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Reportedly Brian Flores admitted to Tua that they were pursuing Watson after the pre season finale


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https://t.co/C4aU0kep4g some on here might not agree with me. But I think this proves that Flores wasn’t ready to be a HC. I mean I kind of feel for Tua here, being put in a situation where your HC hated your guts and wanted you gone. I’m starting to wonder if Flores was purposefully trying to sabotage Tua by not getting him an OC or a QBS coach.  

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This comment is not about the pending discrimination lawsuit

 

But why does it seem like Brian Flores has a problem with just keeping his mouth shut?  Why as a coach would you ever say that to your franchise QB?

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7 minutes ago, Steptide said:

Honestly, I dont blame Flores. We all know Tua isn't good. I can only imagine when Fitz got benched how frustrated Flores probably was. 

Flores was the one who benched Fitzpatrick. No one put a gun to his head and forced Fitz to be benched, that was all flores

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4 minutes ago, mushypeaches said:

This comment is not about the pending discrimination lawsuit

 

But why does it seem like Brian Flores has a problem with just keeping his mouth shut?  Why as a coach would you ever say that to your franchise QB?

No matter how much the media spins someone for doing a good job and being very competent,  sometimes a nitwit is just a nitwit.

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7 minutes ago, Steptide said:

Honestly, I dont blame Flores. We all know Tua isn't good. I can only imagine when Fitz got benched how frustrated Flores probably was. 

Honestly we don’t really don’t know if Tua isnt good or not. Because simply the fact he hasn’t had any development as far as coaching goes. You’d have to be blind to not see him being set up for failure

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2 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

Flores was the one who benched Fitzpatrick. No one put a gun to his head and forced Fitz to be benched, that was all flores

Are you sure? I thought I remember reports that the owner was the one that wanted Tua to start 

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9 minutes ago, mushypeaches said:

This comment is not about the pending discrimination lawsuit

 

But why does it seem like Brian Flores has a problem with just keeping his mouth shut?  Why as a coach would you ever say that to your franchise QB?

They obviously didn't think he was their franchise qb, else why look to trade for another QB.  Part of me says it's good to be upfront with Tua, since the rumors were already out there.

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25 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

https://t.co/C4aU0kep4g some on here might not agree with me. But I think this proves that Flores wasn’t ready to be a HC. I mean I kind of feel for Tua here, being put in a situation where your HC hated your guts and wanted you gone. I’m starting to wonder if Flores was purposefully trying to sabotage Tua by not getting him an OC or a QBS coach.  


it wasn’t exactly a secret that Ross was trying to work a deal for Watson. Why is being honest and admitting it to Tua so bad? Should he have lied to the kid and told him the entirety of NFL media were all FOS?

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3 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

Honestly we don’t really don’t know if Tua isnt good or not. Because simply the fact he hasn’t had any development as far as coaching goes. You’d have to be blind to not see him being set up for failure

Tua played pretty well down the stretch, leading the team to a 7-1 record to finish the season. He still hasn't played a full season yet.

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2 minutes ago, klos63 said:

Tua played pretty well down the stretch, leading the team to a 7-1 record to finish the season. He still hasn't played a full season yet.

He definitely did. I’m not trying to tell anyone that Tua is going to be a super star cause I don’t think he will. But I wouldn’t doubt with proper coaching that he gets to an Alex Smith type of level. Remember before Harbaugh came around everyone in the NFL thought Smith was a bust until Harbaugh turned his career around. And then he had some productive years under Reid as well. At the end of the day it all comes down to execution. And Flores simply wasn’t executing on the offensive side of the ball

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31 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

https://t.co/C4aU0kep4g some on here might not agree with me. But I think this proves that Flores wasn’t ready to be a HC. I mean I kind of feel for Tua here, being put in a situation where your HC hated your guts and wanted you gone. I’m starting to wonder if Flores was purposefully trying to sabotage Tua by not getting him an OC or a QBS coach.  

 

Not sure this  "proves" anything.... I dont believe every story I read in the NFL media...

 

Ever since he was fired, there seems a campaign out of Miami to leak damaging stories about Flores full of anonymous quotes...

 

Lets see someone ( Tua?) go on the record...

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Just now, Aussie Joe said:

 

Not sure this  "proves" anything.... I dont believe every story I read in the NFL media...

 

Ever since he was fired, there seems a campaign out of Miami to leak damaging stories about Flores full of anonymous quotes...

 

Lets see someone ( Tua?) go on the record...

There was that report from Omar where Tua and Flores got into a very heated argument in locker room when they were playing against Baltimore. Reportedly Tua cussed out Flores and screamed at him that you can’t treat people like this. Also in that report players went over to Tua and told him that it’s not his fault that it’s bad coaching that’s holding them back

2 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:

 

Not sure this  "proves" anything.... I dont believe every story I read in the NFL media...

 

Ever since he was fired, there seems a campaign out of Miami to leak damaging stories about Flores full of anonymous quotes...

 

Lets see someone ( Tua?) go on the record...

Regardless though it seems like Flores created a toxic work environment. I think both parties were at fault, one being the front office and the other Flores. I doubt though that he coaches another game in the NFL. Maybe not even in College

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So he told him the truth. What's the point about lying to him when his agent likely knows the real deal anyway?

 

Are people really that naive they don't think the agents know everything that's going on?

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Just now, Big Turk said:

So he told him the truth. What's the point about lying to him when his agent likely knows the real deal anyway?

It’s not so much about Lying to him. It was more so allowing the Watson ordeal become a major distraction. Flores wasn’t mentally mature enough to be a HC. And the way he handled all of this shows that

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6 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

There was that report from Omar where Tua and Flores got into a very heated argument in locker room when they were playing against Baltimore. Reportedly Tua cussed out Flores and screamed at him that you can’t treat people like this. Also in that report players went over to Tua and told him that it’s not his fault that it’s bad coaching that’s holding them back

 

Ok..

 

Coach and QB have argument in locker room..film at 11

 

Look.. I dont have a dog in this fight... I just think in this age of click bait internet news articles.. I take unsourced quotes with a grain of salt..

 

I think back to when JJ Watt signed last year with the Cardinals... about a dozen other teams were sourced in the media as his landing spot .. I dont recall many ( if any) saying he was heading to Arizona until he broke the news himself.

 

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7 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

It’s not so much about Lying to him. It was more so allowing the Watson ordeal become a major distraction. Flores wasn’t mentally mature enough to be a HC. And the way he handled all of this shows that

 

How could it not? Everyone knows their QB is a dead man walking in the locker room and that's who they are supposed to be led by?

 

C'mon man...I think you are just looking for something that isn't there and making up fantasy land situations in your mind.

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