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20 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Barkley and the Bills seem like a match this offseason.

 

I agree and people disliking the above comment are not seeing the potential here.

 

A one year rental for a low round draft pick for an elite player who underperformed in his first year post ACL surgery, whose contract is I believe not more than the top 10 running back.

 

So...for something like a sixth round pick you could get the 2nd best RB in the league, who is likely to have a crazy breakout season in his second year after an ACL.

 

Put it this way. Take McKenzie (who I really like) and Taiwan Jones and a couple other special team elite players. Replace them with minimum salary players. Take the difference and subtract it from Barkley's salary for the one year. Who contributes more to wins across the season, Barkley or those guys? Shoot, Barkley would be insane running jet motion with Singletary and Allen running RPOs.

 

Anyway, if you have a chance to get an in his prime Adrian Peterson on a one year rental for a sixth round pick, while paying him top 10 rb money...like are people not appreciating the potential and likely breakout season Barkley is about to have?

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I’ll take Gronk for $7.2m over Barkley.  Gronk is like a 6th OL and is also a chain mover and a red zone threat.  He moves the needle more than Barkley.  If we’re looking to improve at RB, there’s free agents who will be cheaper than $7.2m.  Fournette, Melvin Gordon, Marlon Mack. Patterson might be cheaper than $7.2m.  

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Posted
10 minutes ago, TheBeaneBandit said:

7.2 isn't really that bad in 2022 guys. If they could restructure a little of it to lower it a bit I'm listening on a Barkley trade.


They cannot restructure it.  It’s fully guaranteed - player has ZERO incentive to make any changes to his deal.  You trade for him you’re acquiring a FULLY GUARANTEED $7m liability that you’re stuck with even if he’s hurt or sad or just sucks.  The Giants would have to throw in a high draft pick just to get someone to take that contract off of their hands - that’s how untradeable he is.

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I’d think there would be little to do with the NYG as far as player trades.  With a new regime the two big drivers usually are:

- Poor scheme fit of existing players.  As I’d expect Daboll to require similar skill sets to those on our roster I’d expect him to be getting rid of players that don’t fit our system.  He might want to acquire players from us, but we really don’t have anyone of high value to give up.  Maybe just looking at a depth player with upside.

- Shedding older, higher priced vets to purge cap.  Really don’t see the fit here.  We aren’t looking to take on many big contracts. 

I see pick for picks draft weekend trades as more likely.

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Think it also must be pointed out the Giants oline according to our good friends at PFF was ranked 30th in the NFL add to that Daniel Jones was the QB so all you had to do on offense was stack the box to stop Saquan.


Then again the Bills finished 17th so it wasn’t like they where 1980s Hogs out there they just have a QB who literally turns into Wolverine from X-men when he’s on his game.

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Posted
22 hours ago, MJS said:

Watkins had years of injury concerns already, though. And he later admitted to having to mature and become a better team player after he left the Bills.

 

I guess we don't know if Toney has any character concerns, but it is pretty tough to label him injury prone after one season.

Judging by his comments after the Henry Ruggs mess, I’d say there are a few character concerns 

Posted
8 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

People really don't want this to happen. 😆

 

 

 

Yep, why give up assets for a declining player who will play 3 games and then go on IR?

Posted
23 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:

Rumor Spring is right around the corner.

🤦‍♂️

I've already got my cabbie sources parked at the airport!

Posted
14 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

We have no idea how he'll hold up physically.

 

 

He has been in the league for 4 years and has played a full season once. His YPC went from 5 to 3.7. Please show me a case where an older RB with an ACL injury in their history turned into a more durable player?  

 

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2 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said:

 

 

He has been in the league for 4 years and has played a full season once. His YPC went from 5 to 3.7. Please show me a case where an older RB with an ACL injury in their history turned into a more durable player?  

 


Fred Taylor.  But the issue is his contract.

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29 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said:

 

 

He has been in the league for 4 years and has played a full season once. His YPC went from 5 to 3.7. Please show me a case where an older RB with an ACL injury in their history turned into a more durable player?  

 

He just turned 24 years old. The injuries also mean less carries over 4 seasons.

 

I understand the injury history is a concern. An example? Look no further than James Connor last year. He's been injured every year and last year put together a good season.

 

The cap number is the worry. Conner played on a very low cap number, Barkley wouldn't. But it's only a 1 year risk. 

 

I look at the 1 year more than the cap number. The 1 year deal is what makes him a match for the Bills.

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