Packers and Rodgers agree to deal. 4 year 200 million

[LeGOATski]

22 minutes ago, ßookie_tech said:

Yeah a lot of 1st rounders fail, or bust, especially QBs.  But to draft a player that you are not going to use for 5 years is just a waste. I think they even traded up. In theory, I guess that had to prepare for life after Aaron Rodgers. I'm not saying Love is or is going to be a bust, but the pick itself is looking like a bust so far. But who knows, Love might step in 4 or 5 years down the road and light the league on fire and then the pick is genius lol. 

He is a bust so far, but I can't fault the Packers for it. It was a CYA move. And he was pick 26. They traded a 4th to move up from 30. Not like he was a top ten pick.

[Chicken Boo]

1 hour ago, LeGOATski said:

No brainer

 

Without a doubt.  

 

The man threw 4 INTs all year and had 2 in the first game of the season.  

 

I don't care what anyone says, Rodgers is the best QB I've ever seen.

[Big Turk]

Allen looking like a bargain right now.

Just now, Chicken Boo said:

 

Without a doubt.  

 

The man threw 4 INTs all year and had 2 in the first game of the season.  

 

I don't care what anyone says, Rodgers is the best QB I've ever seen.

Until he gets to the playoffs and goes into a safe shell playing not to lose.

[djp14150]

1 hour ago, filthymcnasty08 said:

Good for Aaron, must mean Adams is staying put as well.

 

GB going to be a hard "out" in the NFC.

 

Can see a GB/Bills SB scenario next year.

At $50M you can’t afford everyone else….

[Albany,n.y.]

50 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said:

All Jordan ever was - was a safety net.  The Pack protected themselves and now in a bad QB draft year - they can work to trade him to a QB needy team. 
 

They lose a bit of capital, but it protected them in case this played out different.  In a deep WR class - this might get them another potential WR to help.

 

This is the perfect year to try and trade Love - lots of open jobs and few viable legitimate options.

 

As for the Bills - so glad we got Allen in before this off season. This deal should drive up Carr, Cousin, and Stafford and by extension - Lamar, Mayfield, Burrow, and Murray.

 

🎉

 

 

 

Jordan Love hasn't shown enough for any team to be interested in trading for him.  GB doesn't have to do anything with him until the 2023 season.  Right now, their best option is to keep him for another season & figure a way, either in preseason or a season finale with a locked in playoff spot, to increase his market value because right now it isn't much.  Plus they would have to find a new backup QB.  

 

No matter how bad this year's class is, none of them has played as poorly in the NFL as Love has.  

[Chicken Boo]

1 minute ago, Big Turk said:

Allen looking like a bargain right now.

Until he gets to the playoffs and goes into a safe shell playing not to lose.

 

Can't hit every year.  He's usually a stud in playoffs and the defense let's him down.  I think in 7 of his 10 playoff losses the Packers defense has given up 31 or more points.  There's a couple 40-50 point games in there as well.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

1 hour ago, MrEpsYtown said:

Big splash! See, everyone worrying about cap space, there is a way around all this stuff. 

[Big Turk]

8 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said:

 

Can't hit every year.  He's usually a stud in playoffs and the defense let's him down.  I think in 7 of his 10 playoff losses the Packers defense has given up 31 or more points.  There's a couple 40-50 point games in there as well.

 

Ehh, I've watched him enough in the playoffs and he comes up empty in those games more often than not.

 

Nobody I am taking over Allen in the playoffs. All time leader in payoff QB rating and elevates his game when it matters most.

Edited March 8, 2022 by Big Turk

[Fan in Chicago]

8 minutes ago, djp14150 said:

At $50M you can’t afford everyone else….

Is he going to continue complaining about his lack of weapons? GB loves its drama queen and hoping that those extra dollars can be shoved into his mouth to keep it from uttering words. 

As others have pointed out, Love must have looked really bad in practice for their FO to bend over and pay Rodgers

[Jerry Jabber]

49 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

   Ya gotta remember, the owners are so freaking rich with revenue sources, (and not just from football) it doesn’t really matter to them,  the league is the owners/the owners are the league.
 

   The NFL is owned by 32 owners groups/ partners. They are richer beyond one hundred lifetimes worth of income of any of us here. It’s a whole different financial world that the owners live in. 

Sure, the owners are filthy rich, but the NFL does not give teams an unlimited amount of money to spend on their team every year. I listened to Brandon Beane this morning on WGR talk about how the Bills are currently over the salary cap and have to figure out ways to not only get under the cap, but have money to sign their own UFA’s and their upcoming draft class. There’s no doubt Rodgers is a great QB, but is $50M a year worth it for a player who still holds a grudge against his team for drafting a QB in the first round instead of getting him help at WR?! Sure, Rodgers wins a lot of games, it also helps having to play twice a year against a mediocre Vikings team, a Bears team (who were mediocre up until this past year, now they suck) and a perennial loser in the Lions. Spending that much on a 38 year old who’s still mad at his own team is not a wise move. Packers will never get over the hump and make it back to the Superbowl with moves like this (NFC Championship game at best).

Edited March 8, 2022 by Jerry Jabber

[Albany,n.y.]

51 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

A lot of 1st round picks are wasted. Isn't it something like a 50% fail rate and even higher for QBs?

Last year I did a 20 year study of QBs by round.  I don't think I included 2020's QB class which would bump up the top 10 numbers a bit with Burrow & Herbert. Here were my findings with the success %:

Top 10 53%

Rest of 1st round: 36%

2nd round: 24%

3rd round 17%

4th round 10%

5th round 0% (over 30 busts, the last 5th round success was in the 1990s)

6th round: 10%

7th round: 5%

[DrDawkinstein]

15 minutes ago, djp14150 said:

At $50M you can’t afford everyone else….

 

They're saving money and freeing cap space with this deal, and Josh will be making $51M in a couple years, so...

[thenorthremembers]

1 hour ago, aristocrat said:

 

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/aaron-rodgers-career-playoff-stats

 

Wins aren't a qb stat. Crap defenses. 

If wins arent a QB stat, why do the best QBs always have the most wins?

[Jerry Jabber]

45 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said:

One game further than Bills made it last year. Glass houses...

Exactly. Rodgers is twice the QB Cousins is and yet the salaries are not that far apart

One game further? And how were the final 13 seconds of the Bills/Chiefs game on Allen and the offense? I don’t think Allen told Bass to boot the kickoff in the end zone or told the defense to rush four and not double cover Hill and Kelce. The only reason Rodgers won a Superbowl was the GB defense as they intercepted Rapistburger twice, otherwise, Steelers would have won that game.

Edited March 8, 2022 by Jerry Jabber

[Alphadawg7]

1 hour ago, MrEpsYtown said:

Big splash! See, everyone worrying about cap space, there is a way around all this stuff. 

Yeah because they gave him all that money up front.  Harder to do with a younger player still on the rise.  

[Jerry Jabber]

1 hour ago, billsfan1959 said:

 

You left out winning 70% of their games with him over his career, and over 80% of their games the last three years....

Sure, in a mediocre division. Vikings and Bears, meh. Lions… perennial losers.

[NewEra]

Great news for the AFC.
 

Watson to the NFC hopefully up next 🙏🏻 

[Norcalbillsfan]

Actually great news for bills. Not only Rodgers not in AFC. But it makes it much more likely broncos steelers go QB in draft, that's 2 more quality players that could fall to bills.

[cle23]

30 minutes ago, djp14150 said:

At $50M you can’t afford everyone else….

 

His cap number for 2022 went down.

[FilthyBeast]

Not necessarily a shocking move. Franchise QB's don't grow on trees and it makes sense for both parties to stick together and try and win another SB during Rogers twilight years.