How bad is it for Lesile Frazier?

[Marvlevydraftdaygenius]

When Lovie Smith, gets a head coaching job over Frazier.  Is Lovie really better than Frazier?  Lovie’s defense was horrible last year except when he played the Jets and Lovie’s tenure in Illinois was something you would not write the books about.

 I know the Kanas City game  was a disaster and it would be hard to sell a fan base on that game but even I think Frazier is better then Lovie Smith. 

Edited February 8, 2022 by Marvlevydraftdaygenius

[Blank Stare]

I know, write?!

[Pokebball]

1 minute ago, Marvlevydraftdaygenius said:

When Lovie Smith, gets a head coaching job over Frazier.  Is Lovie really better than Frazier?  Love’s defense was horrible last year except when he played the Jets and Lovie’s tenure in Illinois was something you would not rights books about.

 I know the Kanas City game  was a disaster and it would be hard to sell a fan base on that game but even I think Frazier is better then Lovie Smith. 

I think Lovie's another bandaid.  I wish him the best of luck with the Texans.  He's gonna need it.

[aristocrat]

Nobody wants the Texans job. Lovie is just already there. Toxic place right now 

[BuffaloBillyG]

In house candidate that will be grateful for the job and likely be agreeable to whatever coaching additions (McCown, Pep Hamilton) that the Texans brass want him to add.

 

Wouldn't shock me if they called Frazier at some point and he laughed at them and hung up.

[YoloinOhio]

12 minutes ago, Marvlevydraftdaygenius said:

When Lovie Smith, gets a head coaching job over Frazier.  Is Lovie really better than Frazier?  Love’s defense was horrible last year except when he played the Jets and Lovie’s tenure in Illinois was something you would not rights books about.

 I know the Kanas City game  was a disaster and it would be hard to sell a fan base on that game but even I think Frazier is better then Lovie Smith. 

I think a lot had to do with Lovie having been their DC and Asst HC already. 

[AlCowlingsTaxiService]

To be fair, Smith did get the Bears to a Super Bowl with Rex Grossman behind center. Additionally, I don’t think you can judge HC candidates based solely on standings and statistics. Ability to manage, delegate and be a leader of men certainly play a role. Maybe Frazier is just a poor interviewee?

[Buffalo Boy]

I’ll make millions on a one year deal to coach any team😎

[MAJBobby]

15 minutes ago, Marvlevydraftdaygenius said:

When Lovie Smith, gets a head coaching job over Frazier.  Is Lovie really better than Frazier?  Love’s defense was horrible last year except when he played the Jets and Lovie’s tenure in Illinois was something you would not rights books about.

 I know the Kanas City game  was a disaster and it would be hard to sell a fan base on that game but even I think Frazier is better then Lovie Smith. 

People know that Leslie is Calling and Coaching McD defense.  

 

Leslie is a Cover-2 coach, and we are a Cover-3 McD Defense.  So interviews likely show to that again that his defense that he pitches is back into the Cover-2 mindset.

[AlCowlingsTaxiService]

Just now, ScottLaw said:

Well… he did say he doesn’t like to make adjustments to the game plan this past season …

Not something any GM or owner would want to hear from a prospective hire 

[947]

The Texans job is just another placeholder, whoever takes it knows they'll likely only be there 1 year before they get the Culley treatment. It's as bad a situation as any NFL job could be. No idea if Frazier would've even taken it, but he'd have likely ended up with the same fate.

 

Lovie's career record as HC is 89-87, Frazier's is 21-32-1. So I guess there's some basis for their thinking.

[benderbender]

If they won the Chiefs game and completely laid an egg in the AFCCG, Frazier still would have gotten a HC job.

 

13 seconds was the high school equivalent of farting in gym class and then running for class president. He was only going to get pity votes.

[Wayne Cubed]

A lot has to do with the Texans and the culture within the building currently. They aren't attracting high end candidates, not with Easterby there. I think this is more a move to stablize and be a placeholder really.

[atlbillsfan1975]

I have a feeling there will be a 30 for 30 or some other type of documentary done on the Houston Texans debacle when it is all said and done. Lots going on down there. Good luck to Lovie, always seems like a nice man. 

Edited February 8, 2022 by atlbillsfan1975

[TBBills]

Not surprising he didn't get a HC job.

[GunnerBill]

Frazier made it to the final two for the Texans job last year. 

[LABILLBACKER]

13 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Well… he did say he doesn’t like to make adjustments to the game plan this past season …

He definitely didn't make any adjustments at 13 seconds. No one is hiring him after that debacle. We're stuck with him and this confusing relationship between him & McD.

[billsfan1959]

Wait, is this a disguised "Are we over-reacting to the 13 seconds?" Part Deux thread?

[Mango]

25 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I think a lot had to do with Lovie having been their DC and Asst HC already. 

 

Shhh. Don't let facts get in the way....

He already took the day off from work, the torches are soaking in kerosene and he is half way done sharpening his pitchfork. Just let him tire himself out. He will fall asleep on his own. 

[T master]

26 minutes ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said:

To be fair, Smith did get the Bears to a Super Bowl with Rex Grossman behind center. Additionally, I don’t think you can judge HC candidates based solely on standings and statistics. Ability to manage, delegate and be a leader of men certainly play a role. Maybe Frazier is just a poor interviewee?

I had wondered why Lovey hadn't gotten another HC job after leaving the Bears i thought he was a decent coach & would have been good for some team .