Warriorspikes51 Posted April 7, 2022 Posted April 7, 2022 (edited) How about WR George Pickens as a darkhorse target for us if we moved up from 57 in the 2nd Edited April 7, 2022 by Warriorspikes51 1 Quote
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted April 7, 2022 Posted April 7, 2022 The issue I have with all these mocks both by posters here and the "professionals" is it's one person, or one computer doing the picking based on their view of the order the picks should go in. Would like to see 32 of these guys get together and start picking. Then let see then if any ones board comes close to the order they are actually picked in. I've seen a few mocks done by maybe 2 or 3 people together, but never more than that. There's a couple of threads about the Bills moving up to some spot to pick someone, again based on one persons mock that the player would even still be available at that spot. Quote
ScorpionZero Posted April 7, 2022 Posted April 7, 2022 25: R1 P25 CB Kaiir Elam - Florida 57: R2 P25 LB Troy Andersen - Montana State 89: R3 P25 WR Alec Pierce - Cincinnati 130: R4 P25 RB Hassan Haskins - Michigan 168: R5 P25 G Cade Mays - Tennessee 185: R6 P6 CB Jaylen Watson - Washington State 203: R6 P24 G Andrew-Stueber - Michigan 231: R7 P10 WR Danny Gray - SMU Quote
ScorpionZero Posted April 7, 2022 Posted April 7, 2022 29. Roger McCreary CB Auburn 57. Christian Watson WR North Dakota State 89. Troy Andersen LB Montana State 103. Wan'Dale Robinson WR Kentucky 130. Cade Mays OG Tennessee 168. Hassan Haskins RB Michigan 185. Bubba Bolden S Miami-Fl 203. Thayer Munford OG Ohio State 231. Jake Camarda P Georgia 1 Quote
Solomon Grundy Posted April 7, 2022 Posted April 7, 2022 2 hours ago, buffaloboyinATL said: Peter Schrager mocked Quay Walker to the Bills at #25 and said that his mock is based on what he is hearing from teams around the league, not who he thinks teams should take. That is the first I heard of us taking LB in the first round. I believe the only way we do this is if we have a trade partner for Edmunds. He also make the statement that he "guarantees" that Jameson Williams does not go any later than pick #15. He said many teams are very high on him. I assume most would be ok with Walker if we are able to trade Edmunds? Walker’s weaknesses sounds like Edmunds problems https://www.nfl.com/prospects/quay-walker/32005741-4c29-3485-e96f-d2f0f1223e1d Quote
LyndonvilleBill Posted April 7, 2022 Posted April 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: The issue I have with all these mocks both by posters here and the "professionals" is it's one person, or one computer doing the picking based on their view of the order the picks should go in. Would like to see 32 of these guys get together and start picking. Then let see then if any ones board comes close to the order they are actually picked in. I've seen a few mocks done by maybe 2 or 3 people together, but never more than that. There's a couple of threads about the Bills moving up to some spot to pick someone, again based on one persons mock that the player would even still be available at that spot. Are you watching our mock draft?LOL. We have a lot of people involved and our picks so far are NOT that good...😱. I like a lot of the ones in this thread better..😁 1 Quote
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted April 7, 2022 Posted April 7, 2022 1 hour ago, LyndonvilleBill said: Are you watching our mock draft?LOL. We have a lot of people involved and our picks so far are NOT that good...😱. I like a lot of the ones in this thread better..😁 Where is "Our Mock Draft" On TBD?? How many people are picking? Or are you referring to the different posts from different people all with their own mock? To me that's just as useless as I'm sure very few have the first 24 picks all going the same. So who knows who'd really be there available at #25? Quote
Vickveto Posted April 7, 2022 Posted April 7, 2022 (edited) 25 WR. Christian Watson 32 S. Lewis Chine 34 RB. Breece Hall 41 CB. Tariq Woolen 57 LB. Troy Anderson 89 WR. Tyqaun Thornton 203 P. Matt Ariza (2023 1st)(2024 1st)Tremaine Edmunds For Pick 32 and Pick 34 4th (130) 5th (168) 7th (231) (2023 2nd) A.J Epenesa For Pick 41 Edited April 7, 2022 by Vickveto 1 Quote
LyndonvilleBill Posted April 7, 2022 Posted April 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: Where is "Our Mock Draft" On TBD?? How many people are picking? Or are you referring to the different posts from different people all with their own mock? To me that's just as useless as I'm sure very few have the first 24 picks all going the same. So who knows who'd really be there available at #25? Yes. TBD mock draft. 😉 Quote
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted April 7, 2022 Posted April 7, 2022 18 minutes ago, LyndonvilleBill said: Yes. TBD mock draft. 😉 OK, saw that thread a few times, saw a name in the post title (currently is set to Logic) now that I think about it yesterday think it was listed MajBobby. I just always assumed this was Logic's mock draft and there was a thread yesterday with MajBobby's mock and so on. Guess I never connected the dots so to speak. This does address the concerns I have with most mocks. Now just need to get the folks at ESN, PFW, SI, etc. to all get together and do the same! Thanks! 1 Quote
OldTimer1960 Posted April 8, 2022 Posted April 8, 2022 4 hours ago, Vickveto said: 25 WR. Christian Watson 32 S. Lewis Chine 34 RB. Breece Hall 41 CB. Tariq Woolen 57 LB. Troy Anderson 89 WR. Tyqaun Thornton 203 P. Matt Ariza (2023 1st)(2024 1st)Tremaine Edmunds For Pick 32 and Pick 34 4th (130) 5th (168) 7th (231) (2023 2nd) A.J Epenesa For Pick 41 No thank you. Don’t need to extend credit card debt for the next two years. It would be terrible to have Josh Allen, not win next year and get progressively worse because we mortgaged those draft choices to go “all in” this year. No matter how you slice it, you get to the playoffs and you are lucky to have a 60% chance to win each game against the playoff teams in the stacked AFC. At best you get a first round bye and then have to win 3 straight against very good opponents. At 60% win probability in each game, the chance to win SB is .6x.6x.6= 22% chance to win it all. Now, factor in a major injury this year - do you want to go into ‘23 likely losing starting TE and starting MLB and not have first round picks for the next two years? At that point, you might as well trade Allen for all that you can get, because you’ll have no cap space, lose major contributors and have no top draft picks. I favor the long view - Allen is young and gives you a chance every year for the next 6-7 years if you put decent talent around him. 1 1 Quote
ScorpionZero Posted April 8, 2022 Posted April 8, 2022 I know, I know but would you not take him if he was there. 25 Round: 1 Ahmad Gardner CB | Cincinnati 57 Round: 2 Breece Hall RB | Iowa State 89 Round: 3 Troy Andersen LB | Montana State 130 Round: 4 Kyle Philips WR | UCLA 168 Round: 5 Tyquan Thornton WR | Baylor 185 Round: 6 Kalon Barnes CB | Baylor 203 Round: 6 Andrew Stueber OT | Michigan 231 Round: 7 Matt Araiza P | San Diego State Quote
Vickveto Posted April 8, 2022 Posted April 8, 2022 (edited) 31 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said: No thank you. Don’t need to extend credit card debt for the next two years. It would be terrible to have Josh Allen, not win next year and get progressively worse because we mortgaged those draft choices to go “all in” this year. No matter how you slice it, you get to the playoffs and you are lucky to have a 60% chance to win each game against the playoff teams in the stacked AFC. At best you get a first round bye and then have to win 3 straight against very good opponents. At 60% win probability in each game, the chance to win SB is .6x.6x.6= 22% chance to win it all. Now, factor in a major injury this year - do you want to go into ‘23 likely losing starting TE and starting MLB and not have first round picks for the next two years? At that point, you might as well trade Allen for all that you can get, because you’ll have no cap space, lose major contributors and have no top draft picks. I favor the long view - Allen is young and gives you a chance every year for the next 6-7 years if you put decent talent around him. Troy Anderson is going to play the middle linebacker position and we still have picks 3-7 next year you can very easily find a day one starting TE in round 3 or 4. We really wouldn’t have any holes next year Lewis chine would steps right in for Poyer and can he play hybrid nickel. I understand we haven’t built a dynasty in the modern age yet but we can’t keep everybody.Teams pay top dollar for winning players. It is what it is. Poyer Knox and Edmunds are probably gone Oliver too depending on price. We probably will be able to keep one of those. A.J Epenesa highest trade value is probably going to be now because he’s probably not going to get enough minutes. Between Edmonds and Epenesa the capspace shed would balance out. Could still go get a veteran corner. Edited April 8, 2022 by Vickveto Quote
OldTimer1960 Posted April 8, 2022 Posted April 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Vickveto said: Troy Anderson is going to play the middle linebacker position and we still have picks 3-7 next year you can very easily find a day one starting TE in round 3 or 4. We really wouldn’t have no holes next year Lewis chine would steps right in for Poyer and can he play hybrid nickel. I understand we haven’t built a dynasty in the modern age yet but we can’t keep everybody.Teams pay top dollar for winning players. It is what it is. Poyer Knox and Edmunds are probably gone Oliver too depending on price. We probably will be able to keep on of those. A.J Epenesa highest trade value is probably going to be now because he’s probably not going to get enough minutes. Between Edmonds and Epenesa the capspace shed would balance out. Could still go get a veteran corner. You might be right, but I’m not buying. Allen gives this team a fighting chance every year for the next 7+ years. I don’t want to throw that away for a low probability to win a SB this year. 1 Quote
Vickveto Posted April 8, 2022 Posted April 8, 2022 7 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said: You might be right, but I’m not buying. Allen gives this team a fighting chance every year for the next 7+ years. I don’t want to throw that away for a low probability to win a SB this year. The Rams don’t have picks and we still definitely would have more picks than them. So I don’t really think it’s throwing anything away. I just moved up in the draft a lot and got better projected players because honestly any player fourth round or later might not even make the team that’s just how good we are. Not saying players in the later rounds can’t but it’s a lot less likely and we just don’t really have the time to develop anybody right now on the field. If Lewis chine is the next Poyer Breece hall is the McKissic Etienne back Mcbeane has bean trying to find everything is good. Regardless if we win a Super Bowl or not but I feel that this would put us in the best position in our best year to see do it but Josh Allen gives you a chance every year for the next 7+ Quote
NewEra Posted April 8, 2022 Posted April 8, 2022 11 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: How about WR George Pickens as a darkhorse target for us if we moved up from 57 in the 2nd I think he’ll be gone by pick 40, possibly rd 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted April 8, 2022 Posted April 8, 2022 14 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said: Walker’s weaknesses sounds like Edmunds problems https://www.nfl.com/prospects/quay-walker/32005741-4c29-3485-e96f-d2f0f1223e1d Walker is not a first round talent. No way. 1 Quote
No_Matter_What Posted April 8, 2022 Posted April 8, 2022 On 4/6/2022 at 5:55 AM, newcam2012 said: It would be amazing if Hall drops to 89 and the Bills get him there. Yeah but half of the fans wouldn't be alive to witness it Some would broke their monitors after we passed on him at 57, and the rest would have heart attack after we passed on him at 80. Quote
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