Could Bills Trade Up To #1 For Pass Rusher? Picks and Rousseau For #1?

[DCofNC]

19 hours ago, 1ManRaid said:

 

Guess you hated landing Allen, then.

Trading down to get away away from Maholmes was a great move too.  Draft trades never work.

[Sharky7337]

Last time we traded up for a generational talent we got Sammy Watkins.

 

Let's let the other teams have alien lizard people.

[PrimeTime101]

19 hours ago, Nextmanup said:

Never trade up! It's for idiots.

 

 

so were we idiots for trading up for Josh or is this just another one of your meaningless stupid troll posts again?

[dje85]

2 hours ago, Nextmanup said:

If he was ever going to be a "beast" we would know it by now.

 

He's closer to the "bust" end of the spectrum.

 

I was huge on this guy, too.

 

 

 

Yes, because every NFL player comes in day one and becomes a stud day one. Rousseau came in and played very well for a rookie. Will he need to take a step up yes but I wouldn't assume he won't become a beast when he hasn't even had a full year & off-season in a NFL training room. Usually takes two to three years to truly tell where some of these guys are talent wise. 

Edited February 10, 2022 by dje85

[filthymcnasty08]

19 minutes ago, Sharky7337 said:

Last time we traded up for a generational talent we got Sammy Watkins.

 

Let's let the other teams have alien lizard people.

😡 - Khalil Mack - it still hurts.

[SoTier]

34 minutes ago, Sharky7337 said:

Last time we traded up for a generational talent we got Sammy Watkins.

 

Let's let the other teams have alien lizard people.

 

Actually, the last time the Bills traded up for a generational talent, they got Josh Allen ....

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

19 hours ago, ChasBB said:

Never say "never".  I'm not agreeing with the OP - we need to continue to develop Rousseau, but trading up is exactly how we landed Josh Allen, so it's not always idiotic to trade up.

 

The thing is, we traded up 5 spots from 12th to 7th.

 

As the draft picks get closer to the top, the haul needed to move up gets larger.

 

26 minutes ago, filthymcnasty08 said:

😡 - Khalil Mack - it still hurts.

 

Don't remind me of those days.  I would just finish writing something like "the Bills could trade up for Mack because (reasons)" and "the Bills would never trade all that to move up for a WR" and Nix or Whaley would be "Hold My Beer"

[Rico]

21 hours ago, jwhit34 said:

The #1 overall pick will not be a QB for only the 4th time since 2010 (Myles Garrett-'17, Jadaveon Clowney-'14 and Eric Fisher-'13). Aidan Hutchinson seems to be at the top of many draft boards.

 

A big need for the Bills is still a 10+ sack/year pass rusher. Would a package consisting of the Bills' 1st and 2nd round draft picks in '22 plus Greg Rousseau land them the #1 pick? Would you do it if you were the Bills? What if you were the Jaguars? 

 

My thought here is that the Bills have 3 young DEs that could all be decent players but maybe not elite. Rousseau probably has the most potential. Hutchinson seems more of a sure thing. If you're the Jags, you get a player and 2 good picks. Plug in Hutchinson, maybe Epenesa and/or Basham work out, bring in a vet DE to be a rotational guy. 

 

If you're the Jags and this isn't enough, what more do you think they would ask for? If you're the Bills, what more would you be willing to give up? Maybe the Bills have to throw in a 2 or 3 in '23.

Trade all that for a high-motor, lunch-pail DE. Are you related to Sherlock Holmes?

[Jay_Fixit]

I’m trying real hard to figure out if this is a troll job or just an abysmal thread.

 

Its early on the west coast.

[without a drought]

1 minute ago, Jay_Fixit said:

I’m trying real hard to figure out if this is a troll job or just an abysmal thread.

 

Its early on the west coast.

It could just be an abysmal troll job.

[filthymcnasty08]

1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

 

 

Don't remind me of those days.  I would just finish writing something like "the Bills could trade up for Mack because (reasons)" and "the Bills would never trade all that to move up for a WR" and Nix or Whaley would be "Hold My Beer"

 

It was Whaley/Russ (after Ralph passed) while we were between owners playing with "house money" like two children. 

[1ManRaid]

2 hours ago, DCofNC said:

Trading down to get away away from Maholmes was a great move too.  Draft trades never work.

 

Except for the team that got Mahomes.  Hindsight and all that.

[papazoid]

#1 overall ($37 mil) or 3 picks #30($13), #25 ($14) & #57 ($5)

 

only if i needed AND there was a franchise qb there at #1

 

otherwise, i prefer keeping my picks, spreading the risk of injury over 3 players and saving a few bux

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, filthymcnasty08 said:

 

It was Whaley/Russ (after Ralph passed) while we were between owners playing with "house money" like two children. 

 

It was far more prolonged and broader in scope than that.  Trade up for TJ Graham in 2012 with Russ Wilson on the board had nothing to do with Ralph passing and Whaley/Russ playing with "house money"

[Buffalosouth]

At this point if we're trading for anything it's going to be a established player. Anything is possible though (according to Kevin Garnett). 

[Chaos]

On 2/9/2022 at 12:34 PM, Nextmanup said:

Never trade up! It's for idiots.

 

 

We traded for Josh Allen.   

[djp14150]

On 2/9/2022 at 12:24 PM, jwhit34 said:

The #1 overall pick will not be a QB for only the 4th time since 2010 (Myles Garrett-'17, Jadaveon Clowney-'14 and Eric Fisher-'13). Aidan Hutchinson seems to be at the top of many draft boards.

 

A big need for the Bills is still a 10+ sack/year pass rusher. Would a package consisting of the Bills' 1st and 2nd round draft picks in '22 plus Greg Rousseau land them the #1 pick? Would you do it if you were the Bills? What if you were the Jaguars? 

 

My thought here is that the Bills have 3 young DEs that could all be decent players but maybe not elite. Rousseau probably has the most potential. Hutchinson seems more of a sure thing. If you're the Jags, you get a player and 2 good picks. Plug in Hutchinson, maybe Epenesa and/or Basham work out, bring in a vet DE to be a rotational guy. 

 

If you're the Jags and this isn't enough, what more do you think they would ask for? If you're the Bills, what more would you be willing to give up? Maybe the Bills have to throw in a 2 or 3 in '23.

 

you realize this player called Bruce smith had crap numbers his rookie year…..

[1ManRaid]

3 hours ago, Jay_Fixit said:

I’m trying real hard to figure out if this is a troll job or just an abysmal thread.

 

Its early on the west coast.

 

It's been a full day now and the OP has yet to post again since posting this thread, despite being around last night and early this morning.  My money is on just an abysmal thread fueled by staggering ignorance of trade values, and he's too scared to respond.  Then again he has less than 500 posts in 12 years, so maybe it's just his style to drop something and not be seen again.

[Nextmanup]

3 minutes ago, djp14150 said:

 

you realize this player called Bruce smith had crap numbers his rookie year…..

I'm not sure I'd call 4 fumble recoveries, 6.5 sacks, and 48 solo tackles "crap" numbers.

 

Rousseau had 4 sacks and 42 solo tackles; no recoveries for comparison.

 

What's concerning is John Fina's comments about Rousseau having no planned "first move" prior to the snap when he is going to pass rush, which is every OLman's dream come true.

 

 

[Patrick Duffy]

1 minute ago, Nextmanup said:

I'm not sure I'd call 4 fumble recoveries, 6.5 sacks, and 48 solo tackles "crap" numbers.

 

Rousseau had 4 sacks and 42 solo tackles; no recoveries for comparison.

 

What's concerning is John Fina's comments about Rousseau having no planned "first move" prior to the snap when he is going to pass rush, which is every OLman's dream come true.

 

 

Well I'm confident that's an area that's very fixable, he and coaches will work on that and will improve