ToGoGo Posted March 4, 2022 Posted March 4, 2022 2 hours ago, T master said: Hey a Boss has to be a boss sometimes & in todays very sensitive world in which we live does this really surprise any one that there is a few people that could be whining because they have their boss telling them to get off their a** & do their job or change how they are doing it to what he wants ? I think not & i'd say given the way the team has been going keep up the good work McD & let the wimps fall to the way side & go work for someone else ! If you don't like the heat get out of the kitchen !! Thank you. I trust nobody more than McDermott to call out the hanger-ons. My guess is he had some very true words for a lot of people after the Chiefs debacle. That's when these leaks started happening. 1 Quote
Warcodered Posted March 4, 2022 Posted March 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, Cray51 said: I read the article from Dunne - it screams of little child syndrome more than anything. McD took accountability for the choke job in the playoffs several times both immediately after and weeks after the game. What more accountability does someone realistically expect? Do we want him to go second by second pointing fingers at everyone/anyone who may have played a part in the breakdown? Let's live in reality here. When you write lines like "You can't clap your way through this loss" I dont really know how you can be taken seriously. It's fandom writing and not journalism. Yeah that was the point where I was like "Oh this is one of those." Quote
hondo in seattle Posted March 4, 2022 Posted March 4, 2022 2 hours ago, 4_kidd_4 said: https://www.golongtd.com/p/it-was-a-bad-bad-situation?s=r “You preach accountability,” one player said. “But you don’t practice it.” 53 players, 53 opinions. And McD publicly takes accountability for everything. I've never heard him deflect and say, "It's not me. I'm doing a great job. It's my stupid players and idiot assistants who cost us the game." He might not have publicly said he screwed up the call. And maybe he didn't. We just don't know because nobody's really talking about it. But he has always taken accountability for the final score of every game. 5 1 Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted March 4, 2022 Posted March 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Coaches don't execute plays. .....this is true, but they do execute decisions. They call plays. If the plays put the team in a poor position to succeed then their execution should be criticized. It's not like this is the first or second time he's struggled in a high leverage (playoff) situation. Love everything about McD except this. Quote
GoBills808 Posted March 4, 2022 Posted March 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Dr. K said: One of the quotes in that article cites is a player saying "You don't get over a game like that." Duh. No kidding Sherlock. This quote says nothing about McDermott or anybody else. The writer just sticks it into his innuendo so that in that context it LOOKS LIKE it supports his implications about McDermott. That's what I mean when I say this is written like a 1956 Hollywood Confidential gossip column. It's adolescent BS pretending to be journalism. My thoughts exactly. It takes a very low opinion of your readership to publish this kind of nonsense. Quote
Mr. WEO Posted March 4, 2022 Posted March 4, 2022 16 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: .....this is true, but they do execute decisions. They call plays. If the plays put the team in a poor position to succeed then their execution should be criticized. It's not like this is the first or second time he's struggled in a high leverage (playoff) situation. Love everything about McD except this. yeah he’s not the best field general, but the Tyler Dunn article also says he never really disused this in the days after the game—even with the players in private. One player was quoted regarding perceptions of responsibility. This guy is no stranger. He knows the Bills 1 Quote
JoeF Posted March 4, 2022 Posted March 4, 2022 This team should have been a Super Bowl winner. If this was a communication problem among the staff, it needs to get fixed because this team will be in pressure situations in elimination games for the foreseeable future. I don't know if you can ever take enough responsibility for what in some players minds was blowing their shot at a ring. I am sure it will be discussed and dealt with internally and I don't really care to know the whole story. This team has a strong and diverse player leadership- Morse, Dawkins, Allen, Diggs, Harry, Edmunds, Hyde, Poyer, White, etc. These guys will make it right internally. I love Coach, but there better be vast improvement in strategy and communication when the Bills face a similar situation. Opportunities to win it all in the NFL are narrow and fleeting. The Bills as a whole need to better at grasping the opportunity with confidence and certainty rather than failing to communicate. This scenario should have been one that was played out not just on paper but in preparation and practice. That there were errors borders on being inexcusable. But hey, we are Bills fans-- we are resilient -- this staff won't make the same mistake twice. 1 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted March 4, 2022 Posted March 4, 2022 18 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: My thoughts exactly. It takes a very low opinion of your readership to publish this kind of nonsense. why? If these are the things players are saying, why is it nonsense? Why wouldn’t the readership be interested in hearing this? TD put this article out there because he thinks Bills fans who follow him are dumb? 1 Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 4, 2022 Posted March 4, 2022 Has anyone read the whole story by Dunne? Can they give a breakdown? 1 Quote
turftoe Posted March 4, 2022 Posted March 4, 2022 Tyler Dunne probably spent too much time with Jerry Sullivan. He writes like him. Snarky, looking to create a controversy, outsider looking in and reporting as such. No real substance. 1 1 1 Quote
Saxum Posted March 4, 2022 Posted March 4, 2022 3 hours ago, BillsMafi$ said: Same story which has been circulating around to find legs. Been posted several times. Quote
GoBills808 Posted March 4, 2022 Posted March 4, 2022 11 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: why? If these are the things players are saying, why is it nonsense? Why wouldn’t the readership be interested in hearing this? TD put this article out there because he thinks Bills fans who follow him are dumb? Not to put too fine a point on it, but yes. If your takeaway is that there’s some festering player ill will toward McDermott because of the one quote this article managed to drag out, that is. Quote
Mr. WEO Posted March 4, 2022 Posted March 4, 2022 15 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Not to put too fine a point on it, but yes. If your takeaway is that there’s some festering player ill will toward McDermott because of the one quote this article managed to drag out, that is. Takeaway? It’s the subject of the article. It doesn’t claim all players have voiced displeasure in the way the aftermath of the game was handled internally. So only a reader of lower intellect would believe what Dunne is reporting (as is Josh Reed, separately)? That’s an interesting interpretation. Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted March 4, 2022 Posted March 4, 2022 2 hours ago, HereComesTheReignAgain said: Does anyone else find stories that are completely based on anonymous quotes really annoying? You can say anything that you want, and simply state that you have sources that didn't want to be named. That's where a reporter's credibility comes in question. Anonymous sources are critical in reporting and many important stories were broke with anonymous sources. Then again, you can fling a lot of garbage that way. So how much do you trust the writer? Does he/she have a record of solid work or throwing bombs? 1 Quote
YoloinOhio Posted March 4, 2022 Posted March 4, 2022 (edited) Off-season drama for TBD! Edited March 4, 2022 by YoloinOhio 1 Quote
ndirish1978 Posted March 4, 2022 Posted March 4, 2022 I'd rather have McDermott's version of friction coaching this team than Urban Meyer's version down at the chophouse. Quote
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted March 4, 2022 Posted March 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: Coaches don't execute plays. They do execute play calls and gameplans. Quote
Mr. WEO Posted March 4, 2022 Posted March 4, 2022 21 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: That's where a reporter's credibility comes in question. Anonymous sources are critical in reporting and many important stories were broke with anonymous sources. Then again, you can fling a lot of garbage that way. So how much do you trust the writer? Does he/she have a record of solid work or throwing bombs? Dunne is known to members of this board. "Josh Reed is a Murrow and Emmy Award winning journalist...and Sports Director" of Buffalo News 4 since 2015. A real flame thrower there. As he just put it: "Some of y’all are funny. You want reporters to give you insight on your team… unless you disagree with it" and " It’s a tweet not a web story. Don’t fans want to hear what we’re being told I credible sources?" Apparently the answer is no for many here. 1 Quote
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