Falcons WR Calvin Ridley suspended indefinitely(but at minimum the entire 2022 season) for betting on games

[Buffalo_Stampede]

6 minutes ago, mjpbills said:

Lifetime ban would send a message.

That's a bit harsh on a 1st offense. 1 year suspension is pretty strong. 2nd offense should be a lifetime ban.

Edited March 8, 2022 by Buffalo_Stampede

[mjpbills]

It worked on pete rose.

[stuvian]

having a team in LV will go swell 

[Big Turk]

2 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

That's a bit harsh on a 1st offense. 1 year suspension is pretty strong. 2nd offense should be a lifetime ban.

 

Especially since he wasn't even actively playing at the time.

[Billy Claude]

I don't understand how it is legal for an gambling company to report him to the NFL.   I assume if I go to Florida, make a bet on the app and they won't be reported to my employer.  Is there something in the CBA that the players have to sign off on?

[LeviF]

Pete Rose has a lifetime ban. Based on that precedent alone the NFL will at least consider not letting him play again.

 

5 minutes ago, Billy Claude said:

I don't understand how it is legal for an gambling company to report him to the NFL.   I assume if I go to Florida, make a bet on the app and they won't be reported to my employer.  Is there something in the CBA that the players have to sign off on?

 

When you open an account you submit to all of their terms and conditions. They can share your information with the government, contracted monitoring companies, etc. One of said companies is contracted by the NFL to investigate possible violations of league rules w/r/t NFL players/staff betting.

 

Odds are your employer doesn't give a damn whether you gamble so long as 1) it doesn't affect your work product and 2) you aren't using company information to do so. The problem with Calvin Ridley is while he might not have been playing, how sure can we be about 2? How can the books and the shield assure their customers that this is all on the up and up?

[ROCBillsBeliever]

17 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

Bring him in!  Just hide him under the SJF bleachers with Russ Brandon. 😁

 

As if the concept of Russ Brandon weren't creepy enough, ya had to go and let me know that he's lurking under the SJF bleachers? God... Now I can't even go to training camp 😭

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

Just now, ROCBillsBeliever said:

 

As if the concept of Russ Brandon weren't creepy enough, ya had to go and let me know that he's lurking under the SJF bleachers? God... Now I can't even go to training camp 😭

Unless you're a younger woman in a skirt, you'll probably be relatively safe.

[Big Turk]

1 hour ago, Billy Claude said:

I don't understand how it is legal for an gambling company to report him to the NFL.   I assume if I go to Florida, make a bet on the app and they won't be reported to my employer.  Is there something in the CBA that the players have to sign off on?

 

I would assume so

[Buffalo_Stampede]

2 hours ago, Big Turk said:

 

Especially since he wasn't even actively playing at the time.

Still under contract though. Rules are rules. 

[That's No Moon]

10 hours ago, Turk71 said:

It not a huge market but people can place bets on certain sites for WWE matches.

So you'd agree the market for betting on a known predetermined event is much smaller than the gambling market for an actual sport?

[ROCBillsBeliever]

3 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

Unless you're a younger woman in a skirt, you'll probably be relatively safe.

 

Fair enough, LOL!

 

 

Edited March 8, 2022 by ROCBillsBeliever

[Bill from NYC]

On 3/7/2022 at 4:06 PM, Albany,n.y. said:

What if a player's wife bets on the games instead of the player?  Father, mother, brother, sister, etc.  A player can have others place his bets & say he knows nothing about it.  How would they prove anything?  

Smart players who want to put bets in will have others making their bets for them.  

You make a great point there Harvey. 

 

I am NOT going to make excuses for this dumb decision but the truth is, Ridley was placed in foster care for years. His father abandoned the family and his mom was said to have issues. I'm not sure that he has a family member that he can trust or turn to. At Alabama, he (and other players) had Coach Saban to keep them under control.

 

Ridley btw is an excellent player. I have seen comments saying that Alabama players tend to be overrated and play well because of the system and the talent around them. This is usually far from the truth. What admittedly IS a problem is how some of these kids handle themselves when they no longer have to answer to Saban. I have seen Saban toss the top college prospects in the country off the team if they act out. A kid named Antonio Alfano might have been the #1 rated player in H.S. at one point. He came to camp and lit it up in spring practice and the famous "A" Game. He started acting out and Saban threw him right off of the team. The truth is that if you get kicked off of the Crimson Tide, it is bound to cost you millions of dollars. 

 

I have been seeing FAR to many of these Alabama kids get weird when they get away from Saban and to the NFL, to include Ridley, Dareus, Ruggs, and Reuben Foster. All of them were headed for greatness and seemingly tossed it away.

 

Do you remember Foster? I truly believe that he would have been the best LB in the NFL if he didn't get himself in all of that trouble. He could cover, he was lightning fast, strong as a bull and mean as a snake. Do we think that Fournette is a tough guy? He is but check this out.....

 

 

[nucci]

Major NFL suspensions:

Ray Rice: beating fiancé; 2 games
Adrian Peterson: felony child abuse; 6 games
Greg Hardy: beating gf; 10 games reduced to 4
Ezekiel Elliot: hitting women; 6 games

Calvin Ridley: 17 games for using FanDuel
Josh Gordon: 6 seasons for smoking weed

[MrEpsYtown]

10 minutes ago, nucci said:

Major NFL suspensions:

Ray Rice: beating fiancé; 2 games
Adrian Peterson: felony child abuse; 6 games
Greg Hardy: beating gf; 10 games reduced to 4
Ezekiel Elliot: hitting women; 6 games

Calvin Ridley: 17 games for using FanDuel
Josh Gordon: 6 seasons for smoking weed

 

You can literally run someone over with your car and go to jail for a year or two. Tax evasion? You are going away for a long time. 

 

These are just weird incongruities. 

[MPT]

On 3/7/2022 at 4:11 PM, That's No Moon said:

You absolutely 100% cannot have even a sliver of doubt about the sanctity of the result of a game.  Once you do your product is finished. Ridley is lucky to only get a year IMO.

 

Somebody tell that to NFL officiating please.

[nucci]

On 3/8/2022 at 6:14 AM, mjpbills said:

Lifetime ban would send a message.

what message....have someone else place your bets?

[Not at the table Karlos]

On 3/8/2022 at 6:14 AM, mjpbills said:

Lifetime ban would send a message.

What's that message? Do as the NFL says not as they do?

On 3/7/2022 at 4:11 PM, That's No Moon said:

You absolutely 100% cannot have even a sliver of doubt about the sanctity of the result of a game.  Once you do your product is finished. Ridley is lucky to only get a year IMO.

We're well past slivers of doubt in the sanctity if the result of a game. League is still going strong. 

[LeviF]

10 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

What's that message? Do as the NFL says not as they do?

 

 

There's one rule. Don't bet on sports. Especially don't bet on your own sport. This has been drilled into him since his first week as a student-athlete at Alabama. 

[Buffalo716]

On 3/9/2022 at 11:07 AM, Bill from NYC said:

You make a great point there Harvey. 

 

I am NOT going to make excuses for this dumb decision but the truth is, Ridley was placed in foster care for years. His father abandoned the family and his mom was said to have issues. I'm not sure that he has a family member that he can trust or turn to. At Alabama, he (and other players) had Coach Saban to keep them under control.

 

Ridley btw is an excellent player. I have seen comments saying that Alabama players tend to be overrated and play well because of the system and the talent around them. This is usually far from the truth. What admittedly IS a problem is how some of these kids handle themselves when they no longer have to answer to Saban. I have seen Saban toss the top college prospects in the country off the team if they act out. A kid named Antonio Alfano might have been the #1 rated player in H.S. at one point. He came to camp and lit it up in spring practice and the famous "A" Game. He started acting out and Saban threw him right off of the team. The truth is that if you get kicked off of the Crimson Tide, it is bound to cost you millions of dollars. 

 

I have been seeing FAR to many of these Alabama kids get weird when they get away from Saban and to the NFL, to include Ridley, Dareus, Ruggs, and Reuben Foster. All of them were headed for greatness and seemingly tossed it away.

 

Do you remember Foster? I truly believe that he would have been the best LB in the NFL if he didn't get himself in all of that trouble. He could cover, he was lightning fast, strong as a bull and mean as a snake. Do we think that Fournette is a tough guy? He is but check this out.....

 

 

NFL is full of shoulda coulda woulda 

 

Saban like most college coaches are de facto rulers.. they run the show so there's not much foolery going on opposed to NFL

 

They treat them like kids because they're kids.. no weekends out in Vegas or anything like that

 

When they leave and go to the NFL.. the NFL doesn't babysit them like saban.. the league treats them like adults

 

Then their true being starts to shine when they're not getting babysitted 24 hours a day for four seasons... They didn't get weird after they left Alabama

 

They always had it in them and Nick Saban controls them.. you don't get controlled in the NFL 

 

 

Edited March 10, 2022 by Buffalo716