The Price Of Keeping Dawson Knox

[Einstein's Dog]

22 hours ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

 

The Jonnu Smith deal should be a cautionary tale. Not one that teams should be like "well, that's the going rate for a TE so we will have to pay it." Jonnu compiled a 9 TD season in his last year with the Titans but the rest of his numbers were not top 10. He scored 1 TD last year as a Patriot. His last season with the Titans was pretty similar to Knox's most recent season. 

Not many non-cautionary tales out there though.  Godert at $14M, H Hunter $12.5, A Hooper's old contract at $10.5.  And soon to be on the scene R Tonyan at approx $10.5 and Schultz over $12M, along with Gesicki, who is a glorified slot, at >$12M.  When looking through the salaries the only kind of deals were Gronk and Ertz.

 

I would like to see the FO extend Knox into the 10M+ range and get Gronk.  Full service TEs take a beating.  Both Knox and Gronk missed time.

 

Give the Beas money to Gronk.  The Bills did better with McK when Beas was out, than they did w Sweeney when Knox was out.  Re-sign McK and draft a new slot.  

[H2o]

1 hour ago, Einstein's Dog said:

Not many non-cautionary tales out there though.  Godert at $14M, H Hunter $12.5, A Hooper's old contract at $10.5.  And soon to be on the scene R Tonyan at approx $10.5 and Schultz over $12M, along with Gesicki, who is a glorified slot, at >$12M.  When looking through the salaries the only kind of deals were Gronk and Ertz.

 

I would like to see the FO extend Knox into the 10M+ range and get Gronk.  Full service TEs take a beating.  Both Knox and Gronk missed time.

 

Give the Beas money to Gronk.  The Bills did better with McK when Beas was out, than they did w Sweeney when Knox was out.  Re-sign McK and draft a new slot.  

McKenzie ain't coming back. We won't pay him what he can get elsewhere and he sounded like a guy looking for a fresh start in the time since our season ended. 

[Einstein's Dog]

14 minutes ago, H2o said:

McKenzie ain't coming back. We won't pay him what he can get elsewhere and he sounded like a guy looking for a fresh start in the time since our season ended. 

Yeah, the odds seem against it right now based on some of his responses from before.  But that stuff is fluid.  McKenzie didn't get big offers last year, and that may be the case again. 

 

If the Bills let Beas go, the situation here would look very tempting for McKenzie.  If he gets a raise and is penciled in as the starter, just having to hold off a draft pick, I think that may be enough for him to realize that his problems last year were with some of the departed coaches.

[H2o]

Ran across this story just now.:

 

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/02/28/report-browns-are-willing-to-break-the-bank-for-david-njoku/

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Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer reports that the Browns “definitely” want Njoku back with the team, and that the Browns “are prepared to pay him the double-digit millions he’ll get on the open market.”

 

I know Cleveland is not exactly the model franchise, but they're about to pay Njoku 8 figures on top of already paying Austin Hooper 8 figures. This is what we are likely facing with Dawson Knox. Knox has 47 less catches, 500 less yards, and only one less career TD catches than Njoku has. Njoku has been in the league for 5 years, Knox only 3. Knox also wasn't really a part of the offense in college either as he didn't score a single TD while at Ole Miss. We should really look into extending his contract now as the $$$ tag is only going to continue to go up imo. 

[Doc]

1 hour ago, H2o said:

Ran across this story just now.:

 

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/02/28/report-browns-are-willing-to-break-the-bank-for-david-njoku/

 

I know Cleveland is not exactly the model franchise, but they're about to pay Njoku 8 figures on top of already paying Austin Hooper 8 figures. This is what we are likely facing with Dawson Knox. Knox has 47 less catches, 500 less yards, and only one less career TD catches than Njoku has. Njoku has been in the league for 5 years, Knox only 3. Knox also wasn't really a part of the offense in college either as he didn't score a single TD while at Ole Miss. We should really look into extending his contract now as the $$$ tag is only going to continue to go up imo. 

 

Dummies.  Just a 67.9% catch percentage.

[H2o]

1 hour ago, Doc said:

 

Dummies.  Just a 67.9% catch percentage.

Travis Kelce's catch percentage was 68.7%. Everyone quoting the "catch percentage" thing realizes it's just the number of catches divided by the number of targets, right? It's not like that player dropped the other 30% of their targets. Njoku actually had the lowest drop % of the three at 3.8%. Knox's drop percentage was 5.6% and Kelce's 7.5%. 

Edited February 28, 2022 by H2o

[Einstein's Dog]

35 minutes ago, H2o said:

Travis Kelce's catch percentage was 68.7%. Everyone quoting the "catch percentage" thing realizes it's just the number of catches divided by the number of targets, right? It's not like that player dropped the other 30% of their targets. Njoku actually had the lowest drop % of the three at 3.8%. Knox's drop percentage was 5.6% and Kelce's 7.5%. 

I think you missed Doc's sarcasm.

 

As for Njoku, it seems like it would be show a slight mistake out of Clev if they re-sign him off the FA market at >$10M.  Seems like they could  have extended him prior to the FA period and a better financial deal.  It's exactly why many of us are hoping the Bills get on to signing Knox, the cost will only go up. 

 

And Njoku for Cleveland shows the Bills should be upgrading the TE room.  Locking up Knox is a big part of the equation, but also shoring up TE2.  Cleveland will have Hooper and Njoku.  Tampa had Gronk/OJ and Brate, New England bought Hunter and J Smith.  The Bills should have more than one good TE.

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