Kenny Pickett's piano fingers

[LeGOATski]

Been saying for years that they need to measure grip strength and not hand size.... so basic.

[chongli]

4 hours ago, FireChans said:

Not trying to be funny but Tavaris Jackson died two years ago.

 

Ugh...I am sorry. I meant to write "Taysom Hill". RIP Tarvaris Jackson. The "T's" got me confused. Very unfortunate I said this. Thank you for pointing this out.

Edited March 5, 2022 by chongli

[Saxum]

4 hours ago, FireChans said:

Not trying to be funny but Tavaris Jackson died two years ago.

 

Him too?  Did he die on same day as Tarvaris Jackson ?

[Mr. WEO]

On 3/4/2022 at 1:27 AM, MiltonWaddams said:

The ability to hold onto the ball as the individual most often holding it with one hand might be a reason? Just a thought…

 

 

How many ball drops did he have las year?  

[MiltonWaddams]

Just now, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

How many ball drops did he have las year?  

He played with the college ball. It is a completely different ball. He also played against college players. I’m not saying that He can’t succeed with those hands, but I am saying he has to take precautions that a guy with the hands the size of Russell Wilson or Josh would not have to. Besides the fact the guy has small hands, I also don’t think he’s about to be some sort of an elite or even average quarterback in the league.

[Mr. WEO]

3 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said:

He played with the college ball. It is a completely different ball. He also played against college players. I’m not saying that He can’t succeed with those hands, but I am saying he has to take precautions that a guy with the hands the size of Russell Wilson or Josh would not have to. Besides the fact the guy has small hands, I also don’t think he’s about to be some sort of an elite or even average quarterback in the league.

 

 

lol what precautions would he take?

 

 

Anyway, the guy with the smallest hands among NFL QBs right now (only 9 inches/8.5 for Pickett)?   Joe Burrow.

[stevewin]

Thought it was funny on GMFB they did a bit and went around the table and each measured their hands and Kay's was basically as big (8.25)

[MiltonWaddams]

6 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

lol what precautions would he take?

 

 

Anyway, the guy with the smallest hands among NFL QBs right now (only 9 inches/8.5 for Pickett)?   Joe Burrow.

Precautions? You mean like holding onto the ball less so that rushers don’t get to him or like running with the ball a little bit tighter than someone like a Josh Allen would do? Or, as he has done in college, he could wear two gloves. Those are what I’m talking about. Not sure why you find it funny.

[Mr. WEO]

1 hour ago, MiltonWaddams said:

Precautions? You mean like holding onto the ball less so that rushers don’t get to him or like running with the ball a little bit tighter than someone like a Josh Allen would do? Or, as he has done in college, he could wear two gloves. Those are what I’m talking about. Not sure why you find it funny.

yeah, they will tell him to hold onto the ball tight.  

 

Essentially same  hand size as Burrow, who doesn’t seem to be taking any special precautions as he has been dropping bombs under pressure.

 

[Richard Noggin]

While of course hand size "matters" to at least SOME extent, it's important to consider exactly HOW hand size is measured. It's essentially "handspan," from tip of pinky to tip of thumb when the hand is fully splayed. 

 

A dude could have incredibly LONG fingers that wrap around the ball, but if his hand is not terribly wide, or his thumb doesn't hinge outward in a particular way, then his measurement would be lacking. Dante Culpepper, if I recall correctly, had relatively small hands (9.5" compared to his 6'4" height) by this metric because his fingers didn't separate widely (almost like they were slightly webbed). I'd bet Culpepper's hands are larger than mine if held up against each other, even though my hands actually measure "larger" by the NFL standard. Mediocre example because I'm sure 9.5" is right around the NFL average.

 

Like so many metrics, there are limitations and there are exceptions. Nevertheless, Pickett's hands DO seem pretty effing small for an NFL QB, and especially for a dude of his stature. I'm sure solid fundamentals (TWO HANDS ON THE BALL) and modern gloves can mitigate how much this matters. 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

17 hours ago, stevewin said:

Thought it was funny on GMFB they did a bit and went around the table and each measured their hands and Kay's was basically as big (8.25)

Objection!  Your honour, counsel for the prosecution is implying that Kay Adams has 'man hands'.

[MiltonWaddams]

16 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

yeah, they will tell him to hold onto the ball tight.  

 

Essentially same  hand size as Burrow, who doesn’t seem to be taking any special precautions as he has been dropping bombs under pressure.

 

I’m not trying to harp on this, but I just found out the guy had 27 fumbles in college. My point may be proven with that statistic?

[Mr. WEO]

1 hour ago, MiltonWaddams said:

I’m not trying to harp on this, but I just found out the guy had 27 fumbles in college. My point may be proven with that statistic?

 

27 fumbles in 5 years of college ball?  no.

 

He's #17 in pass attempts in the NCAA since 1956---and #13 in plays (2091).   That's a fumble rate of 1.29%  While at Wyoming, big hands Josh had 13 fumbles in 885 plays  for a rate of 1.47%.

 

 

Given that fumble rate, what precautions did the Bills take regarding Allen's fumble issue?   (he's fumbled 39 times in 60 games for a rate of 1.6%)...

[PonyBoy]

Always remember Jevon Kearse when it came to hand size. He could hold a 12" ruler in one hand with his thumb and pinky. Pretell, the nick name "The Freak"! 

Hand size is a huge advantage if you are throwing or catching any ball. 

[Buffalosouth]

This hand size topic comes up every year and I always hope the small hand guy does well.