Davis Webb on FA visit with NYG (update - signed)

[MAJBobby]

37 minutes ago, 4BillsintheBurgh said:

We're at a point as a team where we need an experienced backup qb to give us a chance to win games if Josh goes down for a few games, and not worry about how much we can get for said backup in a trade. Those were the good old days when we weren't expected to be in the playoffs. As we saw this year a game or two has large ramifications on playoff seeding.

 

Pittsburgh did this with Charlie Batch, he was a backup who could come in and play ok as well as be a sounding board for Ben. Fitz could be that for us, if he was willing to accept that he is the backup and do the things that position requires. I could see Josh and Fitz getting along well too.

Who were Bradys Backups?  If Fitz is willing to hold a clipboard for League Minimum OK.  Anything more not thanks.  just go get a rookie 

[Freddie's Dead]

8 hours ago, stevewin said:

That's a cool connection with Havlicek, but as an old Buffalo Braves fan I still hold a hatred for the Celtics deep in my heart.  I will say one time when I was a kid for some reason we were in the hotel the Celtics were staying at in Buffalo (maybe a brunch or something?) and all their players were in the lobby - and probably somewhere still in my Dad's house is the piece of paper from that day with autographs from Jo Jo White, Havlicek, Cowens etc - even Heinsohn. 

 

Jesus don't get me started.  The powder blues with Bob McAdoo and Randy Smith brings back great memories.  Screw John Y Brown and the LA Clippers until eternity ends. 

[4BillsintheBurgh]

1 hour ago, MAJBobby said:

Who were Bradys Backups?  If Fitz is willing to hold a clipboard for League Minimum OK.  Anything more not thanks.  just go get a rookie 

So you're going to compare what BB* does with rookies vs the rest of the league? No thanks, I'll spend the extra for the insurance with playoffs/positioning on the line.

Brady did have plenty of both rookie and veteran backups over the years. The other point is that Josh runs more than Tom and the chance we will need someone is much greater.

Edited February 8, 2022 by 4BillsintheBurgh

[Doc]

15 minutes ago, 4BillsintheBurgh said:

So you're going to compare what BB* does with rookies vs the rest of the league? No thanks, I'll spend the extra for the insurance with playoffs/positioning on the line.

Brady did have plenty of both rookie and veteran backups over the years. The other point is that Josh runs more than Tom and the chance we will need someone is much greater.

 

With the hire of Kromer as OL coach, how much Josh runs may change.

[4BillsintheBurgh]

1 minute ago, Doc said:

 

With the hire of Kromer as OL coach, how much Josh runs may change.

Yeah maybe, hopefully it will be because Josh is seeing the field better and getting rid of the ball faster, but yes, our running game may be better with Kromer and less Josh.

 

I'd be willing to bet Josh's run stats will always be better than Tommy's at any similar point in their careers, because Josh can while Tommy cannot.

[Doc]

12 minutes ago, 4BillsintheBurgh said:

Yeah maybe, hopefully it will be because Josh is seeing the field better and getting rid of the ball faster, but yes, our running game may be better with Kromer and less Josh.

 

I'd be willing to bet Josh's run stats will always be better than Tommy's at any similar point in their careers, because Josh can while Tommy cannot.

 

Josh surpassed Brady's career numbers in rushing yards after his 2nd season and rushing TDs this year.  On almost 2/3 of the attempts.

[Big Turk]

On 2/7/2022 at 11:29 AM, ColoradoBills said:

Smart move by Daboll.  Davis would make more on their roster holding a clipboard than on the Bills PS.

Webb helping Daniel Jones with Daboll's playbook would be worth the spot.

 

Hell yeah if I was in Davis's spot I would do the same thing. Huge jump in pay between active roster and PS

Edited February 8, 2022 by Big Turk

[John from Riverside]

2 hours ago, FilthyBeast said:

This is an interesting move since Fromm is also already on the roster.

 

Throw in Trubisky and the 2022 Giants QB room is going to look very similar to the Bills last year minus one key guy of course.

That one "key guy" makes all the difference in the world

[Saxum]

1 hour ago, Big Turk said:

 

Hell yeah if I was in Davis's spot I would do the same thing. Huge jump in pay between active roster and PS

 

If he makes roster for it is unlikely he got much of a signing bonus.

[MAJBobby]

2 hours ago, 4BillsintheBurgh said:

So you're going to compare what BB* does with rookies vs the rest of the league? No thanks, I'll spend the extra for the insurance with playoffs/positioning on the line.

Brady did have plenty of both rookie and veteran backups over the years. The other point is that Josh runs more than Tom and the chance we will need someone is much greater.

Yes I am going to compare the proper uses of Asset management when you have a 1/4B Franchise QB.  Without looking it up Name Chiefs Backup and Cap hit to that BU. 

Edited February 8, 2022 by MAJBobby

[John from Riverside]

2 hours ago, 4BillsintheBurgh said:

Yeah maybe, hopefully it will be because Josh is seeing the field better and getting rid of the ball faster, but yes, our running game may be better with Kromer and less Josh.

 

I'd be willing to bet Josh's run stats will always be better than Tommy's at any similar point in their careers, because Josh can while Tommy cannot.

Exactly how much better do you want to see Josh "see the field" or "get rid of the ball faster"

 

He was like......arguably the best player in the NFL last year

[Mr. WEO]

3 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said:

 

Jesus don't get me started.  The powder blues with Bob McAdoo and Randy Smith brings back great memories.  Screw John Y Brown and the LA Clippers until eternity ends. 

 

Plus Ernie D in the backcourt with McAdoo.

 

But then there was this cat...

 

2 hours ago, Doc said:

 

Josh surpassed Brady's career numbers in rushing yards after his 2nd season and rushing TDs this year.  On almost 2/3 of the attempts.

 

That's the lowest bar imaginable.    Brady finished with only 1124 more rushing yards in the NFL than I did.

 

[OldTimer1960]

10 hours ago, stevewin said:

OMG - I actually looked for that iconic picture from under the basket that showed the scoreboard and that time had run out before McAdoo touched him - I couldn't find in anywhere online (it's in my copy of "Buffalo Home of the Braves" book - which is signed by Jack Marin BTW  )

 

God I loved the Braves

 

 

 

 

Oh man, I am still traumatized by the Braves leaving town.  I LOVED the Braves - McAdoo, Ernie D!, McMillan, Big E Elmore Smith, Randy Smith (from Buff State), Adrian Dantley, etc.  Really some great players from a team that lasted only 7 years.

[Freddie's Dead]

25 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Plus Ernie D in the backcourt with McAdoo.

 

But then there was this cat...

 

 

Adrian Dantley, Moses Malone, Gar Heard, we had playas.  Help me out though @Mr. WEO, I'm drawing a blank on the pic...

[Mr. WEO]

1 minute ago, Freddie's Dead said:

 

Adrian Dantley, Moses Malone, Gar Heard, we had playas.  Help me out though @Mr. WEO, I'm drawing a blank on the pic...

 

That, my friend is the one and only Marvin "Bad News" Barnes.  He was akin to Len Bias had he not OD'd, but just git high all then time.

[Doc]

42 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

That's the lowest bar imaginable.    Brady finished with only 1124 more rushing yards in the NFL than I did.

 

I never said it was a high bar.  Just informing the poster, who might not have known, that Josh already surpassed Brady's rushing stats.

[Freddie's Dead]

23 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

That, my friend is the one and only Marvin "Bad News" Barnes.  He was akin to Len Bias had he not OD'd, but just git high all then time.

 

Jesus, forgot about that guy.  One of Ernie D's bros at Providence....

[Mr. WEO]

8 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said:

 

Jesus, forgot about that guy.  One of Ernie D's bros at Providence....

 

 

Yup, I saw them play there at the Civic Center.

[MrEpsYtown]

Lost in all this 3rd string QB hoopla is the fact that the G men also plucked Jamie Gillan the Scotish punter guy. 
 

So if Haack is gone, who is next? Michael Palardy? College 80 yard guy? Some other person?

[The Jokeman]

On 2/7/2022 at 11:29 AM, oldmanfan said:

Bring back Barkely.  Or Fitz.

I could see Barkley back assuming Trubinsky not returning. I'd also like drafting a guy in Rounds 6 or 7 to develop and see if can build to trade down the road.

27 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

Lost in all this 3rd string QB hoopla is the fact that the G men also plucked Jamie Gillan the Scotish punter guy. 
 

So if Haack is gone, who is next? Michael Palardy? College 80 yard guy? Some other person?

We could draft a kid to compete with Haack or to develop on the PS with eye to replace him if he struggles again.