Britney Griner

[TSOL]

4 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said:

Because everyone is celebrating and it's disgusting. It's all over the news today like this is something good. We set an international arms dealer free in exchange for a tall drug addict who hates the US.

 

Just remember that if it was you, nobody would care because you aren't a 7 foot lesbian who can play basketball. We would never hear from you again.

 

 

Dang dude, that's funny 😂 

And cold! 

 

It's true, but it's cold.

 

And funny 😂

 

7 ft tall lesbian 🤣🤣🤣

[Tiberius]

6 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said:

Because everyone is celebrating and it's disgusting. It's all over the news today like this is something good. We set an international arms dealer free in exchange for a tall drug addict who hates the US.

 

Just remember that if it was you, nobody would care because you aren't a 7 foot lesbian who can play basketball. We would never hear from you again.

Oh brother 

[BillsFanNC]

 

 

[TSOL]

2 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Oh brother 

 

 

Could you imagine, the special kind of thought processes it would take, as and American. In today's geo political climate. 

 

To get on a plane to Russia. 

 

With weed in your luggage.

 

That's special. 

 

Extra special 

 

[Chef Jim]

8 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

Why do you hate yourself so much?

Do you agree this was an equitable exchange?  
 

I thought you hated guns. 

Edited December 8, 2022 by Chef Jim

[Tiberius]

4 minutes ago, TSOL said:

 

 

Could you imagine, the special kind of thought processes it would take, as and American. In today's geo political climate. 

 

To get on a plane to Russia. 

 

With weed in your luggage.

 

That's special. 

 

Extra special 

 

Oh, it was stupid. Not as stupid as stealing top secret documents from the WH, but stupid still 

[BillStime]

3 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

Do you agree this was an equitable exchange?  
 

I thought you hated guns. 

 

You make the trade that’s on the table and bring an American home

[TSOL]

Just now, Tiberius said:

Oh, it was stupid. Not as stupid as stealing top secret documents from the WH, but stupid still 

 

 

Deflection?

 

She was traded for an international arms dealer. 

 

That being said, America doesn't leave its own behind (for the most part) and I'm happy for that. 

[BillyBilliams]

My biggest issue with this is the fact that an American Marine, who was wrongfully convicted of espionage, that the United States has also admitted was a wrongful conviction is staying in jail to rot.  Griner was not wrongfully detained.  She did bring an illegal substance into the country, admitted to it, and pled guilty.  Do I think her punishment is harsh and wouldn't be as bad if she wasn't a prominent figure in the United States?  Absolutely.  However, she should have been put on the backburner before Paul Whelan got released.  I guess he wasn't woke enough.  I'm also no longer interested in Biden or anybody associated with this deal to ever talk about gun control again.  Viktor Bout is nicknamed the "Merchant of Death" for a reason.  

[BillStime]

9 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

 

 

No word from Julie?

[Chef Jim]

6 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Oh, it was stupid. Not as stupid as stealing top secret documents from the WH, but stupid still 

Also not as stupid as bringing up Trump and the classified documents into this discussion. 

[BillStime]

1 minute ago, BillyBilliams said:

My biggest issue with this is the fact that an American Marine, who was wrongfully convicted of espionage, that the United States has also admitted was a wrongful conviction is staying in jail to rot.  Griner was not wrongfully detained.  She did bring an illegal substance into the country, admitted to it, and pled guilty.  Do I think her punishment is harsh and wouldn't be as bad if she wasn't a prominent figure in the United States?  Absolutely.  However, she should have been put on the backburner before Paul Whelan got released.  I guess he wasn't woke enough.  I'm also no longer interested in Biden or anybody associated with this deal to ever talk about gun control again.  Viktor Bout is nicknamed the "Merchant of Death" for a reason.  

 

It's too bad Russia wasn't willing to release both but remind us - what year did Paul Whelan get arrested in Russia?

[BillyBilliams]

1 minute ago, BillStime said:

 

It's too bad Russia wasn't willing to release both but remind us - what year did Paul Whelan get arrested in Russia?

 

He got detained in 2018 and got a 16 year sentence in 2020.  He's been detained for 4 years and has 12 years to go.  I understand they weren't willing to do a 2 for 1, and it makes sense.  However, they wanted Bout back really bad.  I'm going to assume they were offered one or the other, and Biden & co chose Griner.

[BillStime]

Just now, BillyBilliams said:

 

He got detained in 2018 and got a 16 year sentence in 2020.  He's been detained for 4 years and has 12 years to go.  I understand they weren't willing to do a 2 for 1, and it makes sense.  However, they wanted Bout back really bad.  I'm going to assume they were offered one or the other, and Biden & co chose Griner.

 

And who was POTUS in 2018?

 

[Chef Jim]

7 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

You make the trade that’s on the table and bring an American home

No you don’t. You negotiate an equitable swap or walk away from the negotiations.  

Just now, BillStime said:

 

And who was POTUS in 2018?

 

🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🙄

[BillStime]

4 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

No you don’t. You negotiate an equitable swap or walk away from the negotiations.  

🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🙄

 

Yep, how dare Biden not do what Trump had two full years to do on his own watch?

 

Idiots

 

[BillyBilliams]

3 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

And who was POTUS in 2018?

 

 

How is that relevant?  Negotiations didn't start until this year.  But if you are trying with the "gotcha" moment, I believe if there was a swap to make at that time, I believe it should have happened.  Viktor Bout is one of the most dangerous men on the face of this Earth.  I think the return the US got was significantly underwhelming.

[BillStime]

Just now, BillyBilliams said:

 

How is that relevant?  Negotiations didn't start until this year.  But if you are trying with the "gotcha" moment, I believe if there was a swap to make at that time, I believe it should have happened.  Viktor Bout is one of the most dangerous men on the face of this Earth.  I think the return the US got was significantly underwhelming.

 

Why didn't Trump get Paul Whelan home?

[BillyBilliams]

3 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

Why didn't Trump get Paul Whelan home?

 

Why does that matter?  Why are you worrying about Trump?  The deal was done today.  The same reason why Obama didn't close down GITMO (his campaign promise).  There potentially could have not been a deal to be made.  He could have also thought that Viktor Bout was too dangerous to want to be set free.  You need to look at context.  This isn't hard to figure out.  The Russians gave the United States a lesbian, black, WNBA player that beat her wife, and brought illegal vape canabis oil to their country, and plead guilty.  They traded an international arms dealer that would sell advanced weapons to people in civil wars (many times sold them to both sides of the conflicts/wars).  How is that remotely an even trade?  What makes you think he won't do this again, but this time in the comfort of his home in Russia?

[T&C]

9 minutes ago, BillyBilliams said:

 

How is that relevant?  Negotiations didn't start until this year.  But if you are trying with the "gotcha" moment, I believe if there was a swap to make at that time, I believe it should have happened.  Viktor Bout is one of the most dangerous men on the face of this Earth.  I think the return the US got was significantly underwhelming.

It's like we traded a gold coin for a carnival token.