BillsFanNC Posted June 13, 2022 Author Posted June 13, 2022 Seems odd to launch concussion grenades without warning into a crowd that wasn't being violent in any way for over an hour. Seems like a good way to agitate a peaceful crowd though. Will the committe ask questions about this? Ummm no. No they won't. 1
B-Man Posted June 13, 2022 Posted June 13, 2022 That Was The Best Hearing Democrats Had To Offer? by Derek Hunter I watched that joke of a “hearing” on Thursday, the one about January 6th and the “threat to democracy” created by angry people with no focus or objective, some of whom chanted mean things. Needless to say, I was unmoved. Only 2 members spoke, Chair Bennie Thompson and Liz Cheney, and neither of them really “spoke” at all, they read. Their eyes were glued to the teleprompter the way someone who can’t swim is glued to a raft in the deep end of a pool. https://townhall.com/columnists/derekhunter/2022/06/12/that-was-the-best-hearing-democrats-had-to-offer-n2608586
B-Man Posted June 13, 2022 Posted June 13, 2022 SHOW TRIAL: Jan. 6 Committee Called Out for Altering Evidence and Lying About It. https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2022/06/12/jan-6-committee-called-out-for-altering-evidence-and-lying-about-it-n1605016
Doc Posted June 13, 2022 Posted June 13, 2022 41 minutes ago, DRsGhost said: Seems odd to launch concussion grenades without warning into a crowd that wasn't being violent in any way for over an hour. Seems like a good way to agitate a peaceful crowd though. Will the committe ask questions about this? Ummm no. No they won't. Never heard that they threw concussion grenades during what was a peaceful protest at the time. Now if they had been black...oh, wait a minute!
B-Man Posted June 13, 2022 Posted June 13, 2022 OOF! Adam Schiff vouching for Jan 6th Committee’s ‘very powerful’ evidence proving Trump responsible BACKFIRES on the committee Remember when Adam said he had proof that would end Trump with the whole fake Russia thingie? And wasn’t it Adam who got fooled by a radio station claiming they had naked pictures of Trump? Good times. Schitt-head claiming the January 6th Committee has ‘very powerful’ evidence proving Trump was responsible for a bunch of morons breaking into the Capitol and taking selfies actually hurts the committee, he gets that, right? https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/06/13/oof-adam-schiff-vouching-for-jan-6th-committees-very-powerful-evidence-proving-trump-responsible-backfires-on-the-committee/ 1
BillsFanNC Posted June 13, 2022 Author Posted June 13, 2022 13 minutes ago, B-Man said: OOF! Adam Schiff vouching for Jan 6th Committee’s ‘very powerful’ evidence proving Trump responsible BACKFIRES on the committee Remember when Adam said he had proof that would end Trump with the whole fake Russia thingie? And wasn’t it Adam who got fooled by a radio station claiming they had naked pictures of Trump? Good times. Schitt-head claiming the January 6th Committee has ‘very powerful’ evidence proving Trump was responsible for a bunch of morons breaking into the Capitol and taking selfies actually hurts the committee, he gets that, right? https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/06/13/oof-adam-schiff-vouching-for-jan-6th-committees-very-powerful-evidence-proving-trump-responsible-backfires-on-the-committee/ Not only did Schiff say over and over to the media that they had smoking gun evidence of Russian collusion, when he and others were asked under oath if they had seen evidence of it they ALL said no. Lie to the media to craft a narrative, but not under oath.
Niagara Bill Posted June 13, 2022 Posted June 13, 2022 12 minutes ago, DRsGhost said: Not only did Schiff say over and over to the media that they had smoking gun evidence of Russian collusion, when he and others were asked under oath if they had seen evidence of it they ALL said no. Lie to the media to craft a narrative, but not under oath. I want to know who the democrat is that has been orchestrating such a huge conspiracy against trump and the country. He/she would be the one I would want to tun the country. Not one of these guys like trump and Hilary who got caught and exposed.
Tiberius Posted June 13, 2022 Posted June 13, 2022 Trump's tweets lead to threats against American citizens. He sent the psychos out to intimidate Americans. Trump is a criminal
Tiberius Posted June 13, 2022 Posted June 13, 2022 Just another scam...at the American people's expense Yuo, thuggery. Relying on King Mob and deranged, idiotic supporters to threaten people
BillsFanNC Posted June 14, 2022 Author Posted June 14, 2022 Facts. Inconvenient facts. But Paul Irving, Nancy Pelosi’s sergeant-at-arms at the time, and Michael Stenger, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell’s sergeant-at-arms, repeatedly denied requests by the Capitol police chief for extra help days before the Capitol protest. As the chaos unfolded that afternoon, Irving and Stenger continued to delay numerous pleas to deploy the National Guard. Although more than 1,000 guardsmen were stationed at the D.C. armory on the morning of January 6, they were not summoned to the Capitol complex until well after 5:00 p.m. No police officers died on January 6 or as a result of the protest: Four supporters of Donald Trump—Ashli Babbitt, Rosanne Boyland, Kevin Greeson, and Benjamin Phillips—died on January 6. Babbitt, an unarmed veteran who posed no lethal threat, was shot and killed by Capitol police officer Michael Byrd around 2:45 p.m. near the Speaker’s Lobby. Boyland died around 4:30 p.m. outside the lower west terrace tunnel where D.C. and Capitol police were engaged in violent confrontations with protesters. Witnesses say Greeson and Phillips suffered fatal heart attacks after being hit with stun grenades, an explosive device used by police outside the building that afternoon. No one carried firearms into the building: On January 7, 2021, Pelosi described the previous day as an “armed insurrection,” a narrative that persisted for months. The public was led to believe gun-toting Trump supporters “stormed” the building with intent to harm or even kill lawmakers in an attempt to overthrow the government. 1
B-Man Posted June 14, 2022 Posted June 14, 2022 The Jan. 6 committee announced that its hearing set for Wednesday has been postponed The Jan. 6 committee announced Tuesday morning that its hearing set for Wednesday has been postponed. No reason was given. (Excerpt) Read more at https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wednesdays-jan-committee-hearing-postponed/story?id=85381712&cid=social_twitter_abcn
B-Man Posted June 14, 2022 Posted June 14, 2022 The House committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol announced in a statement Tuesday that it was postponing its public hearing that was scheduled for 10 a.m. ET Wednesday. The next hearing will take place on Thursday instead. Rep. Zoe Lofgren, D-Calif., a member of the panel, told reporters Tuesday that the postponement was due to “technical issues” stemming from “overwhelming” demand on staff to produce videos. Color me extremely skeptical that they postponed a long-planned hearing because they didn’t have all their videos ready. That doesn’t begin to pass the smell test. Those kinds of production elements are handled well in advance, and the committee would not be two days out from a hearing and not have all the exhibits ready to go. So what’s the real reason? I’d speculate that Monday’s hearing was such a dud that they are now scrambling to come up with more “shock and awe” for the next one. That could explain why they are rushing to produce more videos at the last minute. But what’s that tell you about the actual evidence they claim to have if they can’t just show up and present it without massaging things further? There’s also the possibility that the committee has been tipped off that the Dobbs decision, which currently promises to overturn Roe v. Wade, is going to be released on Wednesday. As of now, there’s no official word, but the Supreme Court is scheduled to release decisions on that day as the term comes to a close. That would make sense given how publicity-hungry the committee is. The last thing they want to do is compete with angry mobs reacting to the possibility of the non-existent “right” to abortion being nuked. Other than that, perhaps the infighting is just getting to the members, causing them to be unable to settle on one strategic plan going forward? That’s not a completely out-of-the-blue suggestion. Clearly, some members want to go all the way with criminal referrals while the chairman doesn’t. Such a disagreement would affect how they play their cards in the next several hearings. Regardless, it doesn’t appear things are going as planned for Thompson, Cheney, and the rest. Yes, they are getting the headlines they want from the bubble-dwelling media, but most Americans are far more concerned with the economy right now. Continuing to push January 6th as the preeminent issue of our time only feeds into the idea that Democrats are hopelessly out of touch. That’s mostly because they are. https://redstate.com/bonchie/2022/06/14/january-6th-committee-suddenly-postpones-hearing-after-infighting-begins-n578433 I don't know. Selectively editing videos probably does take time 😎 1
Nineforty Posted June 15, 2022 Posted June 15, 2022 (edited) https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/the-two-pronged-test-that-could-put-trump-in-prison Quote What does that mean, “conspiracy to defraud the United States”? The statutory citation is Title 18 of the United States Code, Section 371. It is sometimes referred to as the Klein Conspiracy, after a case named United States v. Klein. It is frequently used in cases of tax violations, but what it means is that someone with a fraudulent intent did something to obstruct or impede the official functioning of government. And so, in this instance, it would be something like, Trump and others conspired to defraud the American people and interfere with the proper transfer of Presidential power. And it could be as simple as getting Mike Pence to refuse to certify the vote when he had a duty to do so. Sometimes people think about the big picture, that you have to tie Trump to the physical attack on the Capitol. And that could do it, because that was one way that the certification was obstructed. But it could also simply be his efforts to pressure Mike Pence to refuse to certify the vote. And that would be an obstruction of an official proceeding. Quote And what about a conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding? That would relate specifically to the certification effort on January 6th. Again, it could be proved by a number of different methods. It could be proved by inciting the mob. That would be one way, but I think that’s much harder than you need. It could be proved, again, just by pressuring Mike Pence to refuse to certify. That could be an obstruction of an official proceeding of Congress. And, by interfering with that in a way that is fraudulent, that could be a violation of that obstruction statute. Quote I was hoping you could throw a little cold water on all this, because there have been so many examples in the past five years of Trump not actually getting charged. I’m curious what you see as the potential pitfalls here. I think the public is not aware of just how challenging it is to put together the kind of airtight criminal prosecution that is necessary to be able to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, to a jury of twelve people who must decide unanimously on guilt. Edited June 15, 2022 by Nineforty
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