on that if it becomes an option.

[YoloinOhio]

 

[RichRiderBills]

22 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

It's interesting since the grand jury and DA won't indict, he may not have the privilege to take the 5th if there is no longer a reasonable fear of incriminating himself and exposing himself to prosecution.

 

Even so, he has to defend himself or it's simply "she said (no he said)" for the jurors to hear.  Also, at trail, they may be allowed to draw a "negative inference" from his taking the 5th in deposition.

 

 

 

 

No...he is not technically Scott free from being charged criminally, especially if he disclosed new evidence in such questioning during a civil trial. He still could viably claim 5th amendment rights.

 

A declination from a GJ does not count for double Jeopardy or exclude the potential of a revised case being brought forth. 

 

I'm also guessing the offenses occured in different jurisdictions and he could be possible charged federally. 

 

It's just highly unlikely he would be charged criminally. Frankly it's easy as hell to get a GJ indictment, so if it was declined the evidence must have been horrible.

Edited March 15, 2022 by RichRiderBills

[Dablitzkrieg]

It's concerning that they had 11 witnesses ready to testify,  interviewed 1, and said,  ah ***** it.  No charges

[Mr. WEO]

15 hours ago, RichRiderBills said:

 

No...he is not technically Scott free from being charged criminally, especially if he disclosed new evidence in such questioning during a civil trial. He still could viably claim 5th amendment rights.

 

A declination from a GJ does not count for double Jeopardy or exclude the potential of a revised case being brought forth. 

 

I'm also guessing the offenses occured in different jurisdictions and he could be possible charged federally. 

 

It's just highly unlikely he would be charged criminally. Frankly it's easy as hell to get a GJ indictment, so if it was declined the evidence must have been horrible.

if he claims the 5th to all questions in deposition he can’t then testify to these same facts at trial, no? Isn’t that the “shield and the sword” rule?  
 

Aldo, what federal charges might he face?