Could Bills Trade Up To #1 For Pass Rusher? Picks and Rousseau For #1?

[GreggTX]

Rousseau has more than potential. In fact, he was much better by season's end than nearly all the 'experts' had predicted. We need to keep him.

[Donuts and Doritos]

Unrealistic question, it would take a lot more than this to trade to #1 (try like three 1sts & 2nds) to go from 25 to 1. The question is would you be willing to trade all of that for a swing at 1 player who may or may not pan out & will take a few years to develop, while our Superbowl window is open now. It's a no brainer the answer is no. & Beane isn't going to do it. So let's stop with the silly questions.

[Dopey]

Boooooo.

Boooooo.

Boooooo.

Just boooooo.

 

 

[mead107]

Trade all draft picks to go to number 1

 

[Simon Says]

So you land Hutchinson, but would possibly have to give up more than the 25th overall and a 2nd,in addition to Rosseau.  Keep in mind,every time you trade multiple picks you are missing an opportunity to fix another position. Would a starting  CB at 25 for example, be a better OVERALL plan?

Edited February 12, 2022 by Georgie

[ThurmanThomasEnglishMuffin]

4 minutes ago, Georgie said:

So you land Hutchinson, but would possibly have to give up more than the 25th overall and a 2nd,in addition to Rosseau.  Keep in mind,every time you trade multiple picks you are missing an opportunity to fix another position. Would a starting  CB at 25 for example, be a better OVERALL plan?

 

Or swing the 1st round pick for a known starter at CB? Sounds crazy, but Beane did it for a #1 WR.

[LyndonvilleBill]

20 minutes ago, ThurmanThomasEnglishMuffin said:

 

Or swing the 1st round pick for a known starter at CB? Sounds crazy, but Beane did it for a #1 WR.

I think people forget it wasn't just a 1st rnd pick. It was also a 4,5 and 6. That would be a lot to give up under our current situation. I'm not arguing that flipping a 1st for a starting CB isn't an option, but do you have someone in mind and would that team be willing? Serious question as I haven't looked into it at all.

[muppy]

OP was throwing crap up on a chat room wall to see if the idea indeed would have any traction amongst the brethren of 2BD

 

The answer to that is a flat NOPE

 

If someone who rarely posts does, and it's bad, its a bad idea and u scroll on past just like any other thread that doesnt interest you.

 

I mean for our Bills this frankly offseason already. 8 pages in hmm okay....  OP Novice attempt. Go easy on him now ;-)-m

 

#piffle

Edited February 12, 2022 by muppy

[Nextmanup]

4 minutes ago, muppy said:

OP was throwing crap up on a chat room wall to see if the idea indeed would have any traction amongst the brethren of 1BD

 

The answer to that is a flat NOPE

 

If someone whom rarely posts does, and it's bad, its a bad idea and u scroll on past just like any other thread that doesnt interest you.

 

I mean for our Bills this frankly offseason already. 8 pages in hmm okay....  OP Novice attempt. Go easy on him now ;-)-m

 

#piffle

If someone *who* rarely posts

 

Nominative case.

 

 

[muppy]

2 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

If someone *who* rarely posts

 

Nominative case.

 

 

thanks grammar police I stand corrected. 

[Big Turk]

This is the type of stuff people come up with when they play Madden franchise mode for too long and see ridiculous trades like that get accepted and think this is how things work in real life.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

9 minutes ago, muppy said:

OP was throwing crap up on a chat room wall to see if the idea indeed would have any traction amongst the brethren of 1BD

OP is Jeremy White, looking to expand the morning show's 'sphere of influence'?😁

[1ManRaid]

3 hours ago, mead107 said:

Trade all draft picks to go to number 1

 

 

With how late in the round we pick, the #1 pick is literally worth more than our next TWO entire draft classes.

Edited February 12, 2022 by 1ManRaid

[ThurmanThomasEnglishMuffin]

1 hour ago, LyndonvilleBill said:

I think people forget it wasn't just a 1st rnd pick. It was also a 4,5 and 6. That would be a lot to give up under our current situation. I'm not arguing that flipping a 1st for a starting CB isn't an option, but do you have someone in mind and would that team be willing? Serious question as I haven't looked into it at all.

 

Oh yeah, it may be a package, but our Bills are in win now mode. I would look at teams in cap trouble or rebuilding. Marshawn Lattimore fits 2/3 of those requirements, but his contract is a mess. I haven't gone team by team yet, just throwing out the idea that trading a 1st (and other pics/ player) may be an option this year, and CB is a real need IMO.

[BarleyNY]

1 hour ago, muppy said:

thanks grammar police I stand corrected. 

This was not the mea culpa I was expecting in this thread 

[1ManRaid]

1 hour ago, LyndonvilleBill said:

I think people forget it wasn't just a 1st rnd pick. It was also a 4,5 and 6. That would be a lot to give up under our current situation. I'm not arguing that flipping a 1st for a starting CB isn't an option, but do you have someone in mind and would that team be willing? Serious question as I haven't looked into it at all.

 

This year, giving up a 4th+5th+6th gets us from pick 25 to pick.....20.  

 

But as for a lot to give up in our situation, how?  We are in a great roster situation where we can afford the luxury of going BPA.  Minor holes can be filled with FA.

[LyndonvilleBill]

1 minute ago, 1ManRaid said:

 

This year, giving up a 4th+5th+6th gets us from pick 25 to pick.....20.  

 

But as for a lot to give up in our situation, how?  We are in a great roster situation where we can afford the luxury of going BPA.  Minor holes can be filled with FA.

I wasn't looking at it as moving up in the 1st rnd. I was looking at losing 3 lower cost players. For example, That 4, could get you a decent RB, 5 could get you another oline and 6 could get you a good depth player or even a really good punter. LOL. 

[BarleyNY]

12 minutes ago, ThurmanThomasEnglishMuffin said:

 

Oh yeah, it may be a package, but our Bills are in win now mode. I would look at teams in cap trouble or rebuilding. Marshawn Lattimore fits 2/3 of those requirements, but his contract is a mess. I haven't gone team by team yet, just throwing out the idea that trading a 1st (and other pics/ player) may be an option this year, and CB is a real need IMO.

One critical component of the Diggs trade was that he wanted out of Minnesota.  That’s the reason the Bills got a player of his caliber on a reasonable contract for what they did.

 

I don’t have an issue trading for a CB in theory, but I’m looking for a fit unless a rare Diggs-like situation pops up.  We can’t take on a bad contract so thats out.  A second or third tier CB on an expiring contract would be an option, but we could just sign one of those for the contract we’d give one we’d trade for.  Don’t see that happening.

 

I think we’re seeing what FA brings and then looking to the draft.  Expect at least one in each. 

[bobobonators]

On 2/9/2022 at 11:31 AM, 1ManRaid said:

Holy crap you GREATLY underestimate how much it would cost to move up 20+ spots in the first round to #1 overall.  Need to throw in a couple more 1st and 2nd rounders at least, especially considering our low draft slots.  Our 2nd rounder + Rousseau probably wouldn't get us to the top 10, and it only gets exponentially more expensive from there.

Its almost impossible

[1ManRaid]

1 hour ago, LyndonvilleBill said:

I wasn't looking at it as moving up in the 1st rnd. I was looking at losing 3 lower cost players. For example, That 4, could get you a decent RB, 5 could get you another oline and 6 could get you a good depth player or even a really good punter. LOL. 

 

Sorry I meant to highlight comparative value of a trade of 1st/4th/5th/6th for a player.  I'd gladly give up a #20 pick for a player like Diggs and fill the others with cheap FAs or trade down a 2nd for midrounders.