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Announced last night at nfl honors 

 

Bruce smith announced Boselli

I was surprised Andre Johnson wasn’t inducted in his first year eligible 

Finalists were:

Devin Hester
*Andre Johnson
*Reggie Wayne
*Torry Holt
*DeMarcus Ware
*Patrick Willis
*Jared Allen
*Richard Seymour
*Zach Thomas
*Ronde Barber
*Leroy Butler
*Bryant Young
*Sam Mills
*Tony Boselli
*Willie Anderson

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2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

A lot of the guys they put in are before my time. Doesn't strike me as a strong group though. Like they used it as a year to reward guys who had waited a while.

 

I didn't realize you were that young! (Either that, or I am old, lol).

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5 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

A lot of the guys they put in are before my time. Doesn't strike me as a strong group though. Like they used it as a year to reward guys who had waited a while.


All guys at one point were the best in the game I would say out of that list obviously Boselli and Leroy Butler were most deserving. The weakest guy to me is probably Sam Mills or Seymour and those guys obviously had really good careers. I think what it lacks is a skill player superstar. Nothing sexy about grinders 

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26 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I was surprised Andre Johnson wasn’t inducted in his first year eligible 

 

 

I am not surprised. Andre Reed had a higher YPC average (13.9 vs. 13.4) and more receiving TD's (87 vs. 70) in his 15-year career (vs. 12 for Johnson) and had to wait eight years to get in.

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1 minute ago, chongli said:

 

I am not surprised. Andre Reed had a higher YPC average (13.9 vs. 13.4) and more TD's (87 vs. 70) in his 15-year career (vs. 12 for Johnson) and had to wait a number of years to get in.

WRs always seem to wait. Also ST. Devin Hester seemed surprised he wasn’t a first ballot, which made me laugh. Tasker still not in and Hester thinks he’s 1st ballot. 

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8 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said:


All guys at one point were the best in the game I would say out of that list obviously Boselli and Leroy Butler were most deserving. 

I respectfully disagree. I make the case that due to Bosselli having such a short career, Willie Anderson was more deserving.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_Anderson_(American_football)

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Wow I'm stunned Hester did not make it.  He is the best returner of all time. I dont think any of the guys voted in are worthy of the HOF. Boselli was a HOF talent but didn't have a HOF career due to injuries. Johnson and Wayne are more deserving than any of the others. 

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Being he was a Patriot I saw a lot of Richard Seymore. Never thought he was a HoF guy. Not to say he wasn't an extremely good player...he was. 

 

I think he is a Hall of Very Good type player. 

 

Sam Mills was terrific. Part of a really great Saints LB core. However I don't think he was even the best LBer on his team. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, chongli said:

 

I didn't realize you were that young! (Either that, or I am old, lol).

 

I'm not that young but being on the other side of the pond my NFL fanship didn't start until my university years in the early 00s.  

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24 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I'm not that young but being on the other side of the pond my NFL fanship didn't start until my university years in the early 00s.  

 

That definitely counts as young! Anyone younger than I am is definitely young. 😅

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Worst HoF I can remember. 
 

Ware should have been in 💯, as should have Willis and either a WR, Holt or Johnson in first.  

2 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said:

Wow I'm stunned Hester did not make it.  He is the best returner of all time. I dont think any of the guys voted in are worthy of the HOF. Boselli was a HOF talent but didn't have a HOF career due to injuries. Johnson and Wayne are more deserving than any of the others. 

Before Hester, who was the best returner of all time?  That person isn’t in the HoF…..why should Hester? He’s not a HoFer until Tasker gets in.  

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1 hour ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Being he was a Patriot I saw a lot of Richard Seymore. Never thought he was a HoF guy. Not to say he wasn't an extremely good player...he was. 

 

I think he is a Hall of Very Good type player. 

 

Sam Mills was terrific. Part of a really great Saints LB core. However I don't think he was even the best LBer on his team. 

 

 

And not nearly as good as Patrick Willis.  Funny that Boselli (career cut short due to injury) gets the nod over Anderson (long career) while Mills (long career) gets the nod over Willis (injury cut short due to injury).

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2 hours ago, Bill from NYC said:

I respectfully disagree. I make the case that due to Bosselli having such a short career, Willie Anderson was more deserving.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_Anderson_(American_football)

I believe Boselli is more deserving. Because of the injury situation in the NFL, I think the Sandy Koufax rule applies for their HOF more than in any other league. That is, a five-year span of greatness counts for me more than 12 years of very good-ness. Boselli was the best o-lineman in the league from 1996-2000 (his rookie year was 1995). He was truly a dominator. The same logic applies to Gale Sayers and Terrell Davis. (Always bear in mind that Davis had a ridiculous 1,140 yards and 12 TDs in 8 post season games -- which translates to 2,280 yards and 24 TDs over a 16 game season against the best competition.) As for Sandy Koufax, he had 5 amazing season in a row (1962-1966) and one good season (1961). He retired after the 1966 season. Before that, he wasn't much of anything. But he certainly deserves being in the HOF. 

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2 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said:

Wow I'm stunned Hester did not make it.  He is the best returner of all time. I dont think any of the guys voted in are worthy of the HOF. Boselli was a HOF talent but didn't have a HOF career due to injuries. Johnson and Wayne are more deserving than any of the others. 

I’m surprised no Wayne either. 

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For those questioning Sam Mills, here's some insight.

 

Remember that it's the "Pro Football Hall of Fame", not the NFL Hall of Fame, his USFL career counts. Mills was All-USFL all 3 seasons he played there (all-pro equivalent), won 2 Championships, and a member of the USFL All-Time team. He didn't play in the NFL until he was 27, and still made 5 Pro Bowls, also 3 top-10 finishes for DPOY.

 

Mills was an absolute beast, and an inspirational player & person. Watch his "A Football Life" episode, it's the best episode I've seen.

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