Tiberius Posted March 7, 2022 Posted March 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Tenhigh said: I could be like your twin, Billsy, and tell you to do your own homework. But here you go: https://unherd.com/2022/03/how-western-elites-exploit-ukraine/ "But wedded to a disturbing, yet ascendant, neo-McCarthyism, the homogenisation of the Western media environment could ultimately prove more ominous than simple government censorship à la North Korea or Iran. At its core, the phenomenon aims to condition public opinion into “correct” acceptable speech patterns in the service of the “noble lie” — using the good heart of most ordinary citizens and their repulsion at human suffering as bait. This noxious development, unless fully defanged and neutralised, could yet tear the very fabric of Western society, unleashing the dystopia of internalised totalitarianism, wherein the public-private boundaries disappear and citizens — even informed ones — can hardly distinguish between planted or socially-reinforced information and their own views. In such a world, the only choice is to virtue signal and self-censor. Gone unchecked, it could amount to mass indoctrination around key national security questions and spell the end of democracy — in spirit if not procedurally. This is the ultimate fog of war.: We have a homogeneous media environment? I'd have to say no. We have all sorts of media. Very diversified
TSOL Posted March 7, 2022 Posted March 7, 2022 So China is going to use this mess to annex Taiwan once and for all amid all the world confusion in Ukraine Maybe that's the end game
Tiberius Posted March 7, 2022 Posted March 7, 2022 7 minutes ago, TSOL said: So China is going to use this mess to annex Taiwan once and for all amid all the world confusion in Ukraine Maybe that's the end game Putin laying down a sacrifice bunt for China?
TSOL Posted March 7, 2022 Posted March 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Putin laying down a sacrifice bunt for China? Bet they've talked about this. Stick it right up the west's yinyang
TSOL Posted March 7, 2022 Posted March 7, 2022 https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/china-says-taiwan-ukraine-issues-are-different-2022-03-07/
Chef Jim Posted March 7, 2022 Posted March 7, 2022 37 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Putin laying down a sacrifice bunt for China? Or swinging away to drive in two??
Tenhigh Posted March 7, 2022 Posted March 7, 2022 57 minutes ago, Tiberius said: We have a homogeneous media environment? I'd have to say no. We have all sorts of media. Very diversified Only to those unwilling to look at the bigger picture. The top story on every one of these sites Fox News: https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-3-7-2022 CNN: https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/ukraine-russia-putin-news-03-07-22/h_beb3e2d7acaa726f6a8498ebab1f600e Huff Post: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/russian-arrested-protest-ukraine_n_62259b8ee4b0bd1df76de57e Daily Beast: https://www.thedailybeast.com/vladimir-putins-world-war-z-has-created-a-new-swastika?ref=home Daily Kos https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/3/7/2084451/-Ukraine-update-Biden-administration-working-with-Europe-on-possible-ban-of-Russian-oil-imports Newsmax: https://www.newsmax.com/politics/russia-ukraine-war-crimes/2022/03/07/id/1060030/ MSN: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/xi-and-putins-no-limits-bond-leaves-china-few-options-on-ukraine/ar-AAUIRV3?li=BBnb7Kz What do these things have in common?
Tiberius Posted March 7, 2022 Posted March 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, Tenhigh said: Only to those unwilling to look at the bigger picture. The top story on every one of these sites Fox News: https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-3-7-2022 CNN: https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/ukraine-russia-putin-news-03-07-22/h_beb3e2d7acaa726f6a8498ebab1f600e Huff Post: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/russian-arrested-protest-ukraine_n_62259b8ee4b0bd1df76de57e Daily Beast: https://www.thedailybeast.com/vladimir-putins-world-war-z-has-created-a-new-swastika?ref=home Daily Kos https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/3/7/2084451/-Ukraine-update-Biden-administration-working-with-Europe-on-possible-ban-of-Russian-oil-imports Newsmax: https://www.newsmax.com/politics/russia-ukraine-war-crimes/2022/03/07/id/1060030/ MSN: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/xi-and-putins-no-limits-bond-leaves-china-few-options-on-ukraine/ar-AAUIRV3?li=BBnb7Kz What do these things have in common? They are all reporting on the story of most interest to a majority of people? ____ The World Health Organization has verified eight more attacks on health-care facilities in Ukraine, doubling the organization’s previous count, officials said Monday. The WHO has now confirmed at least 14 attacks on the country’s health-care facilities and classified two more attacks as “possible.” At least nine people have died and 16 were injured in the attacks. “WHO strongly condemns these attacks,” the organization said in a statement. “Attacks on health care violate international law and endanger lives. Even in times of conflict, we must protect the sanctity and safety of health care, a fundamental human right.”
Tenhigh Posted March 7, 2022 Posted March 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: They are all reporting on the story of most interest to a majority of people? ____ The World Health Organization has verified eight more attacks on health-care facilities in Ukraine, doubling the organization’s previous count, officials said Monday. The WHO has now confirmed at least 14 attacks on the country’s health-care facilities and classified two more attacks as “possible.” At least nine people have died and 16 were injured in the attacks. “WHO strongly condemns these attacks,” the organization said in a statement. “Attacks on health care violate international law and endanger lives. Even in times of conflict, we must protect the sanctity and safety of health care, a fundamental human right.” They are sounding the drum beat that will lead us to war, Tibs. Do you want to fight for Ukrainian autonomy, should your kids pick up a rifle and go over there?
Tiberius Posted March 7, 2022 Posted March 7, 2022 11 minutes ago, Tenhigh said: They are sounding the drum beat that will lead us to war, Tibs. Do you want to fight for Ukrainian autonomy, should your kids pick up a rifle and go over there? They are reporting on a war. That's what they are paid to do
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 7, 2022 Posted March 7, 2022 23 minutes ago, Tenhigh said: They are sounding the drum beat that will lead us to war, Tibs. Do you want to fight for Ukrainian autonomy, should your kids pick up a rifle and go over there? i sure don’t…. But it is problematic that thousands are dying because of one man’s ambitions. 1
letsgoteam Posted March 7, 2022 Posted March 7, 2022 On 3/6/2022 at 7:10 AM, All_Pro_Bills said: We can trust China as far as you can throw an Elephant. That's giving China way to much credit. I trust them even less then that. 1 1
Tenhigh Posted March 7, 2022 Posted March 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: They are reporting on a war. That's what they are paid to do But answer the question. Do you want to fight for Ukrainian autonomy, should your kids pick up a rifle and go over there? 54 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: i sure don’t…. But it is problematic that thousands are dying because of one man’s ambitions. I agree with that as well.
Boatdrinks Posted March 7, 2022 Posted March 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Tenhigh said: They are sounding the drum beat that will lead us to war, Tibs. Do you want to fight for Ukrainian autonomy, should your kids pick up a rifle and go over there? It’s great that the WHO condemns the attacks. They still won’t condemn China for f&$@$%g up the entire world though. They’ve proven themselves to be a complete joke. 1
Tiberius Posted March 7, 2022 Posted March 7, 2022 56 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: It’s great that the WHO condemns the attacks. They still won’t condemn China for f&$@$%g up the entire world though. They’ve proven themselves to be a complete joke. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/world-health-organization-criticizes-china-over-delays-in-covid-19-probe-11609883140
Chef Jim Posted March 7, 2022 Posted March 7, 2022 36 minutes ago, Tiberius said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/world-health-organization-criticizes-china-over-delays-in-covid-19-probe-11609883140 Oooooh they criticized them! Ouch, that must really have hurt China. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the word @Boatdrinks used was condemned.....connnnnndemned.
Tenhigh Posted March 7, 2022 Posted March 7, 2022 Just now, Chef Jim said: Oooooh they criticized them! Ouch, that must really have hurt China. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the word @Boatdrinks used was condemned.....connnnnndemned. "You should let us investigate" is a lot worse than "you killed millions of people with your man-made pandemic", no?
T&C Posted March 7, 2022 Posted March 7, 2022 Its kind of funny how everyone keeps referring to this as a war, its not.
Coffeesforclosers Posted March 8, 2022 Posted March 8, 2022 We're suffering from a massive case of the boy who cried wolf. Ever since the forever wars started, we've been fed a line about the next Hitler, mushroom clouds, wmds and whatever. Now when there's an actual maniac who wants to reconquer a dead empire, everyone on all sides of the political spectrum is fed up. It's ***** sad that we've come to this. because everyone is torn between standing up to Tsar Vladimir the Insane and starting ANOTHER war that goes on and on and on and on. 1
Jauronimo Posted March 8, 2022 Posted March 8, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Coffeesforclosers said: We're suffering from a massive case of the boy who cried wolf. Ever since the forever wars started, we've been fed a line about the next Hitler, mushroom clouds, wmds and whatever. Now when there's an actual maniac who wants to reconquer a dead empire, everyone on all sides of the political spectrum is fed up. It's ***** sad that we've come to this. because everyone is torn between standing up to Tsar Vladimir the Insane and starting ANOTHER war that goes on and on and on and on. Fortunately, Russian incompetence and Ukranian mud might take care of Putin's regime without US or NATO intervention. Should Putin not retain power through this fiasco, we just need to hope that whoever/whatever fills the power void is a better option. Recent history has often made us miss the dictator we knew after we were made familiar with the new chaos. One thing is certain, its going to be interesting! Edited March 8, 2022 by Jauronimo
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