Ok time to get rid of Mongo

[Greybeard]

13 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

Any of the fellow geezers remember when pizza meant the box of Appian Way opened up, and an interminable amount of time passing before your mother hauled it out of the oven?

        In the 60's I had one every Thursday while watching the Untouchables.  The secret was oregano.  There is an amazing difference with and without oregano.

[HardyBoy]

23 hours ago, Sharky7337 said:

It's been about 15 years since I lived I'm buffalo. My favorite pizza in western NY was always Pontillos. I don't recall ever having bad or amazing pizza living in Buffalo.

 

Rochester I know for a fact has amazing pizza.

 

So I'm gonna say he's bitter cause he's about to be sliced.

 

Actually now I remember getting slices on Elmwood when I was at buff state.

 

And it was good.

 

Ya he's crazy.

 

Now here in Raleigh, there's no good pizza imo

 

I'm in Raleigh too (Garner area)...love it here, but moving from Ft Lauderdale in Sept of 2020, the food is just not on the same level. So many random hole in the wall strip malls with absolutely amazing food down there. I'm holding out full judgment until I've actually had a chance to really try a bunch of places, but I've lived in Rochester, Boston, South Florida and Raleigh. Granted I was just driving around downtown Raleigh today and there are a ton of restaurants I need to try before I give an honest judgment, but no chance it beats South Florida in terms of amazing food per capita.

 

Best Raleigh pizza I've had so far in my opinion is Demos and then Frank's in that order. For what it's worth South Florida didn't have the best pizza either and I agree, Rochester pizza is legit...Pontilos ftw! Acme's on Monroe has amazing pizza, especially during Tuesday dollar beer night (not sure if that's still a thing like it was back in 2006, which is sooo long ago now!).

[Sharky7337]

6 minutes ago, HardyBoy said:

 

I'm in Raleigh too (Garner area)...love it here, but moving from Ft Lauderdale in Sept of 2020, the food is just not on the same level. So many random hole in the wall strip malls with absolutely amazing food down there. I'm holding out full judgment until I've actually had a chance to really try a bunch of places, but I've lived in Rochester, Boston, South Florida and Raleigh. Granted I was just driving around downtown Raleigh today and there are a ton of restaurants I need to try before I give an honest judgment, but no chance it beats South Florida in terms of amazing food per capita.

 

Best Raleigh pizza I've had so far in my opinion is Demos and then Frank's in that order. For what it's worth South Florida didn't have the best pizza either and I agree, Rochester pizza is legit...Pontilos ftw! Acme's on Monroe has amazing pizza, especially during Tuesday dollar beer night (not sure if that's still a thing like it was back in 2006, which is sooo long ago now!).

I used to live off Monroe for a long time and ya acmes was good and the tater tots!

 

I'll have to try those places at work they order rosattis and randys and jets pizza. They're not terrible, but I miss western NY pizza for sure.

 

But I mean i feel like Raleigh is def lacking In the good food department (durham / Cary area) here 

 

Took me forever to even find a half edible Chinese place

 

The savings grace is the garbage plate food truck and restaraunt 

Edited February 5, 2022 by Sharky7337

[dave mcbride]

11 hours ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

David, your knowledge of the two cities in question surpasses mine.   So I'll concede the point about NYC pizza.  

 

My wife has never been to NYC and she's been bugging me to go.   When we do, we want to explore the ethnic restaurants after seeing them on TV with Anthony Bourdain, etc.   But, with your endorsement in mind, we'll hit some pizza places too.  

 

And, yeah, I agree about LA.  The pizza is poor but the Mexican food there is awesome!

If you come, don’t hesitate to ask for recs!

[Coach Tuesday]

22 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

If you come, don’t hesitate to ask for recs!

Low key the best slice in NYC: NY Pizza Suprema next to Penn Station.  Love Scarr’s too.  L&B Spumoni Gardens for upside-down grandma style.  DiFara of course but it’s a bit overrated (they just use the best ingredients so of course it’s good).

[Chandler#81]

Concussion syndrome is a real thing. That’s all I got.

[HOUSE]

This explains a lot

 

Feliciano was born in East Meadow, New York. He is from a tight-knit, big Italian family; his paternal grandparents were both Italian immigrants from Sicily, while his maternal grandparents were Puerto Rican. Jon, his mother and younger brother moved to South Florida in the mid-90s. As a child, Feliciano was more interested in designing and playing video games and basketball than in football.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Feliciano

[dave mcbride]

2 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:

Low key the best slice in NYC: NY Pizza Suprema next to Penn Station.  Love Scarr’s too.  L&B Spumoni Gardens for upside-down grandma style.  DiFara of course but it’s a bit overrated (they just use the best ingredients so of course it’s good).

Di Fara is pretty great (their Sicilian, that is), although I haven’t been in years. The thing is, there are four dedicated pizza places and two Italian restaurants that make their own pizza (as part of a broader menu) that are all within a 3-10 minute walk from my house in Park Slope, and they are all excellent in their own ways. So I pretty much stick to them.  
 

Roberta’s in Williamsburg is the bomb (and my favorite). I actually took a cooking class with the two owners about 8 years ago and can make a pretty fair version of their pie myself. I learned a ton about the importance of ingredients. For instance, for the sauce, you gotta use San Marzano whole tomatoes (no other type is nearly as good) and puree them yourself. They said that all tomato companies basically save the best tomatoes for the whole-tomato cans and relegate the second-rate ones to the puree/crushed tomato cans. I did a taste test afterward, and they were absolutely right. Same thing about using the right flour (00 super-fine mixed with good bread flour) and mozzarella. Thankfully, there is a great Italian store up the block that makes their own incredible mozzarella.

 

Lombardi’s on Spring Street and Grimaldi’s in Dumbo are both fantastic too. Long lines, however. Di Fara has long lines too, but if you get there early on the weekend (10:45 am or so) it’s not too bad. 
 

I haven’t tried the other ones you mention. Sounds like I should!

Edited February 5, 2022 by dave mcbride

[MrEpsYtown]

2 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:

Low key the best slice in NYC: NY Pizza Suprema next to Penn Station.  Love Scarr’s too.  L&B Spumoni Gardens for upside-down grandma style.  DiFara of course but it’s a bit overrated (they just use the best ingredients so of course it’s good).

I am a huge Johnnys Mt. Vernon guy if venturing just north of the Bronx. 

[AlCowlingsTaxiService]

I thought this thread was about Feliciano’s Bills career moving forward 🤣. Speaking to that, his pay to performance ratio is out of whack and though I like him as a backup, his contract is prohibitive.  I don’t give a hoot about his pizza preferences.  For the record, I grew up in Chicago and prefer Chicago style. Geno and Joes is my local fave for authentic NY style. Good local offerings are too numerous to mention. 

[YoloinOhio]

2 hours ago, HOUSE said:

This explains a lot

 

Feliciano was born in East Meadow, New York. He is from a tight-knit, big Italian family; his paternal grandparents were both Italian immigrants from Sicily, while his maternal grandparents were Puerto Rican. Jon, his mother and younger brother moved to South Florida in the mid-90s. As a child, Feliciano was more interested in designing and playing video games and basketball than in football.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Feliciano

FINE i guess he’s qualified to judge pizza 

 

he still sucks and Buffalo pizza is the 🐐

Edited February 5, 2022 by YoloinOhio

[gonzo1105]

He’s probably not here next year anyways 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

On 2/3/2022 at 11:00 PM, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

So I had a good friend in graduate school who worked as a Pizza Hut shift manager while he was in college.  Champaign/Urbana IIRC.  There were several in the area at the time.

 

One time, he had the closing shift one night and the opening shift the next day.

 

At closing, the procedure was they would put oil in the pans for the deep dish pizza and stack them up, ready for the rush.  They would work their way down one stack, then the next, then the next.

 

So.  That night, unbeknownst to him and with no precautions to cover the cookware or to wash it afterwards, the Hut had bug exterminators in.

 

The next day, a leaden-faced customer came in with deep dish pizza that had one slice cut from it and the piece tossed back in the box, and asked to see the manager.  He flipped the pizza over and told my friend to take a look.  There, baked into the crust, were 4 and 20 cockroaches, baked into a pie.

 

Needless to say, my friend was very apologetic, refunded the guy's money, and offered him anything else he wanted - a new pizza, a gift certificate?  The guy didn't want anything.  He was Done with the Hut.

 

Friend went to check the top pan in each stack - every one full of dead cockroaches.

 

 

 

 

Now see what you have gone and done?! 🤨

Topping tonight's Eyemissed It News, restaurant supply houses and pizza chains large and small remain perplexed at the sudden drop off in pizza orders in WNY the last few days.  "We can't understand it" said Bob Cobb, manager of the PizzaBarge chain.  "Usually cold weather boosts sales, but the sudden drop off is a mystery to all of us in the trade.  Even 'two for one' promotions are going ignored."

[Haze_21]

New york style is goat but wny style is solid. For random hole in the wall joints you walk away with much better quality than most cities

[Kaenon]

Picasso's is pretty solid as an all-around.

 

However, mine and wife's current favorite pizza is La Nova's Tomato Basil Roma done as NY Style.  Try it!

[Hapless Bills Fan]

3 hours ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said:

I thought this thread was about Feliciano’s Bills career moving forward 🤣. Speaking to that, his pay to performance ratio is out of whack and though I like him as a backup, his contract is prohibitive.  I don’t give a hoot about his pizza preferences.  For the record, I grew up in Chicago and prefer Chicago style. Geno and Joes is my local fave for authentic NY style. Good local offerings are too numerous to mention. 

 

Feliciano got paid as a starting guard who added value by being able to flip sides and play C.   He lost his starting gig to Boettger and then Bates and he's paid too much to be a backup, especially a 3rd string backup.

 

Boettger earned $2.3M last season but is returning from an Achilles injury.  Not sure what that does for his market.

 

Bates is a UFA can offer Bates a tender if we so choose.  Since he was an UDFA for the Eagles, an "original round" tender is meaningless:

Projected Restricted Free Agent Tenders

Right of 1st Refusal: $2,433,000

Original Draft Round: $2,540,000

2nd Rounder: $3,986,000

1st Rounder: $5,432,000

 

I expect the Bills will try to sign him to a modest 3 year deal, but if he wants to test the market we could offer him a Right of 1st Refusal tender for  projected $2.4M, or a 2nd round tender for projected $3.99M.

 

Feliciano is slated to earn $4.97M this year with $1.5M dead cap, providing $3.47M savings.  This means we could cut Feliciano, offer Bates a 2nd round tender, draft a G or C/G to develop, and it would only cost us $0.52M additional money, and keep "something to build on" intact.

 

It actually wouldn't shock me if Bobby Johnson goes to the Giants, if Beane managed to flip Feliciano to the G-men for a late round pick or lower-on-the roster defensive player who might no longer fit their D if they hire Wink Martindale.

 

 

 

[Coach Tuesday]

21 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said:

I am a huge Johnnys Mt. Vernon guy if venturing just north of the Bronx. 

Johnny’s is 10 minutes from me, that place is special.  Get the white broccoli pie along with a plain.

[Boatdrinks]

On 2/4/2022 at 8:15 PM, hondo in seattle said:

 

David, your knowledge of the two cities in question surpasses mine.   So I'll concede the point about NYC pizza.  

 

My wife has never been to NYC and she's been bugging me to go.   When we do, we want to explore the ethnic restaurants after seeing them on TV with Anthony Bourdain, etc.   But, with your endorsement in mind, we'll hit some pizza places too.  

 

And, yeah, I agree about LA.  The pizza is poor but the Mexican food there is awesome!

Yeah, Anthony Bourdain, damn.. really cool guy and I miss that show.

[Westside]

He’s dead to me!

[jlgarsh]

On 2/3/2022 at 10:30 PM, Doc said:

 

I went to school with the Pontillos.  Never really cared for the pizza.

You're from Fairport too? TKs is the best