Stafford / Cousins both looking for new $40-45 million / yr contracts

[PonyBoy]

2 hours ago, Mark Vader said:

Isn't Kyler Murray asking for 70+ already?

 

Is that including playing for the A's as well?? 😀

[Magox]

At the time of the signing I thought the Allen deal was a complete steal for the organization, now I think it's just ridiculously low.

 

What a great deal for the Bills and you know what?  Allen won't be salty about it one bit.   He is all about the Bills winning championships.

[Shaw66]

1 hour ago, Virgil said:

 

Yeah, but think about inflation.  He's got to be able to feed his wife and kids

He could feed Travis Henry's family, even with inflation.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

3 minutes ago, Magox said:

At the time of the signing I thought the Allen deal was a complete steal for the organization, now I think it's just ridiculously low.

 

What a great deal for the Bills and you know what?  Allen won't be salty about it one bit.   He is all about the Bills winning championships.

Geez, now you've got me thinking WE need a GoFundMe to 'top up' JA#17. 🥺

[That's No Moon]

2 hours ago, Billzgobowlin said:

This is going to be unsustainable.  With a cap of 200 million how can you justify a 1/5 to a 1/4 of team just to one player, let alone if the person gets injured

because without that one player you cant win.  you can have 21 other amazing players. without a QB you aren't going to win.

[JaCrispy]

2 hours ago, Augie said:

I’m glad we signed Josh early, thereby saving serious money. I know how crazy that sounds given the size of his deal, but it’s true. Now, let’s do the same with Diggs. 

 

These guys who think that just because they are NEXT means they should get the MOST, might just be correct to an insane degree. I’ll take Josh over these guys all day long. 

Can you imagine trying to give him an extension after the last two games he played?!?! We certainly lucked out on that one....

 

Beane gambled and it paid off...👍

[H2o]

3 hours ago, Inigo Montoya said:

The QB contract inflation continues...

 

Here's a blurb about Stafford that mentions Cousins; 

 

https://www.nbcsportsedge.com/football/nfl/player/2679/matthew-stafford

 

Here's a link to an article about the Cousin's negotiations;  

 

https://www.marca.com/en/nfl/minnesota-vikings/2022/03/05/6222ba8246163f53b78b456f.html

 

It is expected to be a 3-4 year deal for Stafford.  Makes Josh's 6 year extension at an average of  $42 million a year look better every day.  I think this is going to be a recurring theme as more and more QBs take their turn at the NFL QB money trough.

 

 

 

Inflation bruh, times are hard.

[Augie]

12 minutes ago, JaCrispy said:

Can you imagine trying to give him an extension after the last two games he played?!?! We certainly lucked out on that one....

 

Beane gambled and it paid off...👍

 

I know it’s unpopular (and extremely painful), but that last game vs the Chiefs might have been the best football game I’ve ever witnessed. Josh to Gabe just kept getting better and better. But then…..  😱

 

You have to be able to put the ending aside, but even that just goes to make it more memorable. Hopefully, a few Super Bowl trophies from now, we will look back on that game as the the last step of our growing into a truly Championship team. 

[Don Otreply]

Who in their right mind pays Cousins a penny more than he makes now? he has proven to be a stat padding low success type, like Dak…, both under achievers for what they get paid.
There are a bunch of under achieving QB that should absolutely not get paid more, Kyler Murray, cough cough, Baker Mayfield, etc etc.
 

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

4 hours ago, Inigo Montoya said:

The QB contract inflation continues...

 

Here's a blurb about Stafford that mentions Cousins; 

 

https://www.nbcsportsedge.com/football/nfl/player/2679/matthew-stafford

 

Here's a link to an article about the Cousin's negotiations;  

 

https://www.marca.com/en/nfl/minnesota-vikings/2022/03/05/6222ba8246163f53b78b456f.html

 

It is expected to be a 3-4 year deal for Stafford.  Makes Josh's 6 year extension at an average of  $42 million a year look better every day.  I think this is going to be a recurring theme as more and more QBs take their turn at the NFL QB money trough.

 

 

 

Stafford can make the argument 

 

Mr “You Like That” can’t 

[Mango]

I really like Stafford, but....

At this point in his career, $40-45M? He just isn't that guy.

 

The list of guys in the NFL today worth $45M per based on a $208M salary cap is very short. Allen, Mahomes, Rodgers. Those are the only guys I don't hesitate with. I have Herbert and Burrow as a coin flip as to whether you gambled that kind  money this early. 

[Albany,n.y.]

3 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

There were a lot of people on TSW who were all about Kirk Cousins in 2016-2017.

The drum beat reached it's highest level in winter 2018 when we were sitting at 21 & 22 and they thought we should sign Cousins for mega bucks & use our draft picks on other positions.  Every time I'd see a sign Cousins thread I'd scream NO multiple times at the computer.

 

Cousins has always looked better on paper than on the field.  That's why he never wins enough games.  

[DCofNC]

I wouldn’t pay either of them that.  Stafford was not great this year, yet he got it done.  He’s a fringe top 10 guy, right there with Cousins.  So I get why people would be interested in having a guy like that to get them over the hump, but you have to have a helluva team to be “just a QB away”.   I don’t know if the Rams really have a choice, they gave up the farm to get him, that would be too much to have him there for a short time, even if he did get the ring.  I don’t think anybody that needs a QB would be considered instant contenders with Cousins.  
 

The only situation where I see a team that’s just a QB away from being a serious contender is Indy.  Cousins would be a great fit for them and in theory, they could make his demands work.. kinda hope they don’t haha. 

[Shaw66]

1 hour ago, Don Otreply said:

Who in their right mind pays Cousins a penny more than he makes now? he has proven to be a stat padding low success type, like Dak…, both under achievers for what they get paid.
 

I never thought about those two in the same sentence, but it's perfect.   They are underachievers.  

 

If you're a KC fan, if you're a Bills fan, if you're a Packers fan, if you were a Saints fan, with the game on the line, you think, "my QB's got this."  If you're a Cowboys fan or a Vikings fan, you think, "come on, man, get the job done this time."   Their good numbers don't add up to great quarterbacking. 

[Mikie2times]

If each year the % of money allocated to each position rises, then it would seem like the only reason to not rush signing extensions would be player health and desire to take advantage of rookie contracts. Buffalo has been exceptional in this area, specifically with Josh. His deal will feel like a discount in a few years. Tre being a potential example of why you wait, but how can we really say this? Do you risk alienating a player and build a bad culture by always milking the rookie deal as long as possible? Some teams do. This brings me to an interesting hypothetical. Say they never extended White, activated his 5th year option, and he suffers this injury. What do you do now? I imagine we would have franchised him with no injury if we went with the above. No idea what would happen now. 

Edited March 8, 2022 by KzooMike

[Donuts and Doritos]

Any GM that even dreams about paying Cousins that kind of $ needs to be fired when they wake up. He's overpaid as it is.

[Norcalbillsfan]

6 hours ago, Augie said:

I’m glad we signed Josh early, thereby saving serious money. I know how crazy that sounds given the size of his deal, but it’s true. Now, let’s do the same with Diggs. 

 

These guys who think that just because they are NEXT means they should get the MOST, might just be correct to an insane degree. I’ll take Josh over these guys all day long. 

The ravens are probably seeing this sweating bullets.

[Augie]

2 minutes ago, Norcalbillsfan said:

The ravens are probably seeing this sweating bullets.

 

True, and they have a much tougher call to make. He’s NOT Josh, and he missed the end of last season…..for the exact reason we all suspected he’d miss time. Hope the price of QB’s keeps rising, now that we have OURS! Cripple those rosters with cap problems! 

[nucci]

4 hours ago, Magox said:

At the time of the signing I thought the Allen deal was a complete steal for the organization, now I think it's just ridiculously low.

 

What a great deal for the Bills and you know what?  Allen won't be salty about it one bit.   He is all about the Bills winning championships.

until 2-3 years from now when he'll be considered underpaid

[Behindenemylines]

7 hours ago, NewEra said:

Kirk cousins making 40M+

Get ‘er done Beane as Joshs’ backup

7 hours ago, TheFunPolice said:

Cousins is elite at making money in his career. Guy has banked $161 million already for being totally mediocre. 

 

Hey, good for him. It's a business, as we're often told.

As a Harvard Grad I would hope by those standards Fitzy has made $250M

7 hours ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

Baker will be lucky if he gets 20. Lamar can make somewhat of an argument because he won MVP his second year. 

But Lamar wants to be a Billionaire.  He needs to be paid so he can be one.  If only he would talk with the team actually trying to pay him?