Banged Up Bills analyzes Jameson Williams injury and recovery

[Kangaxx]

Give me a guard in the first who can play right away. I really don't want someone who is injured.

[YoloinOhio]

2 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said:

Kirk? Or too much $?

I like Kirk in the slot and as a downfield threat and as a KR, I do think he’s not as good of a YAC guy and will be $$$

[LABILLBACKER]

44 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

My dream would be signing a vet slot guy - Barrios/Crowder/Juju  in FA or trade for Lockett and then also draft a player like this. 

Agree....sign Berrios cheap and roll the dice on Jameson @ 25. You're not obligated to play him until late this season allowing the knee to fully heel. 

[BADOLBILZ]

 

"According to the Journal of Orthopedic & Sports Physical Therapy, athletes who return to sport prior to nine months following an ACL injury are at a seven-fold greater risk to suffer a future ACL tear."

 

If Williams is there at 25.........he is very likely the most potentially impactful player left on the board based on what the players have actually put on tape.........IMO he was the best player on the field in the Alabama v Georgia games.........which speaks volumes.

 

But if they take him we should be prepared for the possibility that he doesn't play in 2022.   Because even when he is ready to play he is a raw talent at the WR position and without 100% of his speed back yet he may not be better than the more refined options they may have at the position.

 

 

[dollars 2 donuts]

27 minutes ago, Magox said:

What I got out of this was the following:

...

- History says that if you try to recover to quickly before 9 months that the chances of retearing the ACL goes up by 700%

- That typically for athletes below the age of 23 (He is 20), that typically reinjure the ACL 23% of the time

...

 

 

What the FUUUUUUUUUUUDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDGGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEE?!

 

Thank yo, that's a no from me. 

 

Magox, thank you for the Cliff notes.

Edited March 9, 2022 by dollars 2 donuts

[YoloinOhio]

1 hour ago, Magox said:

What I got out of this was the following:

 

- He has no injury history

- It was a clean ACL tear which is about as good as you could hope for

- That he is ahead of schedule and recovering really well

- J Williams thinks he can be ready within 5 -7 months before training camp

- History says that if you try to recover to quickly before 9 months that the chances of retearing the ACL goes up by 700%

- That typically for athletes below the age of 23 (He is 20), that typically reinjure the ACL 23% of the time

- That even though J Williams thinks he will be a full go before training camp - The Bills may want to put him on the reserve list and that he returns sometime around halfway during the season

- That he is a good risk to take if you believe in the player

 

 

 

I don’t think there is much question that the Bills would slow play it and not rush him back. So I’m not worried about the 700% if he returns early. The 77% chance of no re-tear is decent. Not great. But a lot of players tear ACL in college and never again, and vice versa.

Edited March 9, 2022 by YoloinOhio

[julian]

1 hour ago, dpberr said:

Easy keys to Bills success IMO (alone):

 

No expensive FAs over the age of 30.

No FAs with just one great contract year of production to show you.  

No first round draftees, especially guys who rely on speed and twitch, with blown out knees, and who won't be ready to show you anything before draft day.  

No first round draftees with known chronic injuries or chronic health issues. 

No first round draftees you plan on playing out of their natural position. 

No first round draftees who have never been in shape or have a difficult time staying in football shape.  

 

Surrounding your anti Williams take with a bunch of other takes that 97% of fans would agree with… crafty

[CNY315]

34 minutes ago, TheBillsOrDie said:

That does not exist at 25

Really doesn't exist anywhere 

[Royale with Cheese]

1 hour ago, Freddie's Dead said:

Willis McGahee redux.  No thanks.

 

You might as well say Mickey Mantle.

[Draconator]

Didn't Thurman hurt his knee in college which caused his draft stock to fall? I think he turned out ok. 

[Chandler#81]

 

[YoloinOhio]

Did Jeffrey Simmons miss his whole rookie season or did he play at some point? That move really paid off for the titans and they seem to really take risks in the 1st - injury and character 

[Tanoros]

1 hour ago, Kangaxx said:

Give me a guard in the first who can play right away. I really don't want someone who is injured.

IF, there is a guard there worth taking. We really have to see how the board falls, there are several good options at multiple positions, just depends on who it is, but we can’t be locked into a specific position.  A guard in the first has to be more than a day 1 starter, they need to be someone who could potential play center down the road. 
 

There are just so many good wr’s this draft, that I’d prefer to stay away from Williams. Hopefully he is selected before us, helping to push one more player down the board. 

[Augie]

2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

That was 20 years ago - ACL recovery has come a long way 

 

AND, the McGahee injury was much more severe. I seem to recall that 20 years before THAT they might have considered amputation! 

 

My son tore his ACL and MCL about 10 years ago and had surgery on June 24 (same day Tiger Woods had his ACL surgery). He played in a Thanksgiving high school basketball tournament about 5 months later. Not 100% certainly, but he was out there. What they can do now is AMAZING!

 

The big problem with McGahee was not the knee or the player, it was the person. 

[H2o]

2 hours ago, aristocrat said:

 

Willis tore his acl pcl and mcl. This guy had just a clean acl injury

Yeah, that knee was shredded and he still had a decent career. 

[buffaloboyinATL]

2 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said:

Willis McGahee redux.  No thanks.

The injuries were very different. 
 

Todd McShay currently has us taking Jameson Willians in his mock 3.0. 

Edited March 9, 2022 by buffaloboyinATL

[ControllerOfPlanetX]

If Olave and Williams are both there at 25?

 

[Turbo44]

7 minutes ago, ControllerOfPlanetX said:

If Olave and Williams are both there at 25?

 

I take Olave, though I’d be thrilled if either we’re there

[Orlando Buffalo]

3 hours ago, Magox said:

What I got out of this was the following:

 

- He has no injury history

- It was a clean ACL tear which is about as good as you could hope for

- That he is ahead of schedule and recovering really well

- J Williams thinks he can be ready within 5 -7 months before training camp

- History says that if you try to recover to quickly before 9 months that the chances of retearing the ACL goes up by 700%

- That typically for athletes below the age of 23 (He is 20), that typically reinjure the ACL 23% of the time

- That even though J Williams thinks he will be a full go before training camp - The Bills may want to put him on the reserve list and that he returns sometime around halfway during the season

- That he is a good risk to take if you believe in the player

 

 

 

I doubt he is available at 25 but if he is you have to consider him, he is a great player.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

5 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said:

Willis McGahee redux.  No thanks.

Willis had a great career