What is the BEST pick you would trade for Saquon Barkley?

[Thurman#1]

8 hours ago, Rigotz said:

Joe Shoen remarked at the combine today that he's open to anything when it comes to Saquon Barkley.

 

The Bills certainly have the Beane-Shoen connection going for them.

 

What would you trade?

 

 

I wouldn't. 

 

He's a great player. But he will cost $7M+ on the cap and more going onwards. I wouldn't spend that much on an RB, and McDermott isn't likely to either.

 

Excellent player, when healthy, though.

 

And it's not that we shouldn't spend that $7M. It's that we should spend it better, filling holes rather than improving strengths.

 

People should note that the Giants drafted him and didn't win many games and they're now strongly thinking of getting rid of him at the end of his rookie contract if they can, while run by a new GM using Bills-like methods of team-building. There's a reason that's happening.

Edited March 2, 2022 by Thurman#1

[Mr. Wonderful]

Our first rounder this year.  If he stays healthy our offense could be unstoppable- when we throw or are forced to run in bad weather like the NE game.  The Rams traded unproven draft picks for known commodities and it got them a Lombardi Trophy.    

[Patrick Duffy]

19 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

I wouldn't. 

 

He's a great player. But he will cost $7M+ on the cap and more going onwards. I wouldn't spend that much on an RB, and McDermott isn't likely to either.

 

Excellent player, when healthy, though.

 

People should note that the Giants drafted him and didn't win many games and they're now strongly thinking of getting rid of him at the end of his rookie contract if they can, while run by a new GM using Bills-like methods of team-building. There's a reason that's happening.

Agree...even if he may seem fully healthy, I don't think they pay that amount

[The Wiz]

Best pick?  Let me find one. 

 

[Buffalosouth]

You know you can get good RBs late in the draft....

[njbuff]

Singletary is 30 times the player Barkley is.

 

Bills just need a change of pace/power back as a backup to Singletary, and Barkley ain’t it.

 

I’d rather have Charles Barkley.

 

 

7 hours ago, Mr. Wonderful said:

Our first rounder this year.  If he stays healthy our offense could be unstoppable- when we throw or are forced to run in bad weather like the NE game.  The Rams traded unproven draft picks for known commodities and it got them a Lombardi Trophy.    

Beane would get fired on the spot if he traded a 1st for a waste like Barkley.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

Two second round picks...New England has enough conditionals that they can spare them.

[Paul Costa]

Singletary would still be getting Carries too which in theory will  take some wear & tear off his body as the season plays out. Give the Giants our 4th & 5th round picks for Barkley & Bradberry and Beane needs to find $20 million to get it done and pay Harry 5 million a year. And let’s go to camp. Draft a WR & 1 Tech in rounds 1 & 2. 

[hondo in seattle]

9 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Meh........just sign Fournette then.

 

People act like RB's are hard to find or something.

 

 

You are absolutely right.  RBs are not hard to find.   High school and colleges are full of them.

But RBs who can make big plays in the NFL are not a dime a dozen.

 

Put Jim Brown or OJ on this offense, draft a couple of All-Pro linemen, and this offense become legendary. 

 

Barkley is not in that league - but he does (if healthy) make our O a bit more productive.

[Buffalo Ballin]

I give 5th round pick for Saquon. Easily.

[DrPJax]

17 hours ago, ToGoGo said:

It all depends on what the team doctors say. They would know best here. 

 

If they feel he can get back to All-World status, then you take a chance on getting a HOF level talent at RB, especially where that's an area that is holding the team back. 

 

As for the $7.2M, if he's healthy then he's worth every penny. He's the Thurman we've been looking for. 

I don’t care what dr examines him, there is not one infallible orthopedist in the world who can predict the future , the affect on the other knee, and can guarantee it won’t tear again or that he regains his power, speed , confidence.   See OBJ   ! It’s a gamble n a guy who has a rough health history in the NFL.  Willis mcgahee was another wasted pride pick by Donahue in addition. Get a back from a PS , free agents , street FA try outs , and see what happens in Zacs 3 rd year where there is precedent ( see motor) for it finally clicking. It’s like taking on mccaffery , he can’t finish 16 , let alone 17 games plus playoffs , so why take on someone’s JJ WATT?   Guys with injury histories are huge risks.
 

Rb is a young man’s position , shore up that o line , quit running blocking schemes we are poor at , keep bringing in young talent. If we can do that on DL and not hesitate because we missed , rb is no different and just as valuable. We need talent at bargain base prices now , not throw millions and have a guy play 8 or less games. Scouts need to look for durability and some minor upgrade in speed and a guy who can get yac with screens. 

[auburnbillsbacker]

17 hours ago, NoSaint said:

its got to at least be the comp pick you get a year later when he walks then 

 

 

expiring contracts are friendly in creating comp picks to offset trade cost. 

Correct.  If you gave up a 3rd to get him you might get a 3rd round compensatory pick back if he played well this year and signed a large contract elsewhere.  

[Nihilarian]

18 hours ago, Greg S said:

None. Injuries have robbed him of his speed/quickness. This isn't the guy from Penn St anymore.

This!!

 

Why, why, why do Bills fans want expensive damaged goods?

 

I'm sure now that the Buffalo Bills have a connection to the NY Giants that some moves will be made. Just not for a guy who can't stay healthy and has lost what made him the #2 overall pick.

 

 

 

 

[Greg S]

Just now, Nihilarian said:

This!!

 

Why, why, why do Bills fans want expensive damaged goods?

 

I'm sure now that the Buffalo Bills have a connection to the NY Giants that some moves will be made. Just not for a guy who can't stay healthy and has lost what made him the #2 overall pick.

 

 

 

 

 

As far as a connection with the Giants I wouldn't be surprised if they become a regular preseason opponent every year. Except in the year we play them in the regular season but that is only once every 4 years.

[NewEra]

12 hours ago, Mr. Wonderful said:

Our first rounder this year.  If he stays healthy our offense could be unstoppable- when we throw or are forced to run in bad weather like the NE game.  The Rams traded unproven draft picks for known commodities and it got them a Lombardi Trophy.    

Lol.  At least we now know that you will never work in an NFL FO

4 hours ago, njbuff said:

Singletary is 30 times the player Barkley is.

 

Bills just need a change of pace/power back as a backup to Singletary, and Barkley ain’t it.

 

I’d rather have Charles Barkley.

 

 

Beane would get fired on the spot if he traded a 1st for a waste like Barkley.

30 times the player.  Oh man. 

[BADOLBILZ]

3 hours ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

 

You are absolutely right.  RBs are not hard to find.   High school and colleges are full of them.

But RBs who can make big plays in the NFL are not a dime a dozen.

 

Put Jim Brown or OJ on this offense, draft a couple of All-Pro linemen, and this offense become legendary. 

 

Barkley is not in that league - but he does (if healthy) make our O a bit more productive.

 

 

RB's who can make big plays ARE a dime a dozen..............if you have players and a scheme that makes it easy for them to make them.

 

Case in point........the 2015 Bills..........Karlos and Gillislee tore it up in helping the Bills lead the entire NFL in big plays on offense.......and they both AVERAGED 5.5 yards per carry.

 

So enough with the hyperbole.

 

A better RB would be nice but the last thing you want is to throw the ball less...........Josh Allen should average 8 yards per pass attempt,  the greatest RB ever would only run for 6....................and the more you invest or believe in a RB the more likely that you give away offense by handing it to a RB.

 

Motor is a very productive RB..........consistently high ypc in his career......only 5 RB's who carried the ball as many times as him averaged more ypc than him in 2021.........and only 5 RB's ran for more 20+ yard gains than him in 2021.

 

And as far as Barkley..........even if he gets as healthy as he can at this point.......he may still suck.    There is certainly no guarantee he will return to his 2018 form 5 years later.

 

Edited March 2, 2022 by BADOLBILZ

[NewEra]

3 hours ago, Paul Costa said:

Singletary would still be getting Carries too which in theory will  take some wear & tear off his body as the season plays out. Give the Giants our 4th & 5th round picks for Barkley & Bradberry and Beane needs to find $20 million to get it done and pay Harry 5 million a year. And let’s go to camp. Draft a WR & 1 Tech in rounds 1 & 2. 

And leave the OL as is?  Bwhahaha.  Not happening 

[Process]

12 hours ago, Mr. Wonderful said:

Our first rounder this year.  If he stays healthy our offense could be unstoppable- when we throw or are forced to run in bad weather like the NE game.  The Rams traded unproven draft picks for known commodities and it got them a Lombardi Trophy.    

Omg

4 hours ago, njbuff said:

Singletary is 30 times the player Barkley is.

 

Bills just need a change of pace/power back as a backup to Singletary, and Barkley ain’t it.

 

I’d rather have Charles Barkley.

 

 

Beane would get fired on the spot if he traded a 1st for a waste like Barkley.

Omg

[Chicken Boo]

13 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Meh........just sign Fournette then.

 

People act like RB's are hard to find or something.

 

I'm not opposed to that either or James Connor.

[Mr. WEO]

continuing the recent trend of re-treading threads as "new" by including a poll.

 

nice