Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 13, 2023 Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Doc said: You actually think Trump told him/them to break into the Capitol? OK. We'll see who's right... there's a helluva lot more evidence of that than a #### and bull story about FBI involvement. But your ilk often ignore probabilities and facts...i'll take hydroxychloroquine for 200 Alex. Edited January 13, 2023 by redtail hawk
Doc Posted January 13, 2023 Posted January 13, 2023 Just now, redtail hawk said: there's a helluva lot more evidence of that than a #### and bull story about FBI involvement. But your ilk often ignore probabilities and facts... LOL! The fact is that in over 2 years, not a single person has claimed that Trump told him/her to break into the Capitol. You think Enrique was waiting for this moment to do it? Like I say, you guys run on feelz more than reality.
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 13, 2023 Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Doc said: LOL! The fact is that in over 2 years, not a single person has claimed that Trump told him/her to break into the Capitol. You think Enrique was waiting for this moment to do it? Like I say, you guys run on feelz more than reality. https://www.businessinsider.com/10-charged-in-capitol-siege-blame-trump-for-their-involvement. And "hydroxy" and Ivermectin? Are they saving lives of Covid victims now? Just a reminder of reality. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2207995 Edited January 13, 2023 by redtail hawk
Doc Posted January 13, 2023 Posted January 13, 2023 7 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: https://www.businessinsider.com/10-charged-in-capitol-siege-blame-trump-for-their-involvement. And "hydroxy" and Ivermectin? Are they saving lives of Covid victims now? Just a reminder of reality. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2207995 They certainly weren't killing people, like the left tried to claim. Just so people wouldn't use it and get better.
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 13, 2023 Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Doc said: They certainly weren't killing people, like the left tried to claim. Just so people wouldn't use it and get better. yes, people who devoted their lives to healing absolutely wanted to withhold life saving drugs from the dying😒. They were correct. You were wrong. And since your screename is doc you should understand the correspondence in the link about serious adverse reactions. Do no harm. Populism and medicine don't mix unless you're after fame and fortune like Dr Oz. Edited January 13, 2023 by redtail hawk 1
reddogblitz Posted January 13, 2023 Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, redtail hawk said: https://www.businessinsider.com/10-charged-in-capitol-siege-blame-trump-for-their-involvement. Not one of these people says Trump told him/her to break into the capital. Here's what one said as an example (from your article): Quote Once one of the former president's most loyal supporters, Jacob Chansely has apparently changed his tune. His lawyer, Al Watkins, has said the "QAnon Shaman," as Chansley became known, feels betrayed by the former president. Watkins said his client acted on "months of lies and misrepresentations and horrific innuendo and hyperbolic speech by our president designed to inflame, enrage, motivate." "Our president, as a matter of public record, invited these individuals, as president, to walk down to the Capitol with him," Watkins told a local NBC News affiliate, adding that Chansley "regrets very very much having not just been duped by the president, but ... allowed that duping to put him in a position to make decisions he should not have made. He made his own decision he says. Edited January 13, 2023 by reddogblitz 2
Doc Posted January 13, 2023 Posted January 13, 2023 2 hours ago, redtail hawk said: yes, people who devoted their lives to healing absolutely wanted to withhold life saving drugs from the dying😒. They were correct. You were wrong. And since your screename is doc you should understand the correspondence in the link about serious adverse reactions. Do no harm. Populism and medicine don't mix unless you're after fame and fortune like Dr Oz. It wasn't them who were withholding them. Your party spread lies about HCQ being dangerous when it had been around for decades and used by tens of millions daily without a concern for its safety. But once Trump mentioned it, because he once owned stock in it (my favorite line used by the idiots), it wassuddenly the most dangerous drug ever. So people were prevented from using them. Ask yourself why? As for iverrmectin, India, a country with 4 times the population and a third the land mass of the US used it and had half the number of deaths as the US. 6 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: Not one of these people says Trump told him to break into the capital. Here's what one said as an example (from your article): He made his own decision he says. They believe, or more precisely have been told, that Trump told them to break into the Capitol and that's all they want to know. Just like Russian collusion. They're still (laughably) waiting for it to happen even though there has been ample time and opportunity for someone to claim it (even to get a lighter sentence), and yet not a single person has. It's what it always was: a protest turned riot by a bunch of idiots who acted on their own.
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted January 13, 2023 Posted January 13, 2023 3 hours ago, redtail hawk said: let's see what Enrique says under oath. Perjury is a serious crime. Quote Where does it rank in comparison to seditious conspiracy? 2 hours ago, redtail hawk said: https://www.businessinsider.com/10-charged-in-capitol-siege-blame-trump-for-their-involvement. And "hydroxy" and Ivermectin? Are they saving lives of Covid victims now? Just a reminder of reality. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2207995 This is where you tapped out, Hawk. You were pressing the Trump-Proud Boy angle and suddenly, Ivermectin appears. 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 13, 2023 Posted January 13, 2023 24 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Where does it rank in comparison to seditious conspiracy? This is where you tapped out, Hawk. You were pressing the Trump-Proud Boy angle and suddenly, Ivermectin appears. it speaks to veracity 30 minutes ago, Doc said: It wasn't them who were withholding them. Your party spread lies about HCQ being dangerous when it had been around for decades and used by tens of millions daily without a concern for its safety. But once Trump mentioned it, because he once owned stock in it (my favorite line used by the idiots), it wassuddenly the most dangerous drug ever. So people were prevented from using them. Ask yourself why? As for iverrmectin, India, a country with 4 times the population and a third the land mass of the US used it and had half the number of deaths as the US. They believe, or more precisely have been told, that Trump told them to break into the Capitol and that's all they want to know. Just like Russian collusion. They're still (laughably) waiting for it to happen even though there has been ample time and opportunity for someone to claim it (even to get a lighter sentence), and yet not a single person has. It's what it always was: a protest turned riot by a bunch of idiots who acted on their own. ummm, no. Plenty of health care workers fell to covid. Do you think we all weren't looking for a magic bullet? For our colleagues and friends? of course we were. But we are scientists and the science did not support its use nor does it now.
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 13, 2023 Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) 43 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: Not one of these people says Trump told him/her to break into the capital. "Because our president, President Donald Trump, asked us to go to the march on the 6th. And he said, 'Be there.' So I went and I answered the call of my president," she told the news station. Stupid people do stupid things. And he left them hanging. Just about everyone he's touched has been lessened. Edited January 13, 2023 by redtail hawk
Doc Posted January 13, 2023 Posted January 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: ummm, no. Plenty of health care workers fell to covid. Do you think we all weren't looking for a magic bullet? For our colleagues and friends? of course we were. But we are scientists and the science did not support its use nor does it now. Sure plenty of healthcare workers fell. People were prevented from using anything. And no one ever said it was a magic bullet. But there was nothing else and it was a safe drug (safe enough that, again, tens of millions were on it daily). To paint it as a dangerous drug to scare people into not even trying it told me something more nefarious was afoot. 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 13, 2023 Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Doc said: Sure plenty of healthcare workers fell. People were prevented from using anything. And no one ever said it was a magic bullet. But there was nothing else and it was a safe drug (safe enough that, again, tens of millions were on it daily). To paint it as a dangerous drug to scare people into not even trying it told me something more nefarious was afoot. Admit it. You never went to med school. or if you did, you know what they call the student who graduates last in his class? Doctor. This is not how we are correctly taught (or teach) to reason. Edited January 13, 2023 by redtail hawk 1
Doc Posted January 13, 2023 Posted January 13, 2023 1 minute ago, redtail hawk said: Admit it. You never went to med school. or if you did, you know what they call the student who graduates last in his class? Doctor. This is not how we are correctly taught to reason. LOL! I'd say the same to you if you bought the garbage about HCQ being dangerous. 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 13, 2023 Posted January 13, 2023 What med school did u graduate from? Residency? I've shared my CV. You? 1
Doc Posted January 13, 2023 Posted January 13, 2023 Just now, redtail hawk said: What med school did u graduate from? Residency? I've shared my CV. You? Not sharing personal info here on the internet, thanks. If you did, that's your mistake. 2
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 13, 2023 Posted January 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Doc said: Not sharing personal info here on the internet, thanks. If you did, that's your mistake. actual doctors have info all over the internet.
Doc Posted January 13, 2023 Posted January 13, 2023 1 minute ago, redtail hawk said: actual doctors have info all over the internet. "Here" I said. Too many wackos. 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 13, 2023 Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Doc said: "Here" I said. Too many wackos. Take a guess what percentage of doctors chose to be immunized against covid. And what percentage . especially in university centers like UC (that helped save Damar) prescribed drugs with unconvincing and contradictory results. But I agree with the Wacko's part. How bout this. you ask me 2 medical questions that every intern should know off the top of his head. Give me 30 secs to answer then I'll do the same?" Edited January 13, 2023 by redtail hawk
reddogblitz Posted January 13, 2023 Posted January 13, 2023 4 hours ago, redtail hawk said: "Because our president, President Donald Trump, asked us to go to the march on the 6th. And he said, 'Be there.' So I went and I answered the call of my president," she told the news station. Stupid people do stupid things. And he left them hanging. Just about everyone he's touched has been lessened. Where does he say President Trump told him to break into the capital? 1 1
Doc Posted January 13, 2023 Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, redtail hawk said: Take a guess what percentage of doctors chose to be immunized against covid. And what percentage . especially in university centers like UC (that helped save Damar) prescribed drugs with unconvincing and contradictory results. But I agree with the Wacko's part. How bout this. you ask me 2 medical questions that every intern should know off the top of his head. Give me 30 secs to answer then I'll do the same?" Oh you mean like...remdesivir? I don't know, what percentage prescribed that (expensive) "magic bullet"? Obviously once the vaccines came out, almost a year after the pandemic started, the game changed. I was talking about the early stages where we had nothing. And LOL, put it back in your pants. I have nothing to prove to you. Everyone here has known I'm an MD for years before you showed up (which was not even 5 months ago). Edited January 13, 2023 by Doc 1
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