The WR FA list for 2022 is very intriguing…

[BADOLBILZ]

1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Josh was 3rd in the NFL in passing yards on passes behind the LOS with over 800 yards from that.  
 

This worst YAC is a fable.  Watch the games, we run a lot of plays where the receivers curl, sit down in an open spot, or come back to the ball.  We run a lot of crossing playa to the sidelines.  And most importantly, because Josh extends plays so much, receivers are often coming back to him or running to the boundary to give him a target.

People watch the Chiefs and think we need players who can do that while failing to realize it’s not the players, it’s the offense.  Chiefs offense is built on short passes with gains on the run.  Mahomes led the league on yard gained on throws behind LOS by a lot.

 

Again, our offense is not the problem, nor do we need to change it to be short strikes for YAC.  We have a beast of a QB, it’s more important to support him with more protection and a consistent run game.  

 

 

 

Pretending that the Bills have receivers who can excel after the catch in a short passing offense is utterly foolish.

 

That's not their skillset and that's what they need to make it less work for Josh Allen to play the position.

 

Calling being THE WORST YAC team in the league "a fable" is weak.........it's not simply the system........watch the lack of space defenses give these receivers underneath.......they do not fear them turning the ball up and beating them after the catch.

 

But this is awful take is not surprising coming from someone who adamantly believes in trading picks or players for a $7.2M RB who has only been unproductive and repeatedly injured when he's played the last two years.

 

 

Edited February 6, 2022 by BADOLBILZ

[ColoradoBills]

12 minutes ago, LyndonvilleBill said:

 

 

I'm glad Coloradobills peaked in. I always look for his CAP threads (my local capologist.😉).

 

@coloradobills. How we looking there boss? Restructure, our own FA signings and draft. What's left in the bank account?😂

 

I do like the number side of the game and usually leave the "who" to those who know more about that than I.

 

My job before retiring was all about presenting numbers and options to my upper management and let them make the hard choices.

Although to do that properly you have to have a decent idea how that management thinks.  When it comes to having some fun with

all this I try to anticipate what Beane might be thinking.

 

Beane restructured $17M last year and opened up another $6M is paycuts.  I can see him doing that much again this year and maybe

a bit more.  It seems to me this year once again has a limited amount of cap chasing a lot of FAs.  So there could be some bargains

for a team like Buffalo to sign some decent players even with a tight cap.

 

What I wish I knew is what the leagues GMs think the "big bump" in cap could be after the new TV contracts are signed for 2023.

[Kwai San]

3 hours ago, eball said:

 

Couldn’t disagree more, re: not continuing to build the offense.  Forget this “D wins championships” nonsense.  The Bills are right there; they need to give Josh more weapons, not fewer.  Lack of adjustments kept the Bills out of the Super Bowl, not lack of talent or lack of defense.

 

 

While I def agree with most of what you say, lack of defense is what hurts them WHEN they play better teams.  It ends up being a shootout, unless you are feasting on rookie or back-up QB's.  This years D was a casebook of they played awesome against the teams the should have (JAX withstanding) and they struggled a bit with the playoff teams.

 

Don't get me wrong - I am ALL over more weapons and better O-Line depth.  Just like a "get home" DL or DE is a priority.

[NewEra]

2 hours ago, Doc said:

 

We'll agree to disagree.  I just can't see expecting the offense to have to score more than 36 points to win a game as sustainable.

You’re going to the extreme.  Our defense gave up 17 points per game…..Our defense LED THE LEAGUE in points against.  If you think that our defense isn’t good enough to win a super bowl, how can the rams or bengals win the super bowl?  Our D IS better than theirs. As is our offense.  We had won the game and McD lost it.  Not out defense.  They just played what was called 

[LyndonvilleBill]

21 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said:

Right now over the cap,  Beane could create around 35 million with some acceptable cuts and a few players restructure.

Thanks. How many player cuts to get there?

[BuffaloRebound]

Can’t see McBeane dipping into the high end of the WR market.  On that list, Pringle would be intriguing to me.  Speed guy who can return kicks.  Upgrade to mckenzie.  I also think a 1st round or 2nd round WR is definitely in play.  

[Kwai San]

2 hours ago, No_Matter_What said:

That is really a nice list and I'm sure Beane will sign somebody. I expect some cheaper vet.

 

What I am more interested in is list of available IOL FA.

 

Easily done.....haven't read far enough to know if it already was..... https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/ufa/guard/available/

[Alphadawg7]

20 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Pretending that the Bills have receivers who can excel after the catch in a short passing offense is utterly foolish.

 

That's not their skillset and that's what they need to make it less work for Josh Allen to play the position.

 

Calling being THE WORST YAC team in the league "a fable" is weak.........it's not simply the system........watch the lack of space defenses give these receivers underneath.......they do not fear them turning the ball up and beating them after the catch.

 

But this is awful take is not surprising coming from someone who adamantly believes in trading picks or players for a $7.2M RB who has only been unproductive and repeatedly injured when he's played the last two years.

 

 

Just about about everything in your reply here is inaccurate.  Par for the course I suppose.  

[LyndonvilleBill]

11 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

I do like the number side of the game and usually leave the "who" to those who know more about that than I.

 

My job before retiring was all about presenting numbers and options to my upper management and let them make the hard choices.

Although to do that properly you have to have a decent idea how that management thinks.  When it comes to having some fun with

all this I try to anticipate what Beane might be thinking.

 

Beane restructured $17M last year and opened up another $6M is paycuts.  I can see him doing that much again this year and maybe

a bit more.  It seems to me this year once again has a limited amount of cap chasing a lot of FAs.  So there could be some bargains

for a team like Buffalo to sign some decent players even with a tight cap.

 

What I wish I knew is what the leagues GMs think the "big bump" in cap could be after the new TV contracts are signed for 2023.

And this is why I tagged you!!!🤗

 

I will never be able to keep up with you, So I'll keep it more on my level.😂

 

So say 25 mil. 

3-5 mil for the draft 

3-5 emergency fund

18 FA's

8 draft picks

So approximately 15 mill to fill 10 spots.🤔

[Doc]

5 minutes ago, NewEra said:

You’re going to the extreme.  Our defense gave up 17 points per game…..Our defense LED THE LEAGUE in points against.  If you think that our defense isn’t good enough to win a super bowl, how can the rams or bengals win the super bowl?  Our D IS better than theirs. As is our offense.  We had won the game and McD lost it.  Not out defense.  They just played what was called 

 

It's what happened.  The Bengals allowed 16 and 24 points to 2 of the highest scoring offenses in the league, and limited their opponents to 3+ fewer points than their regular season average.  Despite being ranked 17th.  The Bills OTOH surrendered 36 points despite their defense being best in points-allowed during the season and going into week 2 of the playoffs.  Now they're probably going to lose Wallace, and Tre is still recovering.  And McD and co. aren't going anywhere.

[RyanC883]

3 hours ago, eball said:

 

This is true, I just look at the Bills’ defensive failure in that game as one of coaching and adjustments, not talent.  For my money, I’m going to give the big fella all the weapons I can.

 

 

I think we need to improve the D and get Allen more weapons. It can be done.  Rams did both this season, Bean just stood pat.   Can’t play timid in your SB window.  

[Alphadawg7]

3 hours ago, eball said:

If anyone thinks I’m saying the Bills should “ignore” defense they are taking an overly simplistic view of my post and this thread.  My overall perspective is that when you have a bell cow at QB, you don’t let him “make do” with what you have; you keep putting more players around him.

 

On defense the Bills need to upgrade at CB2 and continue searching for impact players on the line.  That is not in dispute.

No offense, but you literally said “forget this defense wins championshiop nonsense” like one post ago. 
 

So no surprise that people took you as not being in favor of prioritizing some defensive issues.

 

Facts are this:  All of our starting offensive skill players are already coming back next year.  Same unit that allowed Josh to throw 9 TDs in just 2 playoff games with over 700 yards passing too.  
 

On defense, our #1 CB is coming off a severe injury that usually takes a year of playing to really get back to form, our other starting CB is a free agent…at DT, our starter Phillips also a FA and Star could be gone too, our best run stuffer. 
 

I mean it’s crystal clear we have bigger issues this off-season on defense, multiple starters need to be addressed.  Not to mention, we still don’t know how the FO sees Edmunds future either.
 

Plus we need new starters on the OL too and could look for a bell cow RB.  
 

With our core offense coming back, we are talking about essentially a 4th WR here whose probably our 5th option in the offense (Diggs, Davis, Cole, Knox).  
 

So for me, that doesn’t seem like nearly the priority of those other things.  

Edited February 6, 2022 by Alphadawg7

[NewEra]

7 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

It's what happened.  The Bengals allowed 16 and 24 points to 2 of the highest scoring offenses in the league, and limited their opponents to 3+ fewer points than their regular season average.  Despite being ranked 17th.  The Bills OTOH surrendered 36 points despite their defense being best in points-allowed during the season and going into week 2 of the playoffs.  Now they're probably going to lose Wallace, and Tre is still recovering.  And McD and co. aren't going anywhere.

Yes, it’s what happened.  No mention of how bad Mahomes played.  As if that doesn’t matter. 
 

So you’re saying that Cinci has a better d than us.  Got it 👍🏻 
 

our D is fine.  We lost because our coach choked

[Doc]

6 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Yes, it’s what happened.  No mention of how bad Mahomes played.  As if that doesn’t matter. 
 

So you’re saying that Cinci has a better d than us.  Got it 👍🏻 
 

our D is fine.  We lost because our coach choked

 

Their defense was better in the playoffs.  I don't know what happened during the regular season for them to be ranked only 17th, but they were great in the playoffs.  The Bills' defense wasn't and the coaching, which you blame, isn't changing.  So we'll agree to disagree on which side of the ball needs to be improved.

[Alphadawg7]

5 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Yes, it’s what happened.  No mention of how bad Mahomes played.  As if that doesn’t matter. 
 

So you’re saying that Cinci has a better d than us.  Got it 👍🏻 
 

our D is fine.  We lost because our coach choked

It’s not that black and white though.  Our defensive style doesn’t match up well with the Chiefs offense.  
 

It’s not always about whose O or D is better, it’s also about matchups.  Its why the Rams lost 6 straight (and would have been 7 straight if Tarrt doesn’t drop that gimme INT) to an up and down Niners team.

 

Its why I was hoping Frazier would leave.

[NewEra]

3 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Their defense was better in the playoffs.  I don't know what happened during the regular season for them to be ranked only 17th, but they were great in the playoffs.  The Bills' defense wasn't and the coaching, which you blame, isn't changing.  So we'll agree to disagree on which side of the ball needs to be improved.

And still no mention of Mahomes playing poorly….that’s why KC lost and Cinci won

[LyndonvilleBill]

18 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Yes, it’s what happened.  No mention of how bad Mahomes played.  As if that doesn’t matter. 
 

So you’re saying that Cinci has a better d than us.  Got it 👍🏻 
 

our D is fine.  We lost because our coach choked

WTH.... This AGAIN!!? It's like Groundhog day...🤬. Take it back over to the 25th pick thread or start your own thread. Jeepers.

[Doc]

Just now, NewEra said:

And still no mention of Mahomes playing poorly….that’s why KC lost and Cinci won

 

So he played poorly...because he sucks?  Because the defense stymied him?  What?

[Kwai San]

10 minutes ago, NewEra said:

And still no mention of Mahomes playing poorly….that’s why KC lost and Cinci won

 

Not for nothing but it was already pointed out that Mahomes was being SACKED and contained!!  Imagine that Cincy PLAYED D.  Something the Bills failed miserably at for that game.

[GunnerBill]

4 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

So he played poorly...because he sucks?  Because the defense stymied him?  What?

 

He sucked in that second half. There is no getting away from it. Yes Cincy did some stuff to mix it up and maybe they got him out of rhythm but he was failing to see open guys, holding the ball way too long, and his footwork completely broke down which was a factor on both picks. 

 

On the play he nearly fumbled the game away he has Kelce with leverage on his defender and a step at the front of the endzone. Why in the world he doesn't throw it I have no idea. That is a throw he has made dozens of times in his career thus far. The tape doesn't lie. He sucked after half time. I think the mistake at the end of the first half might have got into his head personally but who knows?