Davis Webb on FA visit with NYG (update - signed)

[4BillsintheBurgh]

5 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

Exactly how much better do you want to see Josh "see the field" or "get rid of the ball faster"

 

He was like......arguably the best player in the NFL last year

It seems to me that if he doesn't run the ball the offense can sputter. He needs that scramble or one of his runs to keep drives going.. So I want to see the number of his runs drop and see the offense not lose a step.

[The Jokeman]

4 minutes ago, 4BillsintheBurgh said:

It seems to me that if he doesn't run the ball the offense can sputter. He needs that scramble or one of his runs to keep drives going.. So I want to see the number of his runs drop and see the offense not lose a step.

Then we need to find a true #1 RB. I like Motor but he's ideally a 3rd down/change of pace RB. Moss is not reliable.

[4BillsintheBurgh]

4 hours ago, Doc said:

 

I never said it was a high bar.  Just informing the poster, who might not have known, that Josh already surpassed Brady's rushing stats.

Good info, but actually I guess I didn't get the point I was trying to make clear. I was thinking on a year to year basis, so Brady in year 10 is going to be less than Josh in year 10, for any year that is looked at, just because Josh is a better athlete. 

[4BillsintheBurgh]

1 minute ago, The Jokeman said:

Then we need to find a true #1 RB. I like Motor but he's ideally a 3rd down/change of pace RB. Moss is not reliable.

Absolutely, especially since our oline is always going to be better pass blockers than run blockers so we need a better than average back with speed to attack off tackle. Seems pretty important to me.

[The Jokeman]

9 minutes ago, 4BillsintheBurgh said:

Absolutely, especially since our oline is always going to be better pass blockers than run blockers so we need a better than average back with speed to attack off tackle. Seems pretty important to me.

Kolar as Online coach may help the running game but you're right it does like we do better finding pass blockers.

Edited February 9, 2022 by The Jokeman

[Nitro]

Bills will be signing a lot of low level FAs.   Two QBs and might draft one.  I am curious how the team will attack free agency.

 

[John from Riverside]

1 hour ago, 4BillsintheBurgh said:

It seems to me that if he doesn't run the ball the offense can sputter. He needs that scramble or one of his runs to keep drives going.. So I want to see the number of his runs drop and see the offense not lose a step.

………….

[DrPJax]

20 hours ago, stevewin said:

That's a cool connection with Havlicek, but as an old Buffalo Braves fan I still hold a hatred for the Celtics deep in my heart.  I will say one time when I was a kid for some reason we were in the hotel the Celtics were staying at in Buffalo (maybe a brunch or something?) and all their players were in the lobby - and probably somewhere still in my Dad's house is the piece of paper from that day with autographs from Jo Jo White, Havlicek, Cowens etc - even Heinsohn. 

Those are some of my all time favorite Celtics.  Yeah John H was from a small town called bellaire ( Joey gallegher the receiver was also from there ! ) and my dad ran crews for a local coal mining company called Hanna coal. Was eventually purchased by a very big oil company called consol in the early 70’s I think, and luckily I am still living off that stock my dad got when I was a kid and I’m 64 now!  My dad was a smart civil engineer for that coal company. I worked my way thru college and Med school in the summers for those mines. I figured out real quickly how hard my dad worked and that it was much  easier to study and get a white coat compared to the labor those tough guys did!  
 

So John was part of my dads crew in the summers. They surveyed the coal veins for strip mining and reclamation back in those days. It still bothers me having grown up among coal miners and Steel workers to hear that great source of energy blasted by politicians who would rather make us depend on foreign powers for our energy , esp when technology exists to clean the discharge. It killed my area of ohio and western Pa. , but that’s a story for a different time. 
 

Those guys you mentioned were all time greats. Jo jo white and Sam jones were a couple of my favs cuz I was a point guard and loved bank shots like Sam jones perfected.   I was in junior high then and never personally got to meet John.  Who knew he would become a Celtic great !?  My dad got me hooked on the Celtics tho. The Bills were my own choice tho as my dad was a jet fan because of Namath. Went with the Bills to just have a fun rivalry with my dad. First game I really still remember well was us losing to the chiefs for who was going to the first super  bowl !  Little did I know that undying love of the Bills would eventually subject me to wide right, music  city crap , and now 13 seconds!  Please Lord, give us just one Lombardi before it’s my time!  😊😀😉😀

[Saxum]

14 hours ago, Nitro said:

Bills will be signing a lot of low level FAs.   Two QBs and might draft one.  I am curious how the team will attack free agency.

 

I think there will be free agents trying to salvage their careers.

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Coach Tuesday]

This is still being discussed?

[Doc]

16 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said:

Lost in all this 3rd string QB hoopla is the fact that the G men also plucked Jamie Gillan the Scotish punter guy. 
 

So if Haack is gone, who is next? Michael Palardy? College 80 yard guy? Some other person?

 

Remind me not to draft the Giant's K in fantasy...

 

Seriously though, Jack Fox. 

 

15 hours ago, The Jokeman said:

Then we need to find a true #1 RB. I like Motor but he's ideally a 3rd down/change of pace RB. Moss is not reliable.

 

D'Onta Foreman.  He's 6'1" 236#, runs in the mid-4.4s and is probably looking to get out from under Henry's shadow.

[Beerball]

17 hours ago, Nitro said:

Bills will be signing a lot of low level FAs.   Two QBs and might draft one.  I am curious how the team will attack free agency.

 

numbers vs big splash is my guess

[Nitro]

2 hours ago, Doc said:

 

Remind me not to draft the Giant's K in fantasy...

 

Seriously though, Jack Fox. 

 

 

D'Onta Foreman.  He's 6'1" 236#, runs in the mid-4.4s and is probably looking to get out from under Henry's shadow.

I think Foreman's performance will bring him a big contract.  Not sure the Bills need to tie up money in that position.

[The Jokeman]

3 hours ago, Doc said:

 

Remind me not to draft the Giant's K in fantasy...

 

Seriously though, Jack Fox. 

 

 

D'Onta Foreman.  He's 6'1" 236#, runs in the mid-4.4s and is probably looking to get out from under Henry's shadow.

I liked him his draft year but he's done nothing in the NFL.

[stuvian]

this is his 2nd tour of duty with NYG, no? 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

On 2/8/2022 at 7:14 AM, eball said:

And thus we now have the biggest question of the offseason…who is Josh going to race at the end of each practice?

 

Good question.  Josh was so funny about that:

"Davis Webb is faster.  I hate to admit it, but I guess I just did" 😄

44 minutes ago, stuvian said:

this is his 2nd tour of duty with NYG, no? 

 

Correct, the Giants drafted him

 

[YoloinOhio]

1 hour ago, stuvian said:

this is his 2nd tour of duty with NYG, no? 

He was supposed to be the heir apparent to Eli 

[Cruiserplayer]

The Bills wanted him to transition to a coach: https://billswire.usatoday.com/2022/02/09/buffalo-bills-davis-webb-qb-coach-new-york-giants/ 

[Doc]

He chose more money.  As a PS or even an assistant QB coach, he'd be making a fraction of the $1M the Giants are paying him.  But I don't blame him.